Federal value pack > Ammunition

Posted: 8/23/2008 1:26:06 PM EDT

Has anyone fired any of the Federal 55gr. value pack from Wally World ? I just picked some up today. Wondering about velocity. I wont be able to check mine for a week or so.

Posted: 8/23/2008 1:37:48 PM EDT

[#1]

I bought a 200rd pack of the 50gr JHP (didn't realize it wasn't 55gr till I got in the truck) yesterday and burned up a 20rd box when I got home. I don't have any velocity measurements for you, but I do have a couple questions. The LOA of the cartridge is shorter than the 55gr M193 I've been shooting. It seemed to work fine when i was shooting yesterday, but I'm worried that the shorter cartridge length might cause feeding problems. Any issues, or do I just need a tin-foil hat?

Also, is it reloaded brass? I noticed it has a Lake City headstamp - at least I think it does (LC 07 with a circled cross).

Posted: 8/23/2008 1:45:06 PM EDT

[#2]

Well I've been screwed. Mine is Federal brass. Your brass ( lake city ) is great. Mine (federal ) sucks. Have to check OAL. Like I said just got it and opened 1 box to check it out.

Posted: 8/23/2008 3:18:01 PM EDT

[#3]

I've shot the Federal Value Pack ammo many times, including the required 500 rounds at the Front Sight training academy. I've found no particular problems with it. I recommend it.

Posted: 8/23/2008 3:23:36 PM EDT

[#4]

THX guys. I've never seen this stuff before. Comes in white boxes ( 5 /20 rd boxes to 1 big box) Marked not for resale. They are less than 1.200 OAL too. They are sealed at the primer. Not sure about the neck.

Posted: 8/23/2008 4:01:21 PM EDT

[#5]

This was all the rage a year or so ago, when it was $57.88 a box. I picked up 5 boxes but haven't shot any yet.

Posted: 8/23/2008 5:04:40 PM EDT

[#6]

The new 100 round (5 x 20/box) is running $39.95.

Bought a couple yesterday cause I was there. Not sure I feel comfortable forkin out $425+ for standard load .223....

Posted: 8/23/2008 7:28:19 PM EDT

[#7]

I'll try and get chrono data some time this week. Hopefully it will be in the 2900 fps range out of my 16' guns. The PMC i have only hits 2775 fps. The old Win. 40 packs hit 2950 fps.

Posted: 8/23/2008 7:41:58 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
The LOA of the cartridge is shorter than the 55gr M193 I've been shooting. It seemed to work fine when i was shooting yesterday, but I'm worried that the shorter cartridge length might cause feeding problems. Any issues, or do I just need a tin-foil hat?

Also, is it reloaded brass? I noticed it has a Lake City headstamp - at least I think it does (LC 07 with a circled cross).

1. Load is .223 spec, not 5.56. This means bullet is seated a bit deeper than M193 or M855 is--less freebore in a .223 barrel, more freebore in 5.56. It won't cause firing or feeding problems. I reload all my FMJ to M913 length, but I've fired a bunch of .223 spec length in AR and Mini-14. It all feeds goodly.

2. FC brass is good for one reload only. LC is good for five reloads.

Posted: 8/24/2008 4:53:38 AM EDT

[#9]

1. That makes sense. Chalk it up to lack of thought process.

2. Cool, I've never seen any info on how many times brass can be reloaded, so that's good to know.

Thanks for the help.

Posted: 8/24/2008 4:03:13 PM EDT

[#10]

I have shot both out of my Bushmaster M4. The 50gr HP I had some feed issues. I have about 10 or so round that the bullets was pushed back into the case so I am going to pull it down and reload the LC brass. The advantage to the 50Gr HP os the LC brass. The 55gr FMJ is in Federal brass but it has a crimp in it so I dont know if it is the bad type of Federal brass to load. I have a bog full of brass to cut in half and take measurements. The 55Gr FMJ feeds a lot better but I still had 1 FTF in the 100 that I have shot.

MAHA

Posted: 8/27/2008 7:25:29 AM EDT

[#11]

Got to the range today.Chronoed it at 2865 fps, 15' from the muzzle. This is out of a 16" SS barrel. Accuracy was ok but only have a RD on this gun at the moment. 1.25" @ 50 yds. They were getting ready to mow the grass so I couldnt stay and try 100 yds.
Lake city checked at the same time was 3235 fps, and 1" @ 50 yds.

Posted: 8/27/2008 7:55:00 AM EDT

[#12]

I have fired thousands of rounds from the Federal bulk packs (usually pick up a box or two every time I go to ChinaMart), and have had only a couple of misfires. Will keep buy and shooting.

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