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Posted: 12/25/2004 7:04:00 AM EDT
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Last night I was sitting with a friend of mine named Samual Adams, He said to me that i worked hard all year long and now it's time to reward myself, so I did. I wrote down on several pieces of paper 7 different items all which under $1000.00 placed choices in a bowl. 1. EOTech HOLOgraphic Weapon Sight 552 , Night Vision compatible AA Battery. 2. ACOG scope 3. Gunsafe 4. AR Carbine (complete) 5. AR lower 6. AR upper 7. Another FiveSeven US Gov. model The winner, #1, I ordered it at 12:00 am exacly. Can't wait to get it.  Will I see the front sight post when mounted on top rail? Does anyone have pictures of the EOTech 551/552 mounted on M4gery please? |
Good choice, next month you should draw from the same bowl again until all the entries have been picked and bought 
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That is a pretty neat idea about putting the items in a bowl like that. As for the front sight: I agonized for MONTHS about this question before I got my EoTech, and was already considering what flip up front sight I was going to replace my fixed front with. I was totally convinced I needed the front sight out of the way to effectively use the EoTech. Then I got the sight. The very first time I took the sight to the range I realized how wrong my thinking was. To use an EoTech you aren't focussing on the reticle, the front sight, or ANYTHING in the vicinity of the carbine itself. You focus on the target, and the carbine, including the front sight just "un-focusses" from the target view. It is REALLY hard to describe this effect until you see it for yourself. I barely even notice my carbine while shooting unless I actively refocus my eyes on it. Just go shoot the thing when you get it, and don't worry about the front sight. Trust me. P.S. Good sight choice. 
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( To use an EoTech you aren't focussing on the reticle, the front sight, or ANYTHING in the vicinity of the carbine itself. You focus on the target, and the carbine, including the front sight just "un-focusses" from the target view. ) You are absolutely right. Here I am searching online for a flip-up front sight. I noticed that your eotech is forward of the flattop. Is that something you added or was that the way the picture is taken? |
No, the front sight post shouldn't cause any problems.  16" CMMG barrel mated to a Bushmaster upper. Vortex flash hider, Eotech 552 (made in 2001, one of the original ones), Tango Down VG, Tango Down pistol grip, and soon I'll have a Magpul stock on the gun as well. themao  Edited to add: LaRue 7.0 handguard which free floats the barrel |
Not meant as a hijack. Then why does everyone seem to push the LaRue Eotech mount? I can't decide between an Aimpoint or an Eotech. I know, the question of the century! I always thought the FSB would obscure the sight picture somewhat. If the FSB does not get in the way, than I'll have to think more seriously about the Eotech. |
| Definitely let us know, I'm looking at my AR with the carry-handle off and all i see is the Front site is damn smack in view when I get the EOTECH mounted on the A3 receiver rail. It may require some disipline and training to overcome the view. The more I read at the EOTECH website the more I can't wait to get the HWS 552. Man I can't wait....... |
The EoTech's integral mount is in the dead center of the armored hood. That is the only place it clamps on the rail; the battery compartment just hangs in the air. Whether it is over the reciever or the handguards, it does not contact the rail. All I did was place the mount's crossbar in the second to last rail slot in the reciever. I actually prefer it a little bit back from there, but the day I was taking these pics, I was still experimenting. My carbine looks NOTHING like this now. I don't even have that upper reciever anymore. I could have actually mounted the EoTech one rail slot farther forward if I had wanted to. I actually PREFER it mounted a couple of rail slots back from there, but this is entirely a personal perspective thing. Some people mount it as far BACK as possible. One of the odd things about the EoTech is that the farther the optic is from your eye, the larger the reticle appears. It does not actually change size, it ust takes up a greater percentage of the glass, so it looks larger. Better pic: 
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When I first started shootingwith the EoTech, I shifted my head slightly up on the cheek weld so the reticle is hanging just above the front sight post. That is one of the wonderful things about "parallax-free" after all. The large window of the sight allows you to shift the reticle around your field of view as you see fit, but even if you continue to look straight through your rear sight you will barely even see it with practice. As for the LaRue ECOS-C mount, I want one. But I only want it: a, for the quick-release feature; and b, because I am going to snap up the first EoTech magnifier I can get my hands on. I could personally care less about raising to lower 1/3 co-witness. That makes it worth it to ME. I cannot imagine shooting the carbine without the EoTech. Period. I have tried the Aimpoint and I cannot make it work as fast or as precisely as I can the EoTech. I will however be the first to admit I have not shot with an Aimpoint as I have with an EoTech. If I had shot with the Aimpoint first, I would probably be as die-hard about it as some other people here are. |
