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10/7/2008 2:21:59 AM EDT
About what distance could you accurately shoot an ar with an standard non-magnified eo-tech?

-Thanks
10/7/2008 3:10:40 AM EDT
[#1]
With proper "hold-over" practice one can accurately get hits w/ the EOTech out to 600 yards using the M4 platform.

Zeroed using the standard IBZ Santose 50 yard method your bullet is 1.5" high at 100 yards, dead-on at the 200 yard mark and around 2" low at 300 yards, (depending on bbl length and bullet weight being utilized).

mike
10/7/2008 4:49:13 AM EDT
[#2]
I just used mine last week shooting to 300 yards with not problem.  I was pinging a 1/2" thick steel plate out there like no tomorrow.  The plate is 12"x 12".

BTW this was with a 11.5" SBR.  

The EOTech is a great red dot and fun to use.  I've only used it further once and that was 500 yards.  I did OK with it but had to remember how far the bullet would drop (firing XM193 or Priv, can't remember) and then gauge that against where I aimed.  It took a few rounds but I hit the steel.

I've shot irons out to 600 yards before and that was fun (and challenging).  No military experience for me so I had never done that before.

10/7/2008 8:44:36 AM EDT
[#3]
$300 more and ill let ya know cant FKing wait!
10/7/2008 9:11:41 AM EDT
[#4]
I have shot 350-400 yards (without the 3x magnifier) with this rifle, with the magnifier I have shot up to 600 yards

10/7/2008 9:49:00 AM EDT
[#5]
Time you buy the EOTech and a magnifier, you almost have the money invested that you could just get and ACOG.
10/7/2008 9:58:48 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Time you buy the EOTech and a magnifier, you almost have the money invested that you could just get and ACOG.


Which is why I did eventually buy an ACOG (TA31M4RCO).

I also found out I'm pretty good with BAC up close.  No, not EO/Aimpoint fast but realistically it works for me.  

And the ACOG glass is very good.  Another great scope recommendation.  I've used an ACOG out to 600 meters and hit the targets without a whole lotta practice.
10/7/2008 12:12:11 PM EDT
[#7]
I love my EOTech. I wish it would have been my first upgrade. I was scared to spend the bucks at first and spent $150 on BS. After you get the EOTech save up and get a magnifier, it's a great setup. I'm good with just the EOTech up to about 300yds then the magnifier comes in handy up to 600+.





SHOOTIN MY AR
10/7/2008 12:51:28 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
Time you buy the EOTech and a magnifier, you almost have the money invested that you could just get and ACOG.


Right but you cant get an ACOG/mini dot set up for that price.  TA01NSN-DOC's run around $1500 and more.  With the EOTech/3x combo you get 1x and 3x for a much cheaper price.  And the 3x is absolutely wonderful if you have a Larue pivot mount (which is what I run )
10/7/2008 1:19:04 PM EDT
[#9]
I have 2 Eotech's and an Aimpoint, I just don't see how the magnifier for each can cost so DAMN MUCH!...Previous post is correct..by the time you purchase optic and magnifier you could have gotten an ACOG!...Not to say I haven't been tempted, but I just don't see where they are worth so much$$!
10/7/2008 1:25:01 PM EDT
[#10]
bestiller, is that Prince in your avatar?
10/7/2008 2:31:42 PM EDT
[#11]
If your shooting 200Yds + you'll probly be better suited with ACOG. If your shooting close range with the occasional distance shot you'd better stick with the eotec.  
10/7/2008 3:01:18 PM EDT
[#12]
200 -300 is fine with a 50 yard zero  a little hold and you can ring a plate a 400, use some 77 grain bullets and  500 is not out of the question
10/7/2008 3:21:17 PM EDT
[#13]
I keep mine zero'd at 50yds.. 200yds is basically dead on.. Shots out to 300yds shouldn't be a problem for anyone.
At 200yds.. a 12x12 target is basically covered up by the center dot and the red haze (happens if you are shooting in bright daylight).. Any targets smaller than that and you flat out will not be able to see what you are aiming at and your groups will be approximate, not necessarily accurate unless you're shooting off a bench.

It will basically be a crap-shoot because your reference point will be so different holding on or above the target. I believe EOTech is more of a under 200yds.. first on target, rapid acquisition sight than anything else.

With irons you can at least cut the target in half..

If you are wanting optics that will work well at 200yds and beyond.. eotech is not the answer IMO. You would be better off mounting a $50 tasco scope for any sort of groups.
10/7/2008 4:13:38 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
I have 2 Eotech's and an Aimpoint, I just don't see how the magnifier for each can cost so DAMN MUCH!...Previous post is correct..by the time you purchase optic and magnifier you could have gotten an ACOG!...Not to say I haven't been tempted, but I just don't see where they are worth so much$$!


That's what i'm screaming. It has no adjustment that i'm aware of, Does not have to hold a zero, only has 3 to 4 magnification, and just sits there. And yes......... I want one.

Can anybody tell me why the Leupold CQ/T gets no recognition. Seems to be ideal. Have played with one in the fun shop but never shot with one.
10/7/2008 4:25:12 PM EDT
[#15]
the CQ/T looks pretty cool, i like the variable power option, seems to be a multipurpose item.
10/7/2008 4:38:17 PM EDT
[#16]
Peppsi490


About what distance could you accurately shoot an ar with an standard non-magnified eo-tech?


Out to the same Maximum effective range that you can with the iron sights...

There Optics designed for close  quarter combat... not bench rest shooting.
10/7/2008 9:40:38 PM EDT
[#17]
ya im not really looking to super long distance shoot a 16 inch carbine anyway but would like to shoot to about 200 yards or so...think the eotech or an aimpoint would be a good fit.

as far as 100 yard shots go, what kind of groups are you guys getting at 100 yards with an eo-tech/aimpoint?  

also thanks for all the feedback and fast replies... I am starting to really like arfcom
10/8/2008 3:14:51 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
as far as 100 yard shots go, what kind of groups are you guys getting at 100 yards with an eo-tech/aimpoint?  



From a solid benchrested position and taking my time:

On rifle w/ the EOTech; my groups hover around the 1-1.5", sometimes smaller sometimes larger (note: this is w/ dot as faint as I can make it and still see it)

With my 4 MOA, older ML2 & M2 sighted rifles; my groups hover around 2-2.5" (see note above)

mike
10/8/2008 4:06:52 AM EDT
[#19]
Group with EOTech.

10/8/2008 4:22:54 AM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Group with EOTech.


Might be more benefical to folks IF we knew what range this group was shot at.......

mike
10/8/2008 6:32:01 AM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
Time you buy the EOTech and a magnifier, you almost have the money invested that you could just get and ACOG.


I agree, of your shooting unmangnified...EOTech = great.  Reasonalbe price vs. performance.  Magnified...may as well and get the HUGE investment out of the way and buy you an ACOG.
10/8/2008 6:44:07 AM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Group with EOTech.


Might be more benefical to folks IF we knew what range this group was shot at.......

mike


Oh, no problem.  That was 50 yards with three 10 round groups.

Now Pull that out to 100 and make it a little larger.  

I'll have to find the 100 yard target that goes along with it.  It's not in my Photobucket account and is probably on my home computer.

Keep the dot in the same place and use good ammo.  Ammo was Black Hills 55 grain soft point.
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