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8/28/2026 9:47:24 AM EDT
[#1]
Complete is the way, I have a spare in the parts drawer missing the piece that clamps to the rail
Game on!
8/28/2026 10:58:56 AM EDT
[#2]
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Originally Posted By Tamarit_167:
Dude just buy a complete one.

He even says parts are difficult to find and states all of them are missing the exact same parts. Engage critical thinking

(If they're all missing the same parts, and parts are scarce, you aren't gonna magically find the missing parts in a quick google search)
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Ugh I think you’re right
Just evening drinking thoughts
I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet
8/28/2026 11:11:38 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Fordtough25:
Complete is the way, I have a spare in the parts drawer missing the piece that clamps to the rail
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This?  

https://www.forwardcontrolsdesign.com/Retrofit-Kit-Matech_p_68.html
8/28/2026 11:25:08 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By StevieJ309:
Originally Posted By Fordtough25:
Complete is the way, I have a spare in the parts drawer missing the piece that clamps to the rail


This?  

https://www.forwardcontrolsdesign.com/Retrofit-Kit-Matech_p_68.html

Not clone correct.

God will not look you over for medals, diplomas, or degrees – but for scars
8/28/2026 11:37:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BeaterHonda][Edited] [#5]
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Not clone correct.

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Teaser pic. But for real, I’m taking optic suggestions on this 14.5
Specific ACOG? Old EOTech? Aimpoint PRO?

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I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet
8/28/2026 11:43:52 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SecretSquirell][Edited] [#6]
TA31F would be tits.

ETA: Or TA01-NSN
God will not look you over for medals, diplomas, or degrees – but for scars
8/28/2026 12:02:55 PM EDT
[#7]
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Originally Posted By BeaterHonda:

Ugh I think you’re right
Just evening drinking thoughts
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Don't sweat 'er, we've all been there (and have a spare parts bin to prove it )
8/28/2026 12:22:41 PM EDT
[#8]
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Originally Posted By BeaterHonda:

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_4356_jpeg-3818435.JPG

Teaser pic. But for real, I’m taking optic suggestions on this 14.5
Specific ACOG? Old EOTech? Aimpoint PRO?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_4357_jpeg-3818437.JPG
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Originally Posted By BeaterHonda:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:

Not clone correct.


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_4356_jpeg-3818435.JPG

Teaser pic. But for real, I’m taking optic suggestions on this 14.5
Specific ACOG? Old EOTech? Aimpoint PRO?

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/184182/IMG_4357_jpeg-3818437.JPG

Comp M2
Why is the sky blue?
What makes the green grass grow?
8/28/2026 5:45:30 PM EDT
[#10]
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Dang, yes!!!! Looks like I’ll have two complete sights when that order arrives. Thanks!
Game on!
8/29/2026 12:07:12 PM EDT
[#11]
Now with RAS
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8/30/2026 12:03:10 AM EDT
[#12]
Final iteration of the A.R.M.S. RIS II submission build. PEQ-15 is fake because I'm not gonna spend $1800 on a real one when I don't have night vision yet, and some parts are modern equivalents just to have it complete and will be replaced with period correct parts when I find them.

Parts list:
  • Colt Cardinal forge upper, 75th RR surplus
  • Colt 14.5" M4 profile barrel, 2007 date code
  • Colt bcg
  • PRI Gasbuster charging handle
  • A.R.M.S. #50M-CV, tan anodized, AFSOC surplus from 2007-2009
  • A.R.M.S. #40L, tan anodized, Crane surplus from the BIS II testing circa 2005
  • Eotech SU-231, 2009 date code, surplus
  • Insight SU-233, surplus
  • Insight dual button pressure pad, surplus
  • Somogear chocolate chip PEQ-15
  • Tangodown BGV-MK46 foregrip
  • CQD front sling loop, gen 2
  • Colt AR-15A3 Tactical Carbine lower, AWB era w/ restricted markings
  • Redi-Mag, gen 1.2, LE surplus
  • CQD end plate, gen 2
  • Colt 4 position buffer tube
  • Colt ambi safety
  • Ergo Suregrip
  • VLTOR Modstock w/ SOG buttpad
Last parts I need are an M203 with A.R.M.S. #50-GL brackets (unobtainable), Meprolight GLS on an A.R.M.S. #60 mount (unobtainable), and an NT4 (will be purchasing once I have the money for it).




