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6/21/2003 5:22:17 AM EDT
Newbie here. Wondering if you all can tell me the pros and cons to an HBAR. Thanks
6/21/2003 5:52:52 AM EDT
[#1]
Supposed to be more accurate than thinner pencil barrels, but you pay for it in weight.
6/21/2003 5:54:25 AM EDT
[#2]
Pro: They heat up slower.

Con: They're unnecessarily heavy for a 5.56
6/21/2003 8:20:03 AM EDT
[#3]
Cheaper for the manufacturer to produce is about the only real benefit of the HBAR.  [;)]  Unless you're planning on some extended full-auto fire, the lighter profile barrel has no negatives.  Reprofiling HBAR's to a lightweight configuration is a mainstay of the AR gunsmithing community...

[img]img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-3/122167/BCQLRVWSAKNVVYJDKUJS-KKF02.jpg[/img]
6/21/2003 3:56:50 PM EDT
[#4]
By your logic, the increase cost to manufacture, or re-work a HBAR, to light weight profile, would be a negative.
6/21/2003 7:18:03 PM EDT
[#5]
I prefer the HBAR myself.  I had the choice of building an M4gery or a 6721 copy -- I went with the 6721.  If guys complain that a 16" HBAR carbine is too heavy, I think they should hit the gym...



[baby]
6/21/2003 7:27:45 PM EDT
[#6]
They all start out fat.  They are then turned down to HBAR, or A2, or pencil thin, as needed.
6/21/2003 8:07:29 PM EDT
[#7]
Sorry, I know I'm new but I HATE the H-Bar.

The whole reason I started my interest into M16's, AR15's etc. was because I admired how such a light-weight weapon was so powerful.

Whenever I am in a gun shop, all they have to sell are H bars.  Holding one is a pure contradiction to everything I've ever thought of regarding M16's (AR15's..)  I'm a right handed shooter.  Holding that gold-bar weight in my left hand seems completely ridiculous to me.  

I admit that if H-Bars weren't so popular, they wouldn't be stocked as they are in stores, but the FIRST consideration I had in looking for a firearm was LIGHT WEIGHT.  

Sorry, I may have pissed some people off here, but a heavy barrel ruins the whole point behind the M16/AR15 in MY opinion.  I bought an M4 type which may not be the lightest, but it's like cotton compared to the 20" H-bars that people are buying now.


Anthony
6/21/2003 8:30:51 PM EDT
[#8]
IMHO A2 Gov't balances a lot better.
6/21/2003 9:59:57 PM EDT
[#9]
In carbine/CQB arms, the down side of the Hbar/ any added weight is the decrease in speed with which the weapon "points".  Swinging more weight to "on target" decreases the speed w/ which "getting on target" can occur.  The added inertia, however small, also makes slowing/stopping "on target"  more diffficult.  I don't think the real issue w/ Hbars is the added overall weight.  It's the added mass/weight toward the muzzle of the weapon.  Fighting arms should be as light as possible/practical for that reason.
If its not a fighting arm, don't worry.  Unless the added weight just bothers you.
6/22/2003 5:39:52 AM EDT
[#10]
My Colt 16" HBar
[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL99/1184889/2242371/27098843.jpg[/img]

My Bushmaster 16" HBar turned down to LW specs with KKF A2 FFS/T installed.
[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL99/1184889/2242371/27098817.jpg[/img]

I prefer Colts to Bushmasters hands down, but guess which one gets shot and which one spends most of its time in a gun sock in my safe?

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