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4/29/2003 8:25:21 PM EDT
I just bought an ML2 to mount on my AR.  The problem is that on anything other than the lowest settings...I see a red star....not a dot.  I can turn the scope and the image remains the same.  I checked out a couple of other red dots at a gunshop and experience the same thing!!  Does anyone else have this problem?? I haven't tried it at the range yet so I don't know how this will affect my shooting.  I appreciate any thoughts on the matter.

Randy
4/29/2003 9:33:03 PM EDT
[#1]
I'm nearsighted with astigmatism.  I normally wear toric contact lenses, but of course have glasses too.

Depending on how my eyes and contacts are doing, when I look through my M2's I can see a crisp dot, to double, to four stars with the aiming point being the center.

I know it's NOT my Aimpoint, since it will change as I blink, or I can wear my glasses and then the dot is crisp and clear.

Another guy I work with sees the same star-effect, and "yes", his eyes are jacked-up too.


Chris
4/30/2003 2:01:36 PM EDT
[#2]
Ditto. Near sighted and astigmatism.
The brighter the dot, the worse the star effect.
4/30/2003 2:42:19 PM EDT
[#3]
On my Eotech, I find that if I leave it on for 5-10 minutes before I shoot, the "grainy" appearance goes away. You may want to try that with your red dot. I don't know if it's projected via a laser like the holographic Eotechs or a diode. Lasers in general take a while to get up to speed in terms of intensity and consistency. The laser I worked with last summer took 5-10 minutes to warm up to produce a consistant beam inside the housing filled with argon gas. I'm not sure if the Eotech works in the same manner, but holograms (the reticle) are projected via laser light.

Edited to add: I'm -8 diopters in both eyes with astigmatism. I've never seen "stars" when I've ever looked into a red dot sight, but my Eotech can look really grainy or coarse if my eyes are tired with my contacts in.
4/30/2003 3:00:22 PM EDT
[#4]
Thanks for the responses.  I actually found some information on Aimpoints website.  This problem is not uncommon.  They say it has to do with the size of the dot and the users eyes.  I will have to see if I can shoot with it.  May have to sell or trade it for some other kind of optic.  

Randy
5/1/2003 2:43:19 PM EDT
[#5]
akusp, I have the same problem, but it's no where near as bad outside in bright light than inside.  BTW, the brightest dot I've ever seen is on a Tasco ProPoint PD2 or some model like that.  A guy had it at my range, along with his Acog, Elcan, and every other damn thing.  Even though that dot got really bright, it never turned into a star...I was really impressed with that sight for the money...I think they're around $135 or so.  
5/1/2003 5:08:54 PM EDT
[#6]
How far away is the dot?

They're best when at least a foot forward from the eye.  Mine is on a rail just behind the front sitht.

Faster target acquisition and transisition mounted like this.

-- Chuck
5/1/2003 11:42:13 PM EDT
[#7]
AKUSP,

Are you using toric lenses to correct your astigmatism?  If not get some, it will improve your shooting in all categories with all weapons.  I did not realise I had the problem till I was informed here and now I see so much better its rediculous.
5/2/2003 4:52:31 AM EDT
[#8]
Make sure to try it outside in the daylight - often the dot will look different than it does indoors.
5/2/2003 3:05:03 PM EDT
[#9]
Thanks again for the info.  I followed Eclipse's advice and took it outside.  The dot was as it should be!  Still a little fuzzy on the strongest settings but I don't think it will be a problem.

Randy
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