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Posted: 3/12/2007 11:27:11 AM EDT
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Ok, thinking about buying some "canned heat" to shoot before I get up to speed on reloading, anyone have any experience with this company good or bad? Thanks for the help. Parker44 |
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Check out this link. Hope it helps. www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=16&t=317196 Thrackmoor |
| Ran 100rds of .45 through a new 1911 (break in) and a a couple of mags through a PT745 yesterday, no problem. Also ran 150rds of .223 through an new AR15, also no problem. The link mentioned several old problems, but a lot of good news, also. I first bought a bag of 50 ea .380 auto and .45 auto caliber at a gun show to check it out, and had no problems. Maybe try a small bag first. I think this is the same stuff as the canned heat - just smaller quantites - perhaps someone else has a comment on that - or call GA Arms and ask them. |
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GA Canned Heat 5.56 blows up guns. PERIOD. If you run it through your AR & it KB's, you will have one hell of a time trying to get GA to replace/repair your rifle. Go over to GetOffTheX.com and look around. Register & do a search. Jesus - it's f'n scary stuff, gents. Why would anyone even consider using this junk in expensive weapons? Let alone rolling the dice on injuring yourself or a buddy? Why? To save a few bucks? Not even remotely worth it. Spring for newly manufactured ammo from reputable outfits. |
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I've been shooting their .223 and .308 since they were called North Georgia Ammo, and that was many years ago. Thousands and thousands of rounds. I've NEVER had a case failure,kaboom, or anything through a variety of weapons. I've killed more deer with their Precision Plus .308 than I can remember. Your rifle can just as easily blow up from a 25.00 box of factory fresh ammo, as it could from Georgia Arms ammo. |
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We're talking about Georgia Arms Canned Heat 5.56 in this thread. Their other stuff may be fine, I couldn't care less about it. The Canned Heat stuff is Bad News. I've never heard more bad things about ANY other ammo than GA's CH. The stuff is dangerous junk. Like I said - go over to GetOffTheX.com. Register (you have to register in order to view the forum). Search around for info on GA's CH. You will find all kinds of horror stories. Sure - other ammo could easily cause a KB. Why roll the dice when the odds are so lousy with GA CH?? Doesn't make one bit of sense. Buy new ammo produced by a reputable outfit. |
I have been shooting Georgia Arms Canned Heat (G223B) for at least 5 years now. It was $75 per 500 round can back then. I see it's up to $125 per $500 now.  I buy two 500 round cans every gun show, which usually equals out to around 2000 - 3000 rounds a year. I am usually out within 2 months. I have had exceptional accuracy for such inexpensive ammo, and it's all I shoot when I have it. I have three shooting buddies who also use it almost exclusively in their ARs, and none of us have EVER "blown up" our ARs.  I'd have to know a LOT more about the particulars of all these "KB"s before I switch ammo choices.  P.S. - GA Arms Canned Heat G223B 55gr FMJ is NOT 5.56. It's .223. |
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As always, YMMV - but I have been shooting GA .223 for two years and I too have had no issues, so far. That certainly doesn't mean I won't - and the accounts of KB's certainly got my attention. I have been primarily shooting the CH through my Remington 700P bolt gun, however and not any of my AR's. I have plenty of milsurp left for the AR rifles. But would really expect the GA CH to be "worse" than the PD series "floor sweepings" ammo everyone was buying a while back? I mean some of that ammo looked rode hard and put away wet. Lots of round dented all to hell, bullets set way back, etc. And, are we really safer shooting surplus ammo from third-world countries? I don't know. I haveno heard of any instances of Guat blowing up guns, yet. But there has been some close calls with the Arab stuff. |
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I'll say it again - if you guys want to know about GA KB's, go over to GetOffTheX.com. Take afew minutes & register (you have to in order to view the forum). Then do a little searching. I gauran-damn-tee you it won't take long. At least 5~6 members there have had serious KB's with the stuff - and GA just goes into the "hummna hummna I-can't-hear-you-I-can't-hear-you hummna hummna" routine. Alternately, go to M4carbine.net. Plenty of info there as well. Just Do It SCARY STUFF, Gents.hock.gif |
To quote Marshall Lucky for New Deal Used Cars (Garret Graham from the movie "Used Cars", do a You Tube Search for Used Cars (1980) Commercial) "THAT'S TOO F****** HIGH!" just before he blew the Mercedes to smitherenes. I just bought 500 rounds of new production Winchester Q3131A at Cabelas and only paid $189.00 INCLUDING the sales tax. |
