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11/6/2008 7:37:47 PM EDT
I'm having a problem with a brand new bolt carrier group. The firing pin retaining pin doesn't want to go back in. The prongs on it spread out once it's through the first hole, so it won't go into the hole on the other side. I've tried needle-nosed pliers but they're too fat to get in where I need them. Any trick to this? Or is there something wrong with the retaining pin? Thanks.
11/6/2008 11:16:22 PM EDT
[#1]
You want it to have some spread to it. But with what you have described, you could use your needle nose pliers on the head of the pin, once it's in the first hole, line it up with the second and slowly rotate it with slight pressure to get it started into the other side. I

One thing to check for is any burrs on the tip of the pin too. It should have a slight angle on it.
11/7/2008 1:59:10 AM EDT
[#2]
If it does go back in with the normal slight twisting as it is pushed in I found rounding the end of the pin a little helps sometimes. Or you could order a Colt factory pin from Brownells. They are already rounded on the end.
11/7/2008 2:31:15 AM EDT
[#3]
Doesn't help you out now but sometimes it is just best to shitcan the old pin and grab a new one from your spare parts. Brownells sells them by the five pack for cheep

You do have spare parts  (sarcasm)
11/7/2008 2:40:41 AM EDT
[#4]
+1 on spinning the FPRP during insertion. Keep trying, it'll go in.

It's a brand-new carrier, with a brand-new FPRP. No reason to replace it with another new pin.
11/7/2008 3:31:24 PM EDT
[#5]
Finally got it. No amount of turning helped so I had to bend the prongs by sticking a thumbtack in between them and clamping the ends together with pliers. Works pretty good now, although it might be TOO loose...
11/7/2008 4:03:57 PM EDT
[#6]



Quoted:

Works pretty good now, although it might be TOO loose...
There's a reason why the pin is spread like it is.  




11/7/2008 9:02:59 PM EDT
[#7]
Well how it was spread before, the only possible reason I can see was that they wanted to keep me from assembling my bolt carrier.

Seriously though, any downside to it being a bit loose? It doesn't fall out by itself when tipped on it's side or anything like that, but it's pretty easy now to pop out with a pen.
11/8/2008 5:24:06 AM EDT
[#8]



Quoted:

Well how it was spread before, the only possible reason I can see was that they wanted to keep me from assembling my bolt carrier.




Seriously though, any downside to it being a bit loose? It doesn't fall out by itself when tipped on it's side or anything like that, but it's pretty easy now to pop out with a pen.


Well, I’m not doubting you when you describe the condition of your FPRP.







All I can say is, through my personal experience, I’ve ran into FPRPs that seemed to not want to go in. Twisting the pin in a back-and-forth motion during installation has always worked. (This trick was first taught to me in basic training in 1985.)







Your definitely not the first person to encounter this problem here on ARFCOM, and the above advice has always worked for others.





After describing how you bent your FPRP, I personally would not use it, and would replace it with a new one. That is just my personal opinion. If you think the pin is still serviceable, use it. If it was my weapon, I wouldn’t want to run the risk of the pin vibrating out, causing a malfunction.







11/8/2008 5:32:22 AM EDT
[#9]
The pin will not come out the upper will hold it in. There really is a big difference in the shape of a Colt pins end and the commercial ones. Makes them a lot easier to put in.
11/8/2008 12:53:48 PM EDT
[#10]
If the pin is bent by the installer, he stands a chance over time of cold working the metal, possibly causing the pin to split in half.

The pin breaks, a piece possibly vibrates out causing a malfunction.
11/8/2008 1:26:29 PM EDT
[#11]
Thanks for the help guys
11/8/2008 8:43:23 PM EDT
[#12]
FWIW, from the -10 Operators Manual.........

11/8/2008 8:46:28 PM EDT
[#13]
2X tap.
11/9/2008 8:57:26 AM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Well how it was spread before, the only possible reason I can see was that they wanted to keep me from assembling my bolt carrier.

Seriously though, any downside to it being a bit loose? It doesn't fall out by itself when tipped on it's side or anything like that, but it's pretty easy now to pop out with a pen.
Well, I’m not doubting you when you describe the condition of your FPRP.

All I can say is, through my personal experience, I’ve ran into FPRPs that seemed to not want to go in. Twisting the pin in a back-and-forth motion during installation has always worked. (This trick was first taught to me in basic training in 1985.)

Your definitely not the first person to encounter this problem here on ARFCOM, and the above advice has always worked for others.

After describing how you bent your FPRP, I personally would not use it, and would replace it with a new one. That is just my personal opinion. If you think the pin is still serviceable, use it. If it was my weapon, I wouldn’t want to run the risk of the pin vibrating out, causing a malfunction.





+1  My friend bought a new AR last week and first day I went over pulled the bolt assembly apart, oiled and for the life of me could not get the FPRP back in. I tried turning and turning till my fingers hurt like hell. My friend was looking at me like I tore his new rifle up. It finally went. First time home from the range, stripped, cleaned, oiled and pin just dropped right in NP.
11/9/2008 8:38:59 PM EDT
[#15]
Might get a new pin just to be safe

How are the solids compared to the cotter pins?
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