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2/9/2011 6:51:18 PM EDT
I bought a slighty used LMT 2 stage trigger off EE and was going to install it but as soon as I took it out of the packaging I noticed the J spring was not installed in the hammer.
So I did some research and it  seems that it cannot be reinstalled without the possiblity of it falling out again. Is this true?
I found this thread for some info
http://forum.pafoa.org/gunsmithing-44/112648-serious-ar-trigger-issue-page-3.html

Thanks in advance for the help.

2/9/2011 8:00:39 PM EDT
[#1]
Bump to top. I haven't seen that happen yet.
2/9/2011 9:05:32 PM EDT
[#2]
happened to me and cmmg overnighted me a whole new two stage trig assembly.. Lewis machine might do the same as no mfg likes j springs falling out as strange thinks happen
2/9/2011 10:48:00 PM EDT
[#3]
This spring is retained by peening the long leg through the hole in the hammer.  Being spring steel, it is very hard to DIY.



Most J springs have a lot of tension, this causes the hammer to grab on the pin which can make trigger pull vary.  I would imagine the prior owner was looking to reduce J spring tension.  If you have the spring, you could try making another out of music wire of the correct diameter, then peening it in place with a notched pin in the pivot hole.  By doing this, you have minimal tension on the spring.




2/10/2011 3:06:16 AM EDT
[#4]
Slid J-spring in place and peen it in place. not hard at all if you take the time and make a fixture to hold the hammer in a sequre postion with a boss to suport the j-spring for peening.
2/10/2011 1:23:41 PM EDT
[#5]
i bought a piece if piano wire from ace and made my own.
it works fine.
if i'd known it was impossible, i wouldn't have done it,.
now i know it can't be done, i'll throw those 2 hammers away.

at one time Colt offered the j hook (the part numbers no good anymore) as a seperate relacement part,so.... it was considered replaceable ...once.
2/10/2011 3:28:48 PM EDT
[#6]
KNS pins should work if you decide not to try to replace the spring.
2/10/2011 3:57:35 PM EDT
[#7]
Wait what??? You are not supposed to take the hammer spring off of the hammer?  I have done this many times to change springs... or am I missing what you guys are talking about???



ETA:  NEVERMIND!  different spring than what I was thinking!
2/10/2011 6:26:07 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
KNS pins should work if you decide not to try to replace the spring.


So do you have to remove the J hook pin to install KNS pins?

2/10/2011 6:56:25 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
KNS pins should work if you decide not to try to replace the spring.


So do you have to remove the J hook pin to install KNS pins?



No, you do not have to remove that spring to install. They don't rely on the J spring to keep them in place. With standard pins, the J spring keeps the hammer pin in place. The hammer spring keeps the trigger pin in place. KNS pins have those bars on the sides, so they do not have grooves in the pins and do not rely on any springs to stay in place.
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