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6/7/2016 10:05:01 PM EDT
Has anyone used this product? It looks interesting.

https://www.rainierarms.com/elftmann-tactical-push-button-ambi-speed-safety-pre-order-ship-nov-10-13

6/7/2016 10:16:06 PM EDT
[#1]
Watched a couple Youtube reviews, it gets good marks. Common sentiment is that it's great for a range gun or competition gun, but not for a fighting gun due to the ease at which the safety comes off, making the gun ready to fire.
6/7/2016 10:30:42 PM EDT
[#2]
Terrible.

With a non PG gun, all good, but a flick og the thumb is more natural to me with a PG.

Maybe this would be good on the SCR.
6/7/2016 10:42:15 PM EDT
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You'd have a hard time getting it to fit.  

The SCR already has a push button safety.
6/8/2016 1:01:48 AM EDT
[#4]
I'll be interested in trying one when they come out with a "lefty" version (or actually, more like a "standard", since EVERY SINGLE crossbolt safety is "push in from right to fire", as is industry standard). I'm not interested in the "backwards version" they offer currently.
I understand they did it that way because people are used to using their thumb anyway with AR's, but if someone is going to change and train differently (to use the crossbolt), they may as well train with an industry standard of "trigger finger pushes safety to fire".
Just my .02 (but I have a hunch I'm not alone )
6/8/2016 12:21:06 PM EDT
[#5]
I installed one.
A friend asked me to install it and a Hipertouch trigger in a lower for him.
Having no experience with either product I scratched my head for an hour trying to figure out why the installed trigger felt as bad as it did.
It took some close examination to find that the push safety and Hipertouch trigger don't play well together.
I installed a standard safety selector and the trigger worked as advertised.

I'll stick with my Geissele SSAs after playing with the Hipertouch.

He gave me the push safety and I installed it in a lower. It works fine (although it's a bit on the light side), but I have too much muscle memory invested in the standard AR selector to take it seriously.

Joe
6/8/2016 12:51:57 PM EDT
[#6]
Would like to see a wrong-handed,,,,,,er.......left handed version too.
6/8/2016 4:30:57 PM EDT
[#7]
I see no advantage to this.  Especially since I use ambi short-throw selectors in all my rifles.
6/8/2016 5:08:28 PM EDT
[#8]
I have one for my DPMS 308. I like it, although it is backwards from every cross bolt safety out there. It has been brought up that when using AR's you are more familiar with using your thumb to engage and release the safety. This allows you to keep your finger on the trigger, which I think is not ideal. It is much quieter than the standard throw safety.
6/8/2016 7:15:47 PM EDT
[#9]
why?
6/8/2016 7:16:18 PM EDT
[#10]
why?
6/8/2016 9:11:14 PM EDT
[#11]
No thanks.  Solution looking for a problem.
6/8/2016 9:19:01 PM EDT
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In most cases, at least.
6/8/2016 9:37:50 PM EDT
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In most cases, at least.

It is a novelty for now and just another way to customize the most customizable rifle in history. I do like mine since I grew up using nothing but cross bolt safeties, even though it is backwards. When I get the time, I will be modifying mine to be "correct". I did hear a rumor that the company will be offering a reversible version soon.
6/9/2016 3:02:35 AM EDT
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It is a novelty for now and just another way to customize the most customizable rifle in history. I do like mine since I grew up using nothing but cross bolt safeties, even though it is backwards. When I get the time, I will be modifying mine to be "correct". I did hear a rumor that the company will be offering a reversible version soon.
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In most cases, at least.

It is a novelty for now and just another way to customize the most customizable rifle in history. I do like mine since I grew up using nothing but cross bolt safeties, even though it is backwards. When I get the time, I will be modifying mine to be "correct". I did hear a rumor that the company will be offering a reversible version soon.

That was probably from me. I emailed them LONG ago and asked about doing a "industry standard" version (call it left hand if you must), and they replied "we have engineer working on it"... but it never happened.
I have zero interest in this until the do it RIGHT (industry standard). RIGHT push in to fire. That's how EVERY firearm  crossbolt works (until this).
6/9/2016 8:38:48 AM EDT
[#15]
What does that accomplish over the standard safety lever? To me, the safety is one function that makes the AR as ergonimically friendly as it is. It can quickly and easily be flipped on and off with your thumb, while your trgger finger is free and ready to shoot if need be. Why take that simple function away?
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