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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Deflector scratching (Page 1 of 2)
Posted: 5/10/2009 12:34:35 AM EDT
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I was just viewing the picture thread, and noticed how everyone's deflectors are in perfect condition. Now bear with my noobish-ness but i just bought my first AR-15 two weeks ago and finally got to fire it today, after firing 50 rounds of brass ammunition, there are many brass marking on it, i tried rubbing it off and that didnt help. Are these permanent, or is brass softer then the body's metal, therefore making it possible to rub it off?
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Oh, crap! This topic is usually "noob beating bait" waiting for an internet feeding frenzy. People will be along for the bashing soon. I'll try to refrain as I don't find too much use in bashings any more.
It's a brass deflector. Brass hits it. You did answer your own question to a degree. Brass is soft so it will rub off on the harder surface of the deflector. Use of CLP or a good gun solvent will aid in the removal of the marks. they will come off with solvent and a lot of rubbing. Other folks have had success using pencil erasers to remove the brass marks as well. Some folks take preventative measures to prevent the marks. Some will stick a piece of velcro or electrical tape on the brass deflector when they shoot. Keep in mind too, that most folks take pictures of their builds when they are new, or have been cleaned up. Some folks take the opposite view and think brass marks are a sign that their rifles are not safe queens, and proudly display the wear on the brass deflector. I tried to post this info without any judgement on either side of the arguement because you should be free to decide which camp you belong to and have the tools at your disposal to treat your rifle as you see fit in my oppinion. |
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Oh, crap! This topic is usually "noob beating bait" waiting for an internet feeding frenzy. People will be along for the bashing soon. I'll try to refrain as I don't find too much use in bashings any more. It's a brass deflector. Brass hits it. You did answer your own question to a degree. Brass is soft so it will rub off on the harder surface of the deflector. Use of CLP or a good gun solvent will aid in the removal of the marks. they will come off with solvent and a lot of rubbing. Other folks have had success using pencil erasers to remove the brass marks as well. Some folks take preventative measures to prevent the marks. Some will stick a piece of velcro or electrical tape on the brass deflector when they shoot. Keep in mind too, that most folks take pictures of their builds when they are new, or have been cleaned up. Some folks take the opposite view and think brass marks are a sign that their rifles are not safe queens, and proudly display the wear on the brass deflector. I tried to post this info without any judgement on either side of the arguement because you should be free to decide which camp you belong to and have the tools at your disposal to treat your rifle as you see fit in my oppinion. Very well put. |
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How do you guys remove these marks? I don't. This. I don't see why some people are obsessed with making it look like they never use their rifles. Now, before someone starts on the whole "well, I like to take care of my rifle" thing, I'm not advocating abusing or neglecting the rifle. The truth is that when a rifle is used, brass marks will appear on the deflector. Enjoy shooting the rifle. |
I don't know if you can find black shells instead of brass so that when they hit your deflector you will never know!
Seriously though, there's nothing you can do about it since the brass deflector must do what it does best: deflect brass. I would be worried if I get brass marks on my face. |
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Quoted: I was just viewing the picture thread, and noticed how everyone's deflectors are in perfect condition. Now bear with my noobish-ness but i just bought my first AR-15 two weeks ago and finally got to fire it today, after firing 50 rounds of brass ammunition, there are many brass marking on it, i tried rubbing it off and that didnt help. Are these permanent, or is brass softer then the body's metal, therefore making it possible to rub it off? How do you guys remove these marks? Thats because a lot of people do not actually shoot their rifles, they put $2000 worth of crap on them, then take pictures. Its called priorities. (now there will be multiple posts of those who just got defensive since the truth hurts) |
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I don't know if you can find black shells instead of brass so that when they hit your deflector you will never know!
Seriously though, there's nothing you can do about it since the brass deflector must do what it does best: deflect brass. I would be worried if I get brass marks on my face. That's why I switched to Hornady TAP-screw all that terminal ballistics crap. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I don't know if you can find black shells instead of brass so that when they hit your deflector you will never know!
