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Posted: 1/22/2014 9:51:17 PM EDT
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Ferfrans CQB Modular Muzzle Brake System
*** Click on a photo for ordering info and pricing *** Description: The new Ferfrans CQB Modular Muzzle Brake System is a two part system consisting of the performance MUZZLE BRAKE MOUNT + CRD (Concussion Reduction Device) which features a built in quick attach/detach mechanism. Specs: Muzzle Brake Mount Specs: Weight - 4.0 oz Length - 2.28" Brake Thread Pattern - 1/2x28 Caliber - (.223/556) CRD (Concussion Reduction Device) Specs: Length - 2.17" Width - 1.6" Diameter Total weight of the system combined is 10.4 ounces. 
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So is this better than a YHM flash hider or muzzle brake suppressor mount with a SSS brake shield? It's a lot cheaper and you don't have to have access to the collar to remove it.
Is the brake compatible with any QD suppressors? If not, why make the shroud QD? I'm all for innovation and new ideas, just not seeing the advantage. |
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found some videos of it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8-ju332HAA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH13VFhilTU |
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found some videos of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8-ju332HAA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH13VFhilTU Question about that dudes helmet/earpro....... Are his earpro attached on some sort of flip mount on the sides of his helmet? They look like they flip up. If so, what's the mount and what brands/models of earpro does it work with? |
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Question about that dudes helmet/earpro....... Are his earpro attached on some sort of flip mount on the sides of his helmet? They look like they flip up. If so, what's the mount and what brands/models of earpro does it work with? They look a bit like the 3M / Peltor set attached to a Team Wendy Exfil (according to the video) helmet. As for how this compares to the Brakesheild, I believe that they claimed in another thread that the ports on the unit help maintain rearward-recoil reduction of the brake. I haven't tried either, but without the ports, too much of the blast was supposedly directed forward, defeating some of the effectiveness of the brake. |
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As for how this compares to the Brakesheild, I believe that they claimed in another thread that the ports on the unit help maintain rearward-recoil reduction of the brake. I haven't tried either, but without the ports, too much of the blast was supposedly directed forward, defeating some of the effectiveness of the brake. You are correct. 
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I've been posting about wanting something like this for years (and I'm not an operator).
MB for maximizing control and recoil reduction when at the range, but a shroud to project noise and blast forward for HD and shooting close to others at a carbine class). 4oz is a bit heavy for a brake, but it probably is more rugged to be a solid attachment place. I wish all brakes offered a QD shroud like this...some could focus, like this one on recoil reduction, some could turn it into a flash hider. |
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It's quite obvious that you have never been next to someone firing their SBR. Quoted:
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It seems to be a good product but unless you're in the military or a contractor there's no reason to waste your money on it. It's quite obvious that you have never been next to someone firing their SBR. Oh please my 7.5 ARP with Kx3 has barely any recoil, and the noise is mostly sent forward, doesn't sound any louder than a std AR. |
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Oh please my 7.5 ARP with Kx3 has barely any recoil, and the noise is mostly sent forward, doesn't sound any louder than a std AR. Quoted:
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It seems to be a good product but unless you're in the military or a contractor there's no reason to waste your money on it. It's quite obvious that you have never been next to someone firing their SBR. Oh please my 7.5 ARP with Kx3 has barely any recoil, and the noise is mostly sent forward, doesn't sound any louder than a std AR. Thanks for making my point. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT A KX3 IS DESIGINED TO DO! |
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No I have not. My job is not with weapons but there isn't a civilian scenario where this comes in handy. I don't have to clear a room everyday. It's a neat toy. When I build a rifle I have a purpose for what goes on it. So do I, but according to you, shooting matches makes us "special forces" wannabes? I bought a KX3, which is similar to this thing in concept, because I like my fillings to stay in place when shooting my SBR. When shooting CQ matches, there are walls and barrels, and there is usually a range officer with the timer right beside or behind you. A "civilian scenario" doesn't usually require an AR-15 either, yet here we are. You can be a fudd if you want to, you sound a bit like one. The other guys can buy whatever expensive farkles they want to hang on their boutique rifles. You won't get along well with people on a site like this going around saying "You don't need that" |
