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Posted: 11/18/2006 9:26:46 AM EDT
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I am getting my shopping list ready for a new build, and have no idea for a scope. There is a 700 yd range that I am planning of going to soon, alot, and I need some ideas for the glass. I would like something clear, but I CANNOT drop $1000+ on a recreational optic. My dream scope would be 2-14x50mm w/ external windage and elevation turrets, illuminated, and good glass for about $100. But thats in a perfect world were there's a walgreens on every corner. I want something with good magnification for long range, if it had a low power setting for close range that would be awesome. It would be great to have external windage and elevation turrets and possibly illuminated.A 40mm objective lens and 1" tube is preferred. I really don't wanna spend more than $500, like I said it's just for recreation and a 3-9x40 nikon would be fine but something with the extra accessories would make it easier for my lazy a$$. Dmgangl |
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Pretty steep set of requirements... finding the features you want at the price you want isn't impossible, but finding them at a quality level where it won't be waste of money might be. A couple scopes that I've used personally out to at least 600yds for NRA HP/F-Class, varminting, and 'practical' rifle matches... Weaver V-16 w/ duplex reticle. If you have to have variable power, 1" tube, 42mm objective, and target turrets (albeit low profile & under caps), these work pretty good for a little under $300 The ubiquitous 'Super Sniper' scopes, now marketed by SWFA.com. Fixed 10x, 16x, or 20x. Mil-dot reticle, 30mm tube, 42mm obj, external target turrets... and built like a brick out house. Once you clean the marine/salt-spray-resistant grease off the O-rings on the insides of the caps (legacy of the original build spec) and replace it w/ some spark plug boot grease... these are some damn fine scopes for $300 ($400 if you want side focus). The optics are good enoug for most people (especially if you are financially limited) not trying to shoot at dusk/night, the mechanism tracks accurately (utmost importance to me), and as I mentioned, they are pretty tough all around. Other people have had good reports on the Nikon Buckmaster 4.5-14x... 1" tube, side focus, 40-42mm obj, mil-dot reticle, and low profile target turrets under caps, again just under $300. None are the absolute best scopes in the world, but if the means for an IOR/NXS/USO/S&B just ain't there (and trust me, I understand completely), they'll get you in the game. |
+1 on the Buckmaster. I have the 4.5x14x40 SF sitting on a 300 Weatherby. Nice clear optics. Doesn't seem to mind the Weatherby's kick. Good scope for the money. Mine was $249+SH at Optic Zone. I am a big fan of Nikon scopes in general. They are good value for us poor folk that have to choose between gun stuff and food/rent. ZM |
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Oh I understand completely that Iam asking for an IOR at a nikon price, and fully understand thats impossible. The thing is I could do it all with just a Nikon 3-9x40 for $200 and be fine, I just hopeing I could get a few extra options. I was prabably going to get the Nikon. I guess the main accessory for the scope would be illumination. Most of the time the range is open from araound noon till dusk and I don't know which way it faces so it may be pretty dark through the scope. The other thing would be the external windage and elevation, I just don't wanna use kentucky windage all day. Thanks anything else I don't know of? dmgangl |
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I would look at the IOR hunting line. Maybe this one, it's 15" long though: www.riflescopes.com/products/IOR414X50HILL/ior_4-14x50_hunting_30mm_rifle_scope.htm |
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I suggest you look at the Nikon Monarch 6.5-20X44. It has target knobs for windage and elevation, adjustabel objective, comes with a sun shade, is a 1 inch tube and you can find it for less than $500. I have one of those scopes, it is awsome. Best of all, it's a Nikon, the best glass at its price and above. I believe there is even an illuminated reticle model. I just checked at swfa. com and they have a special on the Nikon 6.5-20X44 with illuminated Mildot reticle: $449. It's number 6605. |
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I would love an IOR, but I can't justify having a scope that cost almost twice as much as the rifle its going on. (savage model 10) Thank you all for your input. With alot of investagating I have decided to go with the Super Sniper 10x42 30mm tactical model www.swfa.com/pc-4305-231-super-sniper-10x42-30mm-rifle-scope.aspx |
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But it's $50 more than the 10X42 Super Sniper, so it lost out. |
It's $150 more, not $50. |
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The SS10x42M is listed at swfa.com for $399.95. The Nikon 6.5-20X44 with illuminated Mildot reticle and target knobs is listed at swfa.com for $449.95. One heck of a deal if you ask me. Now, let's go to the calculator... $449.95 minus 399.95 equals, wait for it... $50. But the decision has already been made, so why are we even arguing? |
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SWFA.COM is one heck of a good place to do business. I would call them in the morning and see if the can extand the special price for you. I have a 2.5-10X44 Nikon Tactical on my Precision Rifle. I use it in F-class competition at 300 to 1000 yards. I did not originally buy the scope for that purpose, but I found that I could adjust all the way to 1000 yards without a special base. I also thought that I could compete in F-class with a 10X. It is extremely clear, bright, has superb resolution and excellent color fidelity. Unfortunately, I have come to the realization that 10X won't cut it come January. Why? Because the X ring which was already small, is now going to be 1.5 inches in diameter, coming down from the 2 inch that we had been using up to now. During the last outing, I shot a high 58x score with over a dozen Xs. In tactical class, that isn't too bad. But I am now shooting at the limit of the scope, I need more magnification. The same goes for all the ranges, I need to be able to see the half MOA X-ring and I need to be able to do adjust finer than 1/4 MOA click. Yes, my rifle and the ammunition is that precise, I am not. As luck would have it, I have a Nikon 6.5-20X44 on another higly precise rifle and I will be testing it out at the next match at a short 300 yard course. If it works out for me, I will steal that scope off that rifle and move it to my Precision Rifle. I have already found a 20MOA mount at Brownells for the 1000 yard course. I already have my eye on a 10-40X50 off brand scope that a friend of mine is using to good success. If the 20X is not powerful enough, I may just have to jump on that one, again, with the 20 MOA mount. As was stated earlier, the US military uses 10X as the maximum power for sniping, or so we are told. For shooting at man-size targets out to 1000 yards, I think that is very proper. For shooting the little bitty X-rings at any distance, 10X just doesn't cut it for me and my aging eyes. So, when you said you
So, if SWFA.com will honor their price into January, I would highly recommend that you consider this scope, the glass alone is far superrior to the Tasco Super Sniper and the magnification range is much better than the Tasco's. But, the bottom line is, it's your decision I just wanted to help you make an informed one. |
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