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Posted: 5/31/2007 7:44:04 AM EDT
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What do you have to do to own a full auto, (such as the m4) legally? I get too much conflicting info on this? Is it possible for a citizen to be an owner of the weapon? (Without owning a gun store??) Is there a special gun permit/license? I live in Georgia if that make a difference... Thanks. |
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All your questions will be answered in the Class 3 forum: Class 3 FAQ Basically, per Federal law, if you're legally eligible to own a handgun, you can own a machinegun. Check your state and local laws to find out if they have any other restrictions. In order for a private citizen to buy a machinegun, you have to a find transferable example built and registered prior to May 1986. Machineguns built after this date are not eligible for private ownership. You fill out the ATF Form, get approval from your local Chief Law Enforcement officer (Police Chief, Sheriff, or other authorized local official), submit your fingerprints and send it all to ATF with a check for $200. There are some exceptions to these rules if you purchase the weapon through a corporation or trust. After ATF approves your application and sends you the tax stamp, you can pick up your machinegun (or other Title II device) from a class 3 dealer. If you want a full-auto M16, be prepared to spend ~$12,000+ for the gun...plus the $200 tax listed above. |
No, read my post above. The rifle must be registered prior to May 1986 to be legally transferable. The "newest" transferable machinegun in the US is at least 21yrs old. The $1200 M4 at your dealer is not transferable. There are a finite number of transferable machineguns in the US. That's why they are expensive. |
Read the 1986 Firearm Owners Protection Act |
 Basically...............any "machinegun" made after 1986, you cannot buy. PERIOD! Anything made before 1985, you can purchase.......basically, they are not making any more guns in that time period because it has been over twenty years ago, hence very expensive guns. You might see some full-auto guns for next to nothing, those are 'dealer/military/police guns only'.............read me? |
No. Unless you want to become a FFL and get a dealer sample. I knew a guy who did that. Had a brand new Colt M4 that he used as a sample to show local PDs when they put out for bids. He had to give it up, when he retired. 
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you learn quick. ETA: owning a guns store does not allow you to own new machine guns either. you would have to specificaly be a title II dealer, or have your manufacturers license. if you want some more confusion, you can own pretty close to a new M4 by buying a registered Drop in Auto Sear. this is a device that is used to *convert* an AR15 to an M16. since the RDIAS *is* the machine gun (they are serialized, tax paid, "machine guns" in and of themselves), you could buy it and drop it in your NEW M-4 type AR15. the catch? they are just like every other transferable MG out there. you do the same paperwork, you pay the same 1 time $200 tax, and they are also insanely expensive. i believe the going rate on DIAS's right now is about $14,000.00, IF you can find one... |
Well, a criminal can't really "have" them either as having one comes with a $100,000 fine and 10-years in jail plus a Federal Criminal record so you would never be allowed to own any gun as long as you live... In that context, a $10,000 LEGAL M-16 is quite cheap! |
Yes you can own a full auto M4. The name "M4" has nothing to do with the lower. Plus if you want to get picky about it, put a drop in auto sear in a Colt M4. I have a full auto Colt M16, they are not cheap, it's worth about 15K. But...I'm glad I bought it. I like nice things. |
Der haha Newbs dont know your style yo |
. That way you can blow through a mag or two and realize that they're not all that much fun after all.
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