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9/30/2008 4:29:25 AM EDT
Not sure where to put this tidbit.....so, mods, do your thing.
Check out this article from Military.com.
http://www.military.com/news/article/army-taps-industry-for-m4-replacement.html?col=1186032325324

9/30/2008 4:45:15 AM EDT
[#1]
The end? I've been here since the begining and aint goin' nowhere buddy.
9/30/2008 4:49:13 AM EDT
[#2]
Ain't gonna happen anytime soon.
9/30/2008 5:02:21 AM EDT
[#3]

Quoted:
Not sure where to put this tidbit.....so, mods, do your thing.
Check out this article from Military.com.
http://www.military.com/news/article/army-taps-industry-for-m4-replacement.html?col=1186032325324



Hello, and welcome to last week.
9/30/2008 5:30:21 AM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
Ain't gonna happen anytime soon.


Agreed.
9/30/2008 6:20:17 AM EDT
[#5]
They've got WAY to much $$$ in this system to dump it.
9/30/2008 6:50:35 AM EDT
[#6]
I do like how they called the 7.62 "old school" in that article.
9/30/2008 7:21:17 AM EDT
[#7]
It`s not the end of mine, it`s brand new.
9/30/2008 7:39:42 AM EDT
[#8]
Not in my life time or anyone elses.
9/30/2008 7:48:16 AM EDT
[#9]
Hot

Even if the army replaces them - its gonna take a while to replace every one.  And police/swat and civilians will still use them for many years.  It will be interesting to see what happens though.
9/30/2008 8:20:09 AM EDT
[#10]
If they find a replacement I think they will still keep the M4/M16 platform.  They would probably switch the caliber and    
DI system to a piston system if anything.   But then again, the Magpul Masada looks promising too, anyone heard of any down sides to the Masada?
9/30/2008 9:01:55 AM EDT
[#11]
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=395832

Just one of the dupe threads...
9/30/2008 9:24:22 AM EDT
[#12]
Even if they did adopt something else, it really wouldn't matter. The general public will still be able to buy lower and upper receivers, barrels, and everything else to build their own AR-15's. It's not like everyone in the industry will stop producing AR parts.
9/30/2008 9:30:39 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
They've got WAY to much $$$ in this system to dump it.


+1
9/30/2008 10:33:46 AM EDT
[#14]
This will be like the 1911.  The military dumped it what, 25 years ago?  And today you can get more styles of 1911 than ever before.  
9/30/2008 11:00:07 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
The end? I've been here since the begining and aint goin' nowhere buddy.


lmao...good call!
9/30/2008 11:13:05 AM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
If they find a replacement I think they will still keep the M4/M16 platform.  They would probably switch the caliber and    
DI system to a piston system if anything.   But then again, the Magpul Masada looks promising too, anyone heard of any down sides to the Masada?


If it's a downside it's  because they don't have a long background history in Design and Engineering of firearms. Companies like FN and H&K along with Colt and many others do have the long historys.

But Magpul does have a really new and quality product so I hope they get a shot at it.
9/30/2008 11:41:06 AM EDT
[#17]
The M4 isn't going anywhere....Inspite of all the propaganda to get the DoD's contract away from Colt.
9/30/2008 12:24:23 PM EDT
[#18]
I meant the end as a Military staple, only. Missed the origional posts.....my apologies.
9/30/2008 12:29:45 PM EDT
[#19]
It will take YEARS.
9/30/2008 1:00:44 PM EDT
[#20]
M-16/M-4 platform is still an open viable platform for improvement to keep up with the demands of the armed forces and the environments they are in.  New blocks of M-4's can come out with piston driven systems replacing direct impingement systems that will allow the guns to run cleaner and cooler and chamber the M-4's in either the 6.5 or 6.8mm for enhanced knockdown power.  I don't see the design going away anytime soon or in the near future.
9/30/2008 1:03:56 PM EDT
[#21]
last paragraph says it all...

"If that does happen, Soldiers -- and potentially their counterparts in the other services -- won't likely see their new carbines until 2012, after all the testing and evaluation is done. The Army currently has a requirement for 450,000 M4s, though that number could climb if the service decides to replace all M-16s with the smaller M4, Audette said."

It will definately leave one day. but not anyday sooon...
9/30/2008 1:38:12 PM EDT
[#22]
OK here is the nitty gritty,

We hear about this every few years....the m-16 is going away and will be replaced here is why.....

A Full Colonel is put in charge of weapon development and procurment.  he has about 2 or 3 years in that position before he is moved onto something else.  His job is to find a replacemtn for the current weapons sytem, so he finds the replacemnt of the year and begins to propose the replacment.  He has no intention of replacing the system it is his job, he needs the good evaluation report, showing he did propse replacment programs, so he can get promoted.  

So every 2 or 3 years we get a new program some more ambitiuos than others.

OWIC
XM-8
H&K-416

just to name the last 3

Then add in the lobbying by other gunmakers trying to get the world's biggest contract and you will understand why we keep hearing this.
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