Extra pic in the deployment kit with my 11.5" Blackwater build:



Some more pics of the Blackwater rifle on its own:





Collector, historian, and enthusiast of A.R.M.S. rails, mounts, and accessories.
8/30/2026 11:43:45 AM EDT
[#13]
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Originally Posted By thatARMSguy:

Final iteration of the A.R.M.S. RIS II submission build. PEQ-15 is fake because I'm not gonna spend $1800 on a real one when I don't have night vision yet, and some parts are modern equivalents just to have it complete and will be replaced with period correct parts when I find them.

Parts list:
  • Colt Cardinal forge upper, 75th RR surplus
  • Colt 14.5" M4 profile barrel, 2007 date code
  • Colt bcg
  • PRI Gasbuster charging handle
  • A.R.M.S. #50M-CV, tan anodized, AFSOC surplus from 2007-2009
  • A.R.M.S. #40L, tan anodized, Crane surplus from the BIS II testing circa 2005
  • Eotech SU-231, 2009 date code, surplus
  • Insight SU-233, surplus
  • Insight dual button pressure pad, surplus
  • Somogear chocolate chip PEQ-15
  • Tangodown BGV-MK46 foregrip
  • CQD front sling loop, gen 2
  • Colt AR-15A3 Tactical Carbine lower, AWB era w/ restricted markings
  • Redi-Mag, gen 1.2, LE surplus
  • CQD end plate, gen 2
  • Colt 4 position buffer tube
  • Colt ambi safety
  • Ergo Suregrip
  • VLTOR Modstock w/ SOG buttpad
Last parts I need are an M203 with A.R.M.S. #50-GL brackets (unobtainable), Meprolight GLS on an A.R.M.S. #60 mount (unobtainable), and an NT4 (will be purchasing once I have the money for it).

https://i.imgur.com/V5cUVDE.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/1Bh4Fa1.jpeg

Extra pic in the deployment kit with my 11.5" Blackwater build:

https://i.imgur.com/rEeH33N.jpeg

Some more pics of the Blackwater rifle on its own:

https://i.imgur.com/urXiqXQ.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/pwCMwNV.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/8qd4LtF.jpeg

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Very cool
8/30/2026 4:26:47 PM EDT
[#14]
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Originally Posted By thatARMSguy:

Final iteration of the A.R.M.S. RIS II submission build. PEQ-15 is fake because I'm not gonna spend $1800 on a real one when I don't have night vision yet, and some parts are modern equivalents just to have it complete and will be replaced with period correct parts when I find them.

Parts list:
  • Colt Cardinal forge upper, 75th RR surplus
  • Colt 14.5" M4 profile barrel, 2007 date code
  • Colt bcg
  • PRI Gasbuster charging handle
  • A.R.M.S. #50M-CV, tan anodized, AFSOC surplus from 2007-2009
  • A.R.M.S. #40L, tan anodized, Crane surplus from the BIS II testing circa 2005
  • Eotech SU-231, 2009 date code, surplus
  • Insight SU-233, surplus
  • Insight dual button pressure pad, surplus
  • Somogear chocolate chip PEQ-15
  • Tangodown BGV-MK46 foregrip
  • CQD front sling loop, gen 2
  • Colt AR-15A3 Tactical Carbine lower, AWB era w/ restricted markings
  • Redi-Mag, gen 1.2, LE surplus
  • CQD end plate, gen 2
  • Colt 4 position buffer tube
  • Colt ambi safety
  • Ergo Suregrip
  • VLTOR Modstock w/ SOG buttpad
Last parts I need are an M203 with A.R.M.S. #50-GL brackets (unobtainable), Meprolight GLS on an A.R.M.S. #60 mount (unobtainable), and an NT4 (will be purchasing once I have the money for it).

https://i.imgur.com/V5cUVDE.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/1Bh4Fa1.jpeg

Extra pic in the deployment kit with my 11.5" Blackwater build:

https://i.imgur.com/rEeH33N.jpeg

Some more pics of the Blackwater rifle on its own:

https://i.imgur.com/urXiqXQ.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/pwCMwNV.jpeg
https://i.imgur.com/8qd4LtF.jpeg

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Nice
9/1/2026 11:49:45 PM EDT
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Well my curiosity got the best of me
Ordered one of those broken eBay sights
This may be next lol
I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet
9/2/2026 8:43:06 AM EDT
[#16]
Made a few final tweaks, I think I am done with my proto xm177e3 for now. Except for finding a more period correct light for a 2000-2001ish build, the tlr1 was introduced in 2006, the x200 in 2004.



