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Posted: 5/3/2015 10:16:48 PM EDT
| Do you guys rather free float or have a delta ring with drop in? Do y'all think it matters when going 10.5 anyway?? |
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Free float won't help anything. It barely helps anything in most AR's, let alone pistols. As stated above, save some money not buying all the fad crap and put the money where it counts. Yep - the barrel isn't long enough for barrel harmonics to be an issue with accuracy. The main advantage of most free float handguards is rail options and being able to push the front sight out closer to the end of the barrel to provide a longer sight base. As for cost, inexpensive free float rails can be found. If you pay $100 for a free float handguard you get the handguard and barrel nut. That's all you need. If you buy something like a Magpul handguard, you need to buy the barrel nut, delta ring assembly and an end cap. Savings going that way vs. the $100 free float rail would be around $35-40. One word of caution. There are free float rails on E-bay quite cheap. Those inexpensive ones are made in China. Don't buy a rail that doesn't include a steel barrel nut. Those cheap ones on e-bay have aluminum barrel nuts. |
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It's a CQB gun, resting it on stuff won't make a hill of beans difference from 21 feet to 100m.
I went drop in, used a flat Delta with B5 keymod handguards on a FSB. It's 25.5", no VFG, deer hunting no lights at all are legal. So, what would a $100 free float get me? If I ever want to clamp something one I can, until then I have a handguard that won't suck the heat from my hands on a frosty December morning, won't ring like a bell in dense brush, or cost me half as much as a good optic that can't be mounted on it anyway. Free floats are just an accessory mount - if you got them, ok, otherwise, they are just expensive décor. The B5's cost $34 shipped. I saved myself enough to buy 200 rounds of ammo, or 75 rounds of expensive hunting open tip match. I'm not shooting deer with free floats, I prefer to shoot them with good bullets. |
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Free float won't help anything. It barely helps anything in most AR's, let alone pistols. Free float handguards stay cooler because they only contact the barrel via the barrel nut. The barrel also stays cooler because most free float handguards have better ventilation than standard handguards. Most AR pistols are accurate enough to see a benefit to free floating. You may not see the difference running CQB engagement drills at 25 yards, but at 100 yards, it can make the difference between a 1" group and a 3-4" group. You also have more options for sights with a free float handguard. You're pretty much limited to the standard triangular "F" front sight assembly with standard handguards. With a free float, you can mount any front sight you want, or omit it completely if you are using a scope and don't want the front sight assembly to block the view of the scope. Also, there is nothing wrong with aluminum barrel nuts, as long as the aluminum is a decent alloy. The front upper receiver extension the nut threads on is aluminum, and that's going to break before the barrel nut, even if the nut is also aluminum. The barrel nut is not a moving part, so as long as you can torque and time the nut without stripping it, it's fine. Also, note that Yankee Hill and many other high quality American handguard manufacturers use aluminum barrel nuts, not just the Chinese. |
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I don't buy the noticeable accuracy bit. Not at all.
Handguards staying cooler... they make a better heat sink than a lone barrel, and they won't heat up much more with one vs two points contacting the barrel. If your barrel and handguards are that hot, either method will be that hot. I canb't remember if the KAC RAS has heat shields in there. I seem to recall they do, but haven't looked in a long time. I even have an LMT MRP, and I still don't believe free floating makes nearly as big of a deal is people like to claim. Lest we forget, there are marines and soldiers accurately engaging out 300m+ with rack grade weapons every day. As for building... I agree easier to FF. I'd buy an ALG handguard and not look back. But I won't build my own anymore either. |
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I don't buy the noticeable accuracy bit. Not at all. Handguards staying cooler... they make a better heat sink than a lone barrel, and they won't heat up much more with one vs two points contacting the barrel. If your barrel and handguards are that hot, either method will be that hot. I canb't remember if the KAC RAS has heat shields in there. I seem to recall they do, but haven't looked in a long time. I even have an LMT MRP, and I still don't believe free floating makes nearly as big of a deal is people like to claim. Lest we forget, there are marines and soldiers accurately engaging out 300m+ with rack grade weapons every day. As for building... I agree easier to FF. I'd buy an ALG handguard and not look back. But I won't build my own anymore either. agree I haven't noticed any difference true range day out to 500 yds m16a2 non ff still hit target fine Op if you like the looks of a ff go that route |
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