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1/20/2009 12:06:40 PM EDT
Anyone care to share their experience with one, or point me to a thread about them?  Thanx, Ed
1/21/2009 10:26:47 AM EDT
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http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=124&t=363637
1/21/2009 10:54:56 AM EDT
[#2]
For that price i have a real tough time getting past the ARMS lever
1/21/2009 10:59:42 AM EDT
[#3]
So what is wrong with the ARMS mounts?  A few years ago they were considered to be the best.
1/22/2009 12:59:46 PM EDT
[#4]
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So what is wrong with the ARMS mounts?  A few years ago they were considered to be the best.

You are kidding right?

1/22/2009 1:06:18 PM EDT
[#5]
I searched a few threads, but can someone please point me to an area to read about arms levers?
1/22/2009 1:12:21 PM EDT
[#6]
Never mind, someone pointed me to it in a thread I started specifically about the levers.  Thanx, Ed
1/22/2009 2:06:44 PM EDT
[#7]
You can't get over the mounts?  I can't get over the price, period.  I'll have to wait 10 years or so for someone to make a knock-off.  Unless one of my deep-pocketed brethren would care to make a donation...

Hintity-hint-hint.
1/22/2009 3:17:22 PM EDT
[#8]
The ELCAN Specter DRs are outstanding optics.  In the first run I had one guy have a problem with the ARMS mount and it was do to the Upper was not to MIL SPEC.  ELCAN Now hand fits each unit with the ARMS the mount.  So fair I have not even had one person complain about the ARMS mount not holding 0.

Mike @ CSGW
www.csgunworks.com
[email protected]

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1/22/2009 3:29:21 PM EDT
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I have one of the first run models and am completely happy with it. Illuminated dot OR target reticle, 1 or 4x, with bdc, best of everything.
1/26/2009 10:42:33 AM EDT
[#10]
originally posted by privvtpile   You are kidding right?


No I'm not, what is wrong with them?
1/27/2009 2:01:47 PM EDT
[#11]
Due to the design, the ARMS throw lever mount is less than ideal.  A few years back it was cool, because there weren't too many options for a QR, RTZ mount.  Now there are much better mounts available.

One of the main issues is that the ARMS mount is not really adjustable, which means that either it fits or it doesn't (as noted above with a non-milspec rail), and there isn't a lot of tolerance there.  Also, over time the mount could eventually get loose, and there isn't a good way to tighten it.
1/28/2009 2:41:51 AM EDT
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Quoted:
Due to the design, the ARMS throw lever mount is less than ideal.  A few years back it was cool, because there weren't too many options for a QR, RTZ mount.  Now there are much better mounts available.

One of the main issues is that the ARMS mount is not really adjustable, which means that either it fits or it doesn't (as noted above with a non-milspec rail), and there isn't a lot of tolerance there.  Also, over time the mount could eventually get loose, and there isn't a good way to tighten it.


ARMS now makes adjustable levers so you have to find something else to not like.
1/28/2009 4:44:59 AM EDT
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Quoted:

ARMS now makes adjustable levers so you have to find something else to not like.


When did Elcan start using the new levers on the DR?
1/28/2009 5:01:52 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Due to the design, the ARMS throw lever mount is less than ideal.  A few years back it was cool, because there weren't too many options for a QR, RTZ mount.  Now there are much better mounts available.

One of the main issues is that the ARMS mount is not really adjustable, which means that either it fits or it doesn't (as noted above with a non-milspec rail), and there isn't a lot of tolerance there.  Also, over time the mount could eventually get loose, and there isn't a good way to tighten it.


ARMS now makes adjustable levers so you have to find something else to not like.


Yep, here are some pics at link below.

http://m4carbine.net/showthread.php?s=822b8d11a715a4cda5da482bab69863e&t=25063


1/28/2009 3:36:18 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Quoted:

ARMS now makes adjustable levers so you have to find something else to not like.


When did Elcan start using the new levers on the DR?


The ELCAN Specter DR has always used the ARMS mounts. Unless there was a prototype I do not know about.  I had one of the first prototypes and it had the ARMS mounts to it.

Mike @ CSGW
www.csgunworks.com
[email protected]

Here’s some testimonials about CS GunWorks
FEEDBACK about CSGUNWORKS on AR15.com
FEEDBACK about CSGUNWORKS on Snipersparadise
FEEDBACK about CSGUNWORKS on the HIDE
1/28/2009 3:45:19 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

ARMS now makes adjustable levers so you have to find something else to not like.


When did Elcan start using the new levers on the DR?


The ELCAN Specter DR has always used the ARMS mounts. Unless there was a prototype I do not know about.  I had one of the first prototypes and it had the ARMS mounts to it.



Sorry I wasn't clear.  All the photos I've seen of the DR show the non-adjustable ARMS mounts, which are a non-starter for me.  Has Elcan already switched to the new adjustable ARMS mounts yet?  Any idea when they will be making the switch?  I'm really interested in this sight, but the non-adjustable ARMS mounts are a non-starter for me, as I've had fitment issues with my ARMS #19 mount.
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