9/2/2026 3:25:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BeaterHonda][Edited] [#17]
What light pairs with a m4a1 w/ M203?
I own a handful of Arisaka m300/600 variants but I’d like to be more clone correct than that. Not trying to be too autist here but is there some rhyme or reason to m951 vs 952?
Other more realistic (cheaper? lol) ideas?

Was there a rhyme or reason for different lights paired with different optics? IE acog vs comp m2? Moreso Unit dependent?
I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet
9/2/2026 5:54:48 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BeaterHonda:
What light pairs with a m4a1 w/ M203?
I own a handful of Arisaka m300/600 variants but I’d like to be more clone correct than that. Not trying to be too autist here but is there some rhyme or reason to m951 vs 952?
Other more realistic (cheaper? lol) ideas?

Was there a rhyme or reason for different lights paired with different optics? IE acog vs comp m2? Moreso Unit dependent?
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The biggest M952 with heat sink and IR filter.

Lights were both issued and acquired. Some units were anal about equipment and the location it was mounted, some weren't.
Why is the sky blue?
What makes the green grass grow?
9/2/2026 8:48:26 PM EDT
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22-26'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,-21'
9/4/2026 8:53:42 AM EDT
[#20]
Man I'm getting frustrated with the lack of gwot stuff out there for sale.

I want to polish the mp5 off with a full-size aimpoint or even the pa clone that got discontinued.  Ain't shit out there or it's stupid expensive.
9/4/2026 9:21:37 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Into_the_Void:
Man I'm getting frustrated with the lack of gwot stuff out there for sale.

I want to polish the mp5 off with a full-size aimpoint or even the pa clone that got discontinued.  Ain't shit out there or it's stupid expensive.
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Around 2018-2020 you could find 3 or 4 S&B Shortdot PMII 1.1-4s for sale at any given time, scattered across the internet. The prices were certainly fair.  Same with NF 2.5-10x24s. M952vs were still pretty cheap. I bought my first used KAC RAS off of ebay for a benny. (I sold a VLTOR CASV M Stepped for it )

I wish I hadn't slept on the 2.5-10x24 or the NT4 QDSS for that matter. Those will really hurt whenever/if ever I decide to pull the trigger.



I was able to find this CompM4 for just under $300 recently. Some good deals pop up on ebay every now and then.
9/4/2026 2:00:33 PM EDT
[#22]
I posted this in the Mod H thread, but it's a little too far removed from really being a clone. I call it my Mk12 "Mod. HO". Works for me..
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9/4/2026 2:08:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: New2AR15s][Edited] [#23]


Colt Commando trade in that I recently picked up and then fixed up for the range (hopefully) this weekend

and I finally have an SBR lower now for my inspired builds
9/4/2026 4:16:48 PM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By BlackNoSugar:
I posted this in the Mod H thread, but it's a little too far removed from really being a clone. I call it my Mk12 "Mod. HO". Works for me..
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/463878/P1110734_JPG-3822172.JPG
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I call it fucking awesome
9/4/2026 6:46:53 PM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By Into_the_Void:


I call it fucking awesome
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Thanks brother, lol..
9/4/2026 8:39:25 PM EDT
[#26]
My little SBR has definitely isnt clone correct but is inspired by some of the GWAT MK18 Mod 0 I always loved. I could try to make it correct but I actually like some of my "wrong" parts better than the correct clone stuff. So it stays as it is. Does the "frankengun" belong here?

I like the DD Omega better than my other KAC RIS. Also like the Larue mount better than the Wilcox. Upper is all Colt with a 16" barrel cut down by ADCO. Old school original Colt stock which is so small and light. Fun little gun.

9/4/2026 10:53:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dana:
My little SBR has definitely isnt clone correct but is inspired by some of the GWAT MK18 Mod 0 I always loved. I could try to make it correct but I actually like some of my "wrong" parts better than the correct clone stuff. So it stays as it is. Does the "frankengun" belong here?