Seriously though, there's nothing you can do about it since the brass deflector must do what it does best: deflect brass. I would be worried if I get brass marks on my face. That's why I switched to Hornady TAP-screw all that terminal ballistics crap. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Black casings = Ninja bullitz 'Nuff said..... |
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Oh, crap! This topic is usually "noob beating bait" waiting for an internet feeding frenzy. People will be along for the bashing soon. I'll try to refrain as I don't find too much use in bashings any more. It's a brass deflector. Brass hits it. You did answer your own question to a degree. Brass is soft so it will rub off on the harder surface of the deflector. Use of CLP or a good gun solvent will aid in the removal of the marks. they will come off with solvent and a lot of rubbing. Other folks have had success using pencil erasers to remove the brass marks as well. Some folks take preventative measures to prevent the marks. Some will stick a piece of velcro or electrical tape on the brass deflector when they shoot. Keep in mind too, that most folks take pictures of their builds when they are new, or have been cleaned up. Some folks take the opposite view and think brass marks are a sign that their rifles are not safe queens, and proudly display the wear on the brass deflector. I tried to post this info without any judgement on either side of the arguement because you should be free to decide which camp you belong to and have the tools at your disposal to treat your rifle as you see fit in my oppinion. If I remember correctly they do that to keep the brass in good shape for re-loading. |
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Thanks for the replies (well some any ways). I like to take care of my things, and that includes keeping them looking new. If i just spend a couples years saving up on a gun im not going to beat it to hell, if i can help it.
So do some of you guys hit trees and other things with your new cars and then leave the dents and marks to prove that you drive? I mean that is the reason a car has bumpers is it not? |
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Thanks for the replies (well some any ways). I like to take care of my things, and that includes keeping them looking new. If i just spend a couples years saving up on a gun im not going to beat it to hell, if i can help it. So do some of you guys hit trees and other things with your new cars and then leave the dents and marks to prove that you drive? I mean that is the reason a car has bumpers is it not? Negative on that one. Hitting trees with your car just because it has bumpers isn't what said bumpers are designed to do. It's called a brass deflector because it deflects brass... can't do that unless brass hits it. But I do get your point. 
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Seriously, if you have to worry about dings on your deflector, use a strip of electrician's tape.
Then again, when I'm shooting with other guys and they spend their time chicken-chesting and telling me how much they shoot and blah blah blah, I take one look at their pristine deflectors and think, "poser." It's a rifle, not an expensive handbag and pair of pumps. 
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Got some brass marks on my issue rifle in basic. Being the scared shitless A1 trainee that I was, I was mortified to see I had defaced Gummint Property and was terrified that my just-back-from-Nam-and-killling-people DI would roast my ass. I was almighty pleased to see that nitro solvent took it off. Then I broke one of the tabs between the airholes on the handguards....
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Thanks for the replies (well some any ways). I like to take care of my things, and that includes keeping them looking new. If i just spend a couples years saving up on a gun im not going to beat it to hell, if i can help it. So do some of you guys hit trees and other things with your new cars and then leave the dents and marks to prove that you drive? I mean that is the reason a car has bumpers is it not? This is the dumbest analogy I've heard in some time. If you really don't see that there's a difference between willful abuse and normal wear and tear, maybe you should just take the advice of the guy who said to leave the rifle in the safe. |
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Quoted: Thanks for the replies (well some any ways). I like to take care of my things, and that includes keeping them looking new. If i just spend a couples years saving up on a gun im not going to beat it to hell, if i can help it. So do some of you guys hit trees and other things with your new cars and then leave the dents and marks to prove that you drive? I mean that is the reason a car has bumpers is it not? A lot of people have this argument, but to me it isn't the same. A car for many is a way to make them look cool and a status symbol. Not for everyone I agree but a lot see it this way. A rifle isn't or I hope it's not. They are a tool that needs to work because your life might depend on it. So looks are a distant 2nd IMO. |
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Thanks for the replies (well some any ways). I like to take care of my things, and that includes keeping them looking new. If i just spend a couples years saving up on a gun im not going to beat it to hell, if i can help it. So do some of you guys hit trees and other things with your new cars and then leave the dents and marks to prove that you drive? I mean that is the reason a car has bumpers is it not? So you start off with a noob question, get some opinions and end up ridiculing those of us who don't care about brass marks on our AR's brass deflectors? |
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Thanks for the replies (well some any ways). I like to take care of my things, and that includes keeping them looking new. If i just spend a couples years saving up on a gun im not going to beat it to hell, if i can help it. So do some of you guys hit trees and other things with your new cars and then leave the dents and marks to prove that you drive? I mean that is the reason a car has bumpers is it not?  that be funny. I dont know about the other guys here on this site, but I don't have a whole lotta cash (being a poor undergrad student with a family and all) so the things that I get for my rifle are the things that I had to save up for for quite some time, so naturally I want to keep it all looking as new as I can (and yes, I do shoot as often as I can, so my piece is by no means a safe queen) so I see nothing wrong with wanting to protect your investment from even the smallest of scratches, and I am sure that many of you (even if you wont admit it) feel the same way. Personally, I take pistol grip tape, you know, that rubbery stuff that is sprayed in sheets with an adhesive backing- thats the stuff, I just cut a small patch to fit over my deflector and it has kept it looking great even after thousands of rounds down range. Get some skateboard grip tape, it will work just as good. Now you will get wear and tear, its a tool, it'll show its "experience" over time, but just as I want well maintained tools, so I want my rifle to be free as much as possible from PREVENTABLE wear, of which a chewed up deflector is just that- preventable, and I'm goofy enough to want to prevent preventable wear on something I paid alot of money for and saved up for for some time to get. Is it a big deal if it gets brass markings on it? Nah, not at all, but I wouldnt mind putting something there to prevent it, nothin wrong with that either.
