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Posted: 10/1/2013 4:52:13 PM EDT
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I'm looking to get my first optics. I wanted to pick up a dot sight and a scope. I wanted to get them in QD mounts so i could interchange them for target shooting. I'm not looking to break the bank on my first optic when i don't even know what i am looking for in the first place. I found one on sale, its not a standard dual ring mount scope, its a single point mount. Was looking for opinions with regards to buying for my first optic. Planned use is on my 10/22, Stag 2t, and Colt 20" carbine. I'm not looking for professional result or ridiculous precision at several hundred yards... but i was looking to get something to have fun with on a semi-long target range (maybe up to 300 yards).
Thanks for the input! http://www.slickguns.com/product/utac%C2%AE-25-10x40-dual-illuminated-tactical-rifle-scope-7999-shipped 
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Buy once cry once, don't waste your hard earned money on junk. Shoot irons until you have the cash for a decent scope, it will make you a better shooter as well. You'll buy some POS like that then have to rezero it every time. The first time you drop it on a pillow from 4" and it's broke. Irons for the win. |
| My experience is that if you're going to try to go cheap to experiment with the kind of Optic you might want, it's not necessarily a bad way to go as long as you accept up front that you're burning the money you're spending and will want to upgrade in short order. There may be a use for that cheap optic at sometime in the future, such as a very cool upgrade to your kid's air soft gun, etc. There are choices that aren't super expensive, made by reputable companies with better quality control that are sold by reputable retailers that can help make the same decision and if you decide you don't like it (within a reasonable period of time), you will be able to return or exchange it for something more appropriate to your needs or sell it on the secondary market. You'll spend more money up front, but I can assure you that you'll spend less in the long run. You can get a very good quality Nitrex scope (Japanese Weaver) from Natchez Shooter's Supply for $99 (formerly $319). It's not a "tactical" scope per say, but it will help you decide if you like a magnified optic on your AR platform without buying a hit or miss piece of junk and hope you get a good one. Plus, it's something that you would have no problem selling for about what you paid or using it on a deer rifle, etc. Just look at craigslist and you'll see a ton of those cheap UTAC kind of optics that stay listed for weeks with no interest. People buy them, aren't satisfied with them and can't unload them. You don't have to spend a fortune to get reasonable quality optics, but you do have to spend more than $69, unless, as I said before, you accept that it's "throw away." |
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http://quib.weaponevolution.com/HD7%20Mounted%20Close%20III.pngGo with a Lucid hd7. cant go wrong. and it has multiple recitals with zero poi shift. Runs about $200 iirc. Also has auto brightness if you want it. Mine is tough as nails and would not hesitate taking it into combat. This. Excellent construction and optical quality for a very reasonable price. The newest version, which I have, has covered turrets and a nice chevron type reticle option. You can add QD mounts from Lucid, made by ADM for them, for $150 extra on down the road. Amazing combination of quality and value. Another excellent option in the same price range is Lucid's new M7 micro dot. I think this is going to turn out to be a "poor man's" T-1. And I like that Lucid uses AAA batteries in this and AA's in the HD7. You can get them anywhere, any place, any time. I just picked up the little M7 micro dot and am very impressed with it. I'd attach a photo of the M7 on my own AR, but can't seem to figure out how to do it in this forum. I bought the M7 to go on a tactical shotgun and have since moved it to that shotgun, but have photos of it on both an AR and a tactical Remington 1100. I do have a Bushnell TRS-25 on a .22LR., which is where I think they belong. Seems reasonably well-made at its price point. I think it is a good choice for a non-critical strickly sporting application, but not something to rely on. Tried it on a 12 gauge shotgun with slugs and buckshot and it would not hold zero. Edit: I think I found a "work around" on image posting. Here is the M7 on my AR: Lucid M7 |
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OP, if you want a scope, Primary Arms is ok for the budget. If you want a red dot, Vortex Strikefire hands down. I would have to agree if you want red dot. Nothing comes close quality for the money combined with features, battery life, toughness and an unlimited lifetime warranty backed by outstanding customer service. If you have a problem with the sight, they will repair or replace with extremely quick turn around, no original receipt required. They actually answer the phone. I have one & it's a great value. |
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^ So you had a problem with yours? Enough so that you had to consult customer service and return a product? And experienced a quick return? Hummmm.
What is your measure on battery life and toughness? What sort of batteries does it use and how readily available are they? Aren't AA or AAA batteries (even lithium ones) cheaper and more readily available? Just curious as to the factual basis for the rather extremely prositive accolade (nothing comes close) on a product that required a return. |
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^ So you had a problem with yours? Enough so that you had to consult customer service and return a product? And experienced a quick return? Hummmm. What is your measure on battery life and toughness? What sort of batteries does it use and how readily available are they? Aren't AA or AAA batteries (even lithium ones) cheaper and more readily available? Just curious as to the factual basis for the rather extremely prositive accolade (nothing comes close) on a product that required a return. The problem was with my eyes, not the red dot. I was seeing a blurred dot because of my astigmatism. Amazingly, they thought that was the problem but sent me a brand new replacement just in case. Once I determined that it was astigmatism, I was able to resolve the blurring problem by which glasses I wore and the brightness of the dot. I have the same problem with any and all red dots, but have learned to use them and like them. |
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And this is why so many military units are so uptight about allowing troops to perform personal modifications and use personally owned equipment. ~Augee Quoted:
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Mine is tough as nails and would not hesitate taking it into combat. And this is why so many military units are so uptight about allowing troops to perform personal modifications and use personally owned equipment. ~Augee QFT |
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