I like the DD Omega better than my other KAC RIS. Also like the Larue mount better than the Wilcox. Upper is all Colt with a 16" barrel cut down by ADCO. Old school original Colt stock which is so small and light. Fun little gun.

https://i.imgur.com/AnE13q8.jpeg
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I think it belongs.
The powers to be have not kicked me out yet!!
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“Did you mash up a bunch of parts from your bin that might have been used in the wild?
This is the thread for you.

If it's in the wild or made by a known military supplier (KAC, DD, G, etc.) game on.  
Optics, go crazy.  The reality is strike eagles are being used downrange, …..Post pictures, talk about parts, have fun.”
9/5/2026 3:21:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BeaterHonda][Edited] [#28]
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Originally Posted By Into_the_Void:
Man I'm getting frustrated with the lack of gwot stuff out there for sale.

I want to polish the mp5 off with a full-size aimpoint or even the pa clone that got discontinued.  Ain't shit out there or it's stupid expensive.
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Is a vortex strikefire II similar enough to a CompM2?
I’m on the hunt for a cheap m952
I wouldn't stand in front of a piss-filled supersoaker. Does that make it a good pistol? - Caboose314
I thought I was covered for 22 cans, but the NFAids is a bitch when it mutates - themagikbullet
9/5/2026 4:45:49 PM EDT
[#29]
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Originally Posted By schweiz:


I think it belongs.
The powers to be have not kicked me out yet!!
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“Did you mash up a bunch of parts from your bin that might have been used in the wild?
This is the thread for you.

If it's in the wild or made by a known military supplier (KAC, DD, G, etc.) game on.  
Optics, go crazy.  The reality is strike eagles are being used downrange, …..Post pictures, talk about parts, have fun.”
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Originally Posted By schweiz:
Originally Posted By dana:
My little SBR has definitely isnt clone correct but is inspired by some of the GWAT MK18 Mod 0 I always loved. I could try to make it correct but I actually like some of my "wrong" parts better than the correct clone stuff. So it stays as it is. Does the "frankengun" belong here?

I like the DD Omega better than my other KAC RIS. Also like the Larue mount better than the Wilcox. Upper is all Colt with a 16" barrel cut down by ADCO. Old school original Colt stock which is so small and light. Fun little gun.

https://i.imgur.com/AnE13q8.jpeg


I think it belongs.
The powers to be have not kicked me out yet!!
Page 1- Post  1

“Did you mash up a bunch of parts from your bin that might have been used in the wild?
This is the thread for you.

If it's in the wild or made by a known military supplier (KAC, DD, G, etc.) game on.  
Optics, go crazy.  The reality is strike eagles are being used downrange, …..Post pictures, talk about parts, have fun.”


As OP I approve of any and all gwot fuckery.
9/5/2026 4:46:41 PM EDT
[#30]
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Originally Posted By BeaterHonda:

Is a vortex strikefire II similar enough to a CompM2?
I’m on the hunt for a cheap m952
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Originally Posted By BeaterHonda:
Originally Posted By Into_the_Void:
Man I'm getting frustrated with the lack of gwot stuff out there for sale.

I want to polish the mp5 off with a full-size aimpoint or even the pa clone that got discontinued.  Ain't shit out there or it's stupid expensive.

Is a vortex strikefire II similar enough to a CompM2?
I’m on the hunt for a cheap m952


Not with the buttons.

I just scored a relatively cheap 6p.  Bitch is chonk on the mp5

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9/5/2026 5:26:28 PM EDT
[#31]
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Originally Posted By BeaterHonda:

Is a vortex strikefire II similar enough to a CompM2?
I’m on the hunt for a cheap m952
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I think cheap M952s are kind.of gone.

But Aimpoints should still be cheap. Its been a while but my CompM2 was i think under $300. If nothing else a used Aimpoint Pro should be around that.
9/5/2026 5:36:32 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Into_the_Void:


Not with the buttons.

I just scored a relatively cheap 6p.  Bitch is chonk on the mp5

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/220444/1000017026_jpg-3822727.JPG
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A old trijicon RX30 would be kind of cool on that. I used to have one. Kind.of wish i had kept it on some kind of fun range gun.

