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Posted: 2/19/2021 5:13:07 PM EDT
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Holly cow, we lost Rush but Molon is back?! Excellent post as usual and this new loading seems accurate (enough). The Fed load using TBBC that I tried had terrible accuracy, maybe 4-5MOA iirc so this seems an improvement although I doubt I could match OP's groups. I read the article about these bullets in Guns and Ammo or American Rifleman recently but never thought I here would ever see any in .223. |
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Appreciate the data as always. Structurally, this seems very similar to TBBC but with a polymer tip. Presuming the toughness of the jacket is retained, this could be a truly exceptional all-purpose defensive bullet. Presumably superior/more reliable expansion with the outstanding barrier defeat capabilities of TBBC, plus better accuracy to boot (TBBC is a monster bullet but goodness is it inaccurate). |
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Quoted: Interesting choice to nickel plate the projectile. Im wondering if it wears the barrel more than a traditional copper jacket or the nickel fouling is more difficult to remove. Were you able to bore scope the barrel after shooting these? No they don't foul more and you're not gonna be able to afford enough of them to notice any increased barrel wear |
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Quoted: Interesting choice to nickel plate the projectile. Im wondering if it wears the barrel more than a traditional copper jacket or the nickel fouling is more difficult to remove. Were you able to bore scope the barrel after shooting these? I doubt the nickle will foul more, the whole point of nickle ammo is for it to be smoother feeding. I also doubt it will wear the barrel more. Steel jacketed ammo like the wolf, bear, and tula stuff is what will wear the barrel more. You get ~ 2x the wear from a steel jacket round compared to a non. Even then, you would still have to shoot thousands of rounds of it to wear the barrel to a significant degree. |
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It seems that nickel plated projectiles are becoming more common i.e. the Mk318 mod 1. The first thing I thought also was will fouling or barrel wear be increased/reduced by the nickel. Is there ANY practical benefit from the nickel plating or is it just cosmetics and a marketing gimmick? How will cleaning solvents designed to battle copper fouling work on nickel? Yes I know I will never shoot enough to see a difference but I am still curious of the pro's vs. cons of nickel plating. |
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Quoted: It seems that nickel plated projectiles are becoming more common i.e. the Mk318 mod 1. The first thing I thought also was will fouling or barrel wear be increased/reduced by the nickel. Is there ANY practical benefit from the nickel plating or is it just cosmetics and a marketing gimmick? How will cleaning solvents designed to battle copper fouling work on nickel? Yes I know I will never shoot enough to see a difference but I am still curious of the pro's vs. cons of nickel plating. Federal says that the electroplated nickel coating prevents corrosion in adverse conditions, but I personally think it's more marketing hype. Nickel has a lower friction coefficient than copper, so theoretically it decreases friction and lowers pressure and increases accuracy, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it actually has. Federal says to clean like regular copper jacketed ammo, with normal solvents and a brush. I think its more an aesthetic gimmick than anything else. But they sure look distinctive |
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Quoted: Source or data please. Well a chrome lined 556 barrel can last 15-20K rounds. The trophy bonded tip ammo, if you can even find it, is around 2.00-2.50 dollars per round, if not more. So being generous, would you spend 30k dollars + worth of one particular type of ammo through one singular barrel? |
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Quoted: Well a chrome lined 556 barrel can last 15-20K rounds. The trophy bonded tip ammo, if you can even find it, is around 2.00-2.50 dollars per round, if not more. So being generous, would you spend 30k dollars + worth of one particular type of ammo through one singular barrel? Just stop being poor I guess? TBBT isnt the only nickel plated bullet out there either. |
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Quoted: I didn't scope the barrel after testing the Trophy Bonded Tip. I might do that after testing these loads . . . https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28568/winchester_64_grain_defense_tip_molon_00-1864499.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/28568/mk318_mod_1_002-1864497.jpg .... I'm really looking forward to your Mk318 Mod 1 results. For me it groups much better than the Mod 0 |
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