SF groups/SWAT are wanting the irons in the lower 1/3 of optics now. Because of these requests you will continue to see Aimpoint and EOTech mounts raise them so the irons are in the lower 1/3. Remember that your back up iron sights are just that "back up." So you want them to obscure as LITTLE of reticle as possible. With optics up a a little bit higher it also increases your FOV as your head isn't as low. Another thing the LT EOTech mount does for you is give you a QD 100% repeat zero capability. C4 www.gandrtactical.com |
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Well, I have to disagree with some of the folks here, just personal preference. I have a fixed front sight and a flip up GGG rear. I find that with the EOTech the front sight DOES effect my line of sight. Say you are focasing on a target that is smaller than your front sight and the target moves where your front sight post is covering it, yes I know you can just readjust you rifle and /or cheek weld but it's one more thing you have to do. I have another thread going about a good flip up front sight/gas block but not too many replies for anything sound. A flip up front should solve any problems. Note; if you have or are thinking about night vision a flip up is not a bad idea as a fixed front will make a large black spot in the weapon mounted NV. 
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Yes, that is a good set up. But, you'll still see the front sight if it's a standard fixed sight. I've had no probs with the GGG rear sight. I have my EOTech on a flat top mount (no larue mount) and the GGG does not effect my line of sight. GGG is great quality stuff too. I'm prob going to go with their gas block/flip up front sight. A flip up is the only way I know to avoid front sight in your view.
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From pictures I would assume it would but I have no actual experience with one. I personally like fixed fs and buis less to go wrong IMHO I guess it would be a personal prefrence thing |
I used to think that the front sight would be problematic. As it turns out, though, parallax is essentially a non-issue for all but the extremes of the sighting plane. My typical sighting picture is this: This lets me keep my CCH handy, and gives me a full, unobstructed reticle at the same time. |
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I just picked up a LaRue EOTech mount from Grant because when I went to the LaRue fixed BUIS, the REAR sight was in the way. It wasn't an issue when I ran an ARMS #40, because the ARMS stayed down until I needed it. Well, with the LaRue, I just wanted to move my head slightly (to nose to charging handle) when I go to irons, without having to flip anything up. With the LaRue BUIS on the receiver, I had to put the EOTech all the way out on the rail so I could see enough of the reticle without the rear sight in the way. To sum up, the front sight was never an issue for me. |
It's slightly above the EOTech window center. I'm just taking advantage of the mostly parallax-free eotech optics. |
Well, it is an accurate rendition. The EOTech reticle "floats" within the window, but it continues to indicate shot direction pretty much anywhere you situate it. While I also get a sight picture like txinvestigator's pictures, I prefer to keep my head *slightly* elevated so that my reticle is unobstructed by the rear peep and front post. If the need arises, I simply dip my head a bit, and my reticle is exactly in line with the irons. In short, if you took txinvestigator's setup as shown (mounted on rxvr), and raised your head slightly, you'd get the same view. |
| What is the EOTech sitting on? This is my situation>> My rear sight is the GG&G MAD BUIS, the EOTech 552 is next in line going to be mounted on the A3 receiver then I'm going to install the PRI front flip up sight, do you believe the EOTech is going to need a mount under it to acheive the picture sight like txinvestigator? I mean wouldn't that be the perfect way to have the EOTech sight setup? |
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It looks like he mounted it just on the flattop. Great pics by the way, I would stick with a stationary front sight, it doesn't seem to get in the way at all. I'm ordering a 512 Eotech soon, and am only planning on a GGG Flip rear sight, and leaving the standard stationary front sight on my RRA. Nikkels |
Ok, now I'm confused. I was lead to believe that you couldn't mount an EOTech directly on the receiver and cowitness. What am I not seeing here? This looks fine to me. It's not all that busy and doesn't look all that much different than my cowitnessed Aimpoint. Help a brother out here???? 
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well incase you want to know then... Bushmaster superlite 16inch. ARMS SIR #50 ARMS 40 ACE M4 SOCOM stock eotech 551 Surefire M961SU06 Spectar MOUT sling hogue grip and uh 30 round mag 
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