A lot of the older "vintage" optics are so hard to justify for me. I really liked the RX30. But for real use something like a PRO is better. The RX30 is fun so i considered putting it on a 22 sbr. But then i have a $400 optic tied up on a $400 gun where a walmart red dot would work. Really i s h ould just accept that there is no point in trying to use logic. Just build what you like for fun. I wish i had kept a bunch of my older optics. But selling stuff off is the only way i can aford newer nicer stuff.
9/6/2026 12:42:17 PM EDT
[#33]
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Originally Posted By Into_the_Void:
Man I'm getting frustrated with the lack of gwot stuff out there for sale.

I want to polish the mp5 off with a full-size aimpoint or even the pa clone that got discontinued.  Ain't shit out there or it's stupid expensive.
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A PRO is almost identical if AP still makes them.  The hard part is finding the correct cowitness mount AP ring, even though they came in the box with every old Aimpoint.

It's a shame, because you know tons of this stuff is sitting in closets or has just been thrown in the trash.  It's sadly the nature of many "enthusiast" things.  No one wants things that are 10 years old but when they get 20-30 years old and are scarce everyone wants them again and the guys who saved them want the $.
9/6/2026 1:20:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Into_the_Void:
Man I'm getting frustrated with the lack of gwot stuff out there for sale.

I want to polish the mp5 off with a full-size aimpoint or even the pa clone that got discontinued.  Ain't shit out there or it's stupid expensive.
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@Into_the_Void

What you after specifically man?

Comp M2? M3? PRO?  Price range you're after?
9/6/2026 1:51:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dunderway:
A PRO is almost identical if AP still makes them.  The hard part is finding the correct cowitness mount AP ring, even though they came in the box with every old Aimpoint.

It's a shame, because you know tons of this stuff is sitting in closets or has just been thrown in the trash.  It's sadly the nature of many "enthusiast" things.  No one wants things that are 10 years old but when they get 20-30 years old and are scarce everyone wants them again and the guys who saved them want the $.
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And here I sit on 3 NIW QRP mounts that I don’t need
De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22-26'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,-21'
9/6/2026 10:49:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dana:


A old trijicon RX30 would be kind of cool on that. I used to have one. Kind.of wish i had kept it on some kind of fun range gun.

A lot of the older "vintage" optics are so hard to justify for me. I really liked the RX30. But for real use something like a PRO is better. The RX30 is fun so i considered putting it on a 22 sbr. But then i have a $400 optic tied up on a $400 gun where a walmart red dot would work. Really i s h ould just accept that there is no point in trying to use logic. Just build what you like for fun. I wish i had kept a bunch of my older optics. But selling stuff off is the only way i can aford newer nicer stuff.
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C-Mores are a perfect fit on MP5s in my opinion
Collector, historian, and enthusiast of A.R.M.S. rails, mounts, and accessories.
9/8/2026 4:13:29 PM EDT
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RIP TSgt Jason Norton and SSgt Brian McElroy. KIA 22 Jan 06, near Taji, Iraq.
LaRue Armorer, Colt 1911 Armorer, Colt M16/AR15 Armorer, Glock Armorer
9/9/2026 12:26:30 AM EDT
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The FDE furniture is pure 2000s drip lol

Nice rifles!
9/9/2026 9:27:05 AM EDT
[#39]



Mock up of a spare parts build. AKA the Gordon we have at home.
PSA: The pin holes on the surplus Colt barrels from Wetworx don't line up with FSBs.

I can't figure out what kind of gas block was used in conjunction with the holes. I plan to swap this barrel into the block II with a low pro gas block and put the socom barrel, where the FSB came from, into this basic build. Also, the collar in the pic is way off center and just a paper weight at this point. I'll need to measure the socom barrel and order the appropriate 7x7 from AE.
9/11/2026 8:50:10 PM EDT
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The FDE furniture is pure 2000s drip lol

Nice rifles!
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The FDE furniture is pure 2000s drip lol

Nice rifles!


I feel attacked

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9/16/2026 11:05:20 AM EDT
[#41]

We're gonna party like it's 2010
9/16/2026 3:23:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: schweiz][Edited] [#42]
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Originally Posted By BeaterHonda:

Is a vortex strikefire II similar enough to a CompM2?
I’m on the hunt for a cheap m952
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@BeaterHonda
Thoroughbred just got SF 951 fat body, 951 gen 2 and 952V-TN lights in at $155-175 That's better than i have seen in a while
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