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I have shot about 1300 rounds of the Georgia Arms Canned Heat .223 caliber 55 grain reloads in my AR-15s. I have had no problems with them. At the last gun show I bought another 1000 rounds of the above ammo. The only complaint is that the prices like the other ammo is going up way to fast. I also shot a little over 1000 rounds iof their .45 cal ACP 230 grain reload ammo with no problems in my 1911's. I have shot about 30 rounds of the .45 cal ACP 185 grain +P new ammo without any problems. I really do like this 185 grain ammo. |
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First of all Canned Heat is not 5.56 spec. Uses nice brass with NATO crosses but it runs about 200fps less than what M193 averages. I have shot thousands or rounds of Canned Heat-no problems what so ever. I did receve a lot of 500 that was just about all head stamped "FCC" which is the brass you want to avoid for reloading. I don't know for some reason I smell a 
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Whatever. Did any of you even bother to go have a look on the other forums? Sure - my post count here is low. However, take a look at how long I've been a member here. I'm just trying to give folks a heads-up. For that I'm a troll? I spend my time elsewhere - for good reason, evidently. The ammo price thread is the only thing worth looking at over here. This place certainly lives up to it's reputation - in spades. Go ahead and run the stuff through your rifles. I don't know any of you, so I don't really care. I don't know why I even bothered. Go ahead - wreck a perfectly good rifle. Burn your face. Lacerate your hands. FWIW, today I orderd a few thousand rounds of 55 Gr factory stuff from an online retailer who sells ammo produced by reputable manufacturer. I found them here on ARFCOM. I paid a little more than I would've if I was willing to settle for GA CH, but my face & hands are priceless - as are those of my training & shooting buddies. It's called Peace Of Mind, gents. |
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For example, here: www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=2945 |
I have had very good experience with GA. I have also been a member here on the board for a while and I have seen my share of posters who will tear down one manufacture and laude another, only to find out that the poster has alterior motives. I am now reading some of the posts on m4carbine and I am now wondering what to do with the rest of my Canned Heat. Honestly though, if you look at all of the Canned Heat that is shot over a years period and if during that time 6-10 guns go kaboom, honestly that is pretty amazing. Not to mention if you buy surplus ammo (Radway/Guat/SA) and it caused your rifle to kaboom you are SOL. What we should really be doing is inspecting all of our ammo (hell just last week at a North Carolina shoot we found a Wolf .223 round that had the case split 1/3 of the way down and it wasn't even fired). The smart thing for alll of us to do is go through each round and look for defects and to weigh each round to make sure there is no changes in weights. |
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I just test fired 20 rounds of their Precision Plus ammo just to see if they were pretty accurate out of my ARs that I use on a Rat hunt. They grouped great at 100 yards....I was going to purchase 2000 rounds of their canned heat version as they said the canned heat is loaded exactly the same as their precision plus rounds, except for the used brass..... The price is great for 55 grain BT, so I wanted to save 100 bux per 1000 over Blackhills Remans. Now I am real concerned.....I have shot several thousand Blackhills without any problems what so ever.....but I am real concerned about GA. Any advice? |
A lot of he-said/she-said concerning the ammo. I'll go on the experience I've had with GA, which has been overwhelmingly positive. And, just to remind everyone, that US made, factory spec .mil ammo has cause a whole bunch of kabooms over the years. Should we be concerned? No ammo is perfect folks. None. |
+1 No firearm is either Agreed. The same people screamed bloody murder when CETME's kaboomed due to improper headspacing. I said it before, I'll say it again, I've been buying and shooting Georgia Arms ammo since they were called North Georgia Ammo...many years back. Canned heat, Precision plus, all of it. I've fired thousands of rounds and never had one problem with it. I have 2 cans of .223 canned heat in my stash, and going to add another soon. People buy ammo from Russia, China, India, South Africa and Timbucktwo, manufactured to uneven standards by unscrupulous and often crooked governments, but beat on a company that you can actually call on the telephone. If you don't want to buy it, don't....more for me. |
Agreed. The true difference, however, comes in how the manufacturers handle it when the KB is the fault of their ammo. Read the threads again and see how GA has handled them I'll agree that the ammo (and reloading) forums are about all that is worth reading here these days. |
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