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No I have not. My job is not with weapons but there isn't a civilian scenario where this comes in handy. I don't have to clear a room everyday. It's a neat toy. When I build a rifle I have a purpose for what goes on it. Why are you even posting in this thread then? SBRs have increased muzzle blast, noise, and concussion. Muzzle brakes exacerbate this effect. The outer "shell" is designed to reduce the muzzle blast esp. to the sides of the weapon without disabling the muzzle brake effect. Google "SBR fireball" you can see some huge fireballs where the blast consumes the front of handguard. Get your hand too close to the muzzle you might take some damage. |
It is awesome with and without the reduction device on. Off to blow up your shooting neighbors and on when I'm sweeping tight quarters. Just a heads up, it is HEAVIER with the shroud on, a lot heavier. Balances nicely with a 10.3 tho This is my home defense setup in progress and the CRD def has civilian application for that purpose |
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http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/null_zps02699b7a.jpg It is awesome with and without the reduction device on. Off to blow up your shooting neighbors and on when I'm sweeping tight quarters. Just a heads up, it is HEAVIER with the shroud on, a lot heavier. Balances nicely with a 10.3 tho This is my home defense setup in progress and the CRD def has civilian application for that purpose I still want to know if the intent was to have a QD suppressor to mount on the same brake, because that would make sense. |
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http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/null_zps02699b7a.jpg It is awesome with and without the reduction device on. Off to blow up your shooting neighbors and on when I'm sweeping tight quarters. Just a heads up, it is HEAVIER with the shroud on, a lot heavier. Balances nicely with a 10.3 tho This is my home defense setup in progress and the CRD def has civilian application for that purpose That is actually better looking than I thought. How is the recoil mitigation, both with, and without the shroud? I am setting up a rifle for use in "patrol rifle" matches, and some of them frown on full-on brakes. For reference, my other match rifle uses a Bennie Cooley brake (if you are familiar with it). |
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That is actually better looking than I thought. How is the recoil mitigation, both with, and without the shroud? I am setting up a rifle for use in "patrol rifle" matches, and some of them frown on full-on brakes. For reference, my other match rifle uses a Bennie Cooley brake (if you are familiar with it). Quoted:
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http://i1246.photobucket.com/albums/gg607/emtothedee/null_zps02699b7a.jpg It is awesome with and without the reduction device on. Off to blow up your shooting neighbors and on when I'm sweeping tight quarters. Just a heads up, it is HEAVIER with the shroud on, a lot heavier. Balances nicely with a 10.3 tho This is my home defense setup in progress and the CRD def has civilian application for that purpose That is actually better looking than I thought. How is the recoil mitigation, both with, and without the shroud? I am setting up a rifle for use in "patrol rifle" matches, and some of them frown on full-on brakes. For reference, my other match rifle uses a Bennie Cooley brake (if you are familiar with it). It is very good at reducing the recoil without the reduction device. With it on, there is a noticable addition of a rearward impulse, but a huge decrease in sound. It is less concussive than my 16 in rifle with a griffin flash comp II. |
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Wow, I have to say that is one of the neatest pictures I have ever seen. I agree with you RDTCU, this would make a great alternative to a suppressor that uses the same mount in scenario's where length (or lack thereof) takes paramount over noise discipline. Neat product. |
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Ugh. I just spent $400 in muzzle brakes getting all my barrels to fit the same SAS can.
I would be all over these outer shrouds for 3gun if they worked and they could fit onto a supressor mount. Though, even if they did I think a bunch of other companies cans would get made ahead of mine. Also, I just realized that the dimensions would probably bump me into Open Division, in which case I would just use my supressor because I'm coming in dead last anyway. |
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