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11/7/2006 9:05:01 AM EDT
well my first build is already having issues..  
i got sent a 4rail gas block instead of the normal front sight gas block. i know it's more pricey but i'm old school and i like iron sights.

for some f'n reason the state police said that the background check is going to take 7days.. 7 days background check ,WTF!!   does anyone know how i can speed this up..?  who can i call to bitch at?

thanks
11/7/2006 9:46:01 AM EDT
[#1]
Why are the state police doing your background check?  In GA, it's the FBI/NICS (NICS - Nat'l Instant Criminal Background Check System), and it takes about 30 seconds online or 10 minutes on the phone.  

Does the railed block have something to do with the delay, or was it just weighing on your mind before you posted?  I like iron sights too, so I wouldn't be okay with just a gas block and no provision for a front sight either.

EDIT: Nevermind.  Looks like you're at the mercy of the state cops.  I'd vote for pro-gun candidates and/or move to a less-restrictive state, if I were you.


BACKGROUND CHECK AT STATE LEVEL
Do state police perform a background check in addition to federal NICS check?  Yes

Oregon: State law requires all gun buyers to go through a state-based criminal background check which includes the federal NICS check. In 2000, 1,171 illegal gun buyers were stopped in Oregon due to the background check. There is a $9 fee for the background check.


www.stategunlaws.org/viewstate.php?choose_state=Go&st=OR
11/7/2006 9:57:35 AM EDT
[#2]
Here in Florida the FFL does the call in and it takes about 30 seconds to 2 minutes if they are busy.
11/7/2006 1:00:29 PM EDT
[#3]
FFL did the call.. and they were running it and one of the officers in the background told the one on the phone that results will be out on the 14th.  which i know is absolutely bullsh!t. Just becuase i have nothing on my record, dosent mean there's something fishy.  it just means i'm a good law obidding citizen.
i'm about to call the local Dpt. and see if i can B!%^H at them
11/7/2006 1:17:55 PM EDT
[#4]
Get the upper together in the meantime, doesn't take long to get the lower together once you have everything and are ready to go.
11/7/2006 1:20:55 PM EDT
[#5]
i got an assembled upper half.. so the onlt thing missing is the lower receiver..   it's just pissing me off that they said it's going to take 1 week for a lousy 10 second background check.  i just called the main office for oreon state police and got transfered to some dept. and just go a voice mail. so i left a message.  This is making me upset that it's taking so much time..  i should have just bought a used AR that ways i wouldnt have to deal with background checks..
11/7/2006 1:22:45 PM EDT
[#6]
That is a pia, even NY doesn't have that (yet)

edit I'd send that upper back and get the one you ordered.
11/7/2006 1:48:40 PM EDT
[#7]
Not trying to rain on your parade or make you even mader but 7 days probably means
7 BUSINESS days.  IF you buy a gun and your NICS gets flagged they have 3-5 BUSINESS days so if you buy on a thursday you will not be good to go until monday to wensday.  Some dealers will release at the 3day mark others will wait the whole five just to make sure they do not need to call you back in.  

Might want to check on that as well.  In the future buy multiple guns at once if this is the case cin your state.  
11/7/2006 1:50:30 PM EDT
[#8]

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I'd send that upper back and get the one you ordered.


Definitely!  Have you looked at how much a front sight to go on that railed gas block is going to cost you?  They screwed up, not you, so make them take it back at their expense for a replacement (they should send a label or give you a shipping account number for UPS/Fedex to charge it to) while you wait on the fuzz to clear up the background check on their end.
11/7/2006 2:12:40 PM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I'd send that upper back and get the one you ordered.


Definitely!  Have you looked at how much a front sight to go on that railed gas block is going to cost you?  They screwed up, not you, so make them take it back at their expense for a replacement (they should send a label or give you a shipping account number for UPS/Fedex to charge it to) while you wait on the fuzz to clear up the background check on their end.


You know, ifyou want a regular front sight and instead end up putting  bolt on front sight on a gas block, maybe functionally it's the same, but it just ain't the same, know what I mean?
11/7/2006 2:33:11 PM EDT
[#10]
yeah.. i'm debating if i should keep it or not, since it's more expensive w/ gas block.
this it my first AR so i'm not even sure what i want or need..( i kind of want everykind of AR at the moment)..   so i want iron sight, and i want a scope..   but a scope is probably more practical.

so far i'm thinking off...
scope
iron sight( buis or fixed, not sure)
bi-pod
4 rail hand gaurd
vertical handle
xenon light,
green laser sight
custom stock..( will have to come up with a design then build it)
sling

i'v done sharpshooting for many years, so at times i get bored with iron sights, but deep down inside i still love them



about the background check..
what bothers me is i know i have a 100% clean Criminal, driving and parking record .. you cannot get any better.. so why all this wait

11/7/2006 3:06:20 PM EDT
[#11]
i just got of the phone with the head of the criminal records dept at the State police and she said that it's odd that i was told 1 week..  gave her my SSN and she said hopefully that would speed it up to 3~4 days...   i guess i can thank the Clinton administration for this.. yippe
11/7/2006 7:50:49 PM EDT
[#12]
Nice they got it all cleared up
11/8/2006 4:31:44 AM EDT
[#13]
First AR and you want a front sight, send it back and get what you want. I would not the only AR i own to have a gas block instead of a front sight.
11/8/2006 12:56:21 PM EDT
[#14]
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First AR and you want a front sight, send it back and get what you want. I would not the only AR i own to have a gas block instead of a front sight.


i'm ending up keeping it..  i 'm going to mount a bipod any ways..  so the 4 rail gas block would be a nice strong sturdy point to mount it
11/8/2006 1:29:48 PM EDT
[#15]
i would scratch the green laser off your list....they're cool alright but good luck getting it zero'd and secondly good luck keeping it zero'd.  also there are a lot of delicate parts that go into the internals of green lasers and probably won't withstand being mounted on your rifle.
11/8/2006 1:59:43 PM EDT
[#16]

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i would scratch the green laser off your list....they're cool alright but good luck getting it zero'd and secondly good luck keeping it zero'd.  also there are a lot of delicate parts that go into the internals of green lasers and probably won't withstand being mounted on your rifle.


The China-tastic ones are reportedly junk, and the nice ones are EXPENSIVE!
11/8/2006 5:21:53 PM EDT
[#17]
come on, do you think i care about any of the accsories. i'm not going to battle with my gun..  so most of it is just for looks..   If the laser is real horible i'll just mount it on my paintball gun
11/8/2006 6:47:22 PM EDT
[#18]

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come on, do you think i care about any of the accsories. i'm not going to battle with my gun..  so most of it is just for looks..   If the laser is real horible i'll just mount it on my paintball gun


Paintball guns are sweet these days.  My cheapo Brass Eagle Tigershark pump-action paintball gun back in the day was super-duper, but I'd get murdered with the rigs they have now.  
11/8/2006 8:22:09 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
come on, do you think i care about any of the accsories. i'm not going to battle with my gun..  so most of it is just for looks..   If the laser is real horible i'll just mount it on my paintball gun


Paintball guns are sweet these days.  My cheapo Brass Eagle Tigershark pump-action paintball gun back in the day was super-duper, but I'd get murdered with the rigs they have now.  


ya i miss paintballin
11/9/2006 12:27:01 AM EDT
[#20]

off topic , but that's my PB gun
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