And all that garb about "not being cool enough to hang with the real AR posse because your rifle doesn't have authentic "battle damage" is kinda playground-ish don't ya think? It's kinda ridiculous to judge someone on the fact that they dont have brass deflecting marks on their rifle. Kinda elitist/computer closet commando/mall ninja isn't it? Lets just all enjoy the rifles we have, and if someone wants theirs looking newer and preventing easily preventable wear, no biggy- after all...its THEIR rifle. Happy shooting!
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You gotta be shittin me.
http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb201/trixiebud/hudson062.jpg?t=1241964762 I don't know man, for an old school upper like that, you should have more marks on it.
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I simply catch each case as it exits the ejection port. Sure, the burns are a bitch, but at least my rifle doesn't have any yukky brass marks on it. I started wearing a glove, but then the glove started looking a little beat and that just isn't tacticool. Then you need one of these
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Not anything wrong with leaving them there. Not anything wrong with taking the little bit of time to clean it off. Not any different than the 9 billion other things that people add, modify, clean, or otherwise interact with their rifle that isn't 100% related to the basic function of the weapon. |
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Who cares?
If it bothers you, remove it or do something to prevent it. If it doesnt......I couldnt care less about it, it doesnt affect function......then leave it. To me it would be like polishing the face of a hammer after pounding nails cause you dont like the scratches on it. If you want to....fine, its your time and your hammer.....but dont ridicule those that dont give a damn. My rifles look sexy with a little brass wear. 
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| I have only put 100rds through my AR and it already has some brass marks on the deflector, but I was expecting that. I personally don't do any more than just putting some CLP on it after shooting. IME, it hasn't really taken off the brass marks, but I don't feel the need to scrub it extensively and frankly don't care. I consider the CLP an insurance measure, just making sure that the area should be corrosion/element proof much like any part that gets wear on it. |
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Thanks for the replies (well some any ways). I like to take care of my things, and that includes keeping them looking new. If i just spend a couples years saving up on a gun im not going to beat it to hell, if i can help it. So do some of you guys hit trees and other things with your new cars and then leave the dents and marks to prove that you drive? I mean that is the reason a car has bumpers is it not? No but I imagine most guys don't go out of their way to "protect" their tire treads from road wear
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I can't believe you abuse your rifle like that! Get that cleaned off and get that thing back where it belongs, in the safe. |
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Quoted: Thanks for the replies (well some any ways). I like to take care of my things, and that includes keeping them looking new. If i just spend a couples years saving up on a gun im not going to beat it to hell, if i can help it. So do some of you guys hit trees and other things with your new cars and then leave the dents and marks to prove that you drive? I mean that is the reason a car has bumpers is it not? Since we're doing car analogies, cleaning the marks off the deflector is like cleaning out the exhaust with a giant pipe cleaner. In other words: Why bother? FYI I mainly shoot steel-cased stuff so there are no brass marks, per se.
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Funny, I've never had a problem with brass making any marks on my AR15's. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f168/mwrdyna/HomelandDefence2.jpg Doc this is the best way to go imho 
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Thanks for the replies (well some any ways). I like to take care of my things, and that includes keeping them looking new. If i just spend a couples years saving up on a gun im not going to beat it to hell, if i can help it. So do some of you guys hit trees and other things with your new cars and then leave the dents and marks to prove that you drive? I mean that is the reason a car has bumpers is it not? No but I imagine most guys don't go out of their way to "protect" their tire treads from road wear Zing! Getting upset because part of the weapon is working as advertised is not beating it to hell. Maybe a nice, wood stocked bolt action where you can clean the bbl after each shot and remove the spent round by hand is more fitting? |
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No brass marks can also help the resale value of the weapon. Maybe add a few hundred dollars. I see a bunch of chest thumping going on. Is this the zoo?? That is as dumb as a box of rocks. IE?: Hey there is a LT SPR Stealth upper for sale in the EE, guy is asking $1300.00 for it. I would give him $1600 if the brass deflector wasn't marred!
You are right, it is a zoo.
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