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3/13/2006 7:21:11 PM EDT
Newb here looking for my first M16/M4 style civilian legal rifle. I would like a complete flat top rifle with a telescoping butt-stock. I'd like to attach a red dot scope for optics, and a picatinny rail with vert grip. Can the knowlegeable experts out there, give me advice on all the components I'd like to get, such as companies/manufacturers?

Thanks in advance
3/13/2006 7:32:59 PM EDT
[#1]
read around--expecially the tacked threads, try your "search" button

for a stock AR, stick to the ABCDR brands

same for parts, but include CMT and LMT

can you be a little more specfic--uses for the AR? budget? build or buy whole? etc
3/13/2006 7:47:40 PM EDT
[#2]
I'd like a "buy whole" rifle. As for uses, I'd like it for personal defense and just shootin at the range for shits and giggles. Dealing with budget, I wouldnt mind spending two thousand just to start with.
3/13/2006 8:38:48 PM EDT
[#3]
You're in CA,  your options for buying whole rifles is limited.
3/13/2006 9:19:42 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:
You're in CA,  your options for buying whole rifles is limited.



He could get a nice Preban lower and add the bells and whistles to it.  No?


TS
3/13/2006 9:43:12 PM EDT
[#5]
moving to arizona soon, no strict bans, sorry didnt mention
3/13/2006 9:57:59 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Dealing with budget, I wouldnt mind spending two thousand just to start with.



2K to get started?  Holy Crap, where do we start?
3/16/2006 4:14:31 PM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
You're in CA,  your options for buying whole rifles is limited.



He could get a nice Preban lower and add the bells and whistles to it.  No?


TS


Nope.
3/16/2006 4:24:29 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I'd like a "buy whole" rifle. As for uses, I'd like it for personal defense and just shootin at the range for shits and giggles. Dealing with budget, I wouldnt mind spending two thousand just to start with.


You will buy a hell of a carbine/rifle for 2k.  With that cheddar I would go all out with a Noveske N4SPR or BUILD one around a WOA SPR upper.

My .02.
3/16/2006 5:39:22 PM EDT
[#9]
$2k to start?! Nice! You should do well.

I'm @ $2k with 98% of everything I want in an AR that is currently available. This includes case, light, optics, cleaning supplies, mags etc. The only thing I didn't get was a LaRue FF tube.

If you want to learn all you can, just lurk here a little while and read all you can. I learned so much in so little time just reading things on this site.

3/16/2006 6:12:10 PM EDT
[#10]
With a $2K budget you could get a M4 type carbine and pick any brand you like, Armalite, Bushmaster, Colt, LMT, RRA, Stag Arms, etc.

Dont get Vulcan/ Hesse.

For optics either an Aimpoint or EOTech would be fine.

You should also get a back up iron sight like ARMS, Troy, Knight's or LaRue.

If you want to put railed handguard Midwest Industries, Knight's Armament Co. (KAC) M4 RAS, Samson/ Troy brands are some of the brands to choose from.

If you want a vertical front grip look at the KAC or TangoDown, they're popular.

Don't forget plenty of mags and ammo.
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