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Posted: 5/19/2024 4:32:40 PM EST
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@mike_nds I will swap every brace I have for one.  |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 3:27:46 PM EST
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Posted: 6/11/2024 3:55:19 PM EST
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same. I've had a spare set of gray H&R receivers, 11" barrel, and shorty triangle handguards with all the little parts sitting in a box for a while waiting on this.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 5:39:39 PM EST
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That's going to be a slick build.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 5:54:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: same. I've had a spare set of gray H&R receivers, 11" barrel, and shorty triangle handguards with all the little parts sitting in a box for a while waiting on this. https://iili.io/JyZWoUx.png |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 5:54:20 PM EST
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I'm ordering one to start. The radius doesn't bother me too much but that big cut out in the stock for the lever to go up in? That is ugly. I wonder if that was the issue with the ATFaggots. Maybe the correct lever can be swapped?
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Posted: 6/11/2024 7:43:50 PM EST
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Sorry. That brace is ugly. The Jackbooted Thugs fucked it all up. Bad.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 8:22:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry. That brace is ugly. The Jackbooted Thugs fucked it all up. Bad. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:04:51 PM EST
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Allows them to sell a true xm177e2