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Posted: 10/10/2013 11:03:28 AM EDT
| So I understand that good 2-stage triggers are best for precision shots, but does the 2-stage function slow down the mechanical ability of fire rate? If one was looking for a 'fast' semi-auto trigger, what would be considered the fastest? |
| I a reliably run .12-.14 splits on my RRA 2 stage trigger while maintaining A zone hits at 15 yards. I can do the same on my LWRC with a standard I spec trigger I now have a new rifle with a SD3G. I haven't been able to test the speed of it yet, but it feels like I might be able to squeeze out another couple of tenths faster with the SD3G. Hopefully this weekend I can get out and time myself. |
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I a reliably run .12-.14 splits on my RRA 2 stage trigger while maintaining A zone hits at 15 yards. I can do the same on my LWRC with a standard I spec trigger I now have a new rifle with a SD3G. I haven't been able to test the speed of it yet, but it feels like I might be able to squeeze out another couple of tenths faster with the SD3G. Hopefully this weekend I can get out and time myself. If you squeeze out a couple of tenths, your second shot would be before your first. That would be interesting to see. I think you mean hundredths. |
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Quoted: Generally speaking, a person's ability to twitch their finger fast enough is the bottleneck, but I suppose with practice a somewhat lighter trigger may help a little. I've had good luck with the AR gold trigger. Pretty much no take up. |
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For guys at the highest levels of competition they seem more concerned with recoil and the cyclic rate of the gun. The trigger just makes it easier to stay on target through the pull.
As others have mentioned, the ability of your finger will be the limiting factor. I can only shoot about 300 rounds per minute. |
| You usually learn to shoot a two-stage trigger from the reset when going for doubles, or overall speed. With some of the two-stage triggers, you can really adjust the reset down to a point that it is nearly the same as a good single-stage. If I compare my Geissele Hi-Speed to my JP, the pull is a little longer, as is the reset. However, it isn't that much different as far as speed goes. As the above poster hints at, for many targets, it takes longer to get back on target than it does to reset, and begin the next pull. While a pistol isn't exactly the same, the trigger on my Glock is a mile long. However, by only letting he trigger just far enough forward to reset, it literally takes the gun longer to recoil, and level-out, than it does to reset. I can't outrun the gun, but if I fired as fast as I can, the second shot would always be high, and I have pretty good recoil control. |
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If you squeeze out a couple of tenths, your second shot would be before your first. That would be interesting to see. I think you mean hundredths. Quoted:
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I a reliably run .12-.14 splits on my RRA 2 stage trigger while maintaining A zone hits at 15 yards. I can do the same on my LWRC with a standard I spec trigger I now have a new rifle with a SD3G. I haven't been able to test the speed of it yet, but it feels like I might be able to squeeze out another couple of tenths faster with the SD3G. Hopefully this weekend I can get out and time myself. If you squeeze out a couple of tenths, your second shot would be before your first. That would be interesting to see. I think you mean hundredths. You're right, I wouldn't expect a SD3G to shave tenths off of split times. I meant hundredths. Maybe, split times won't necessarily improve, but I would expect them to be more consistent. When doing 10 rounds as fast as I can, the 10 round string usually varies between .11-.15. If I can't get my split times down with the SD3G, I would at least expect that the splits would be more consistent. I've found that with my RRA 2 stage and my LWRC milspec triggers, I can sometimes short stroke the reset. I would expect the SD3G would help eliminate the occasional short stroke. We'll see. I plan to get out this weekend and run some speed drills with the SD3G and my new Leupy Mark 6. |
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I have seen guys run a crappy stock trigger about as fast as humanly possible. A nice trigger just makes you work less to get there and lets you be more consistent. I've got fast fingers, I've actually gotten hammer follow before on a couple rifles with light gas and heavy buffers 
Bump firing can do the same thing, partly because you're slowing down the cyclic rate of the bolt by not having it on your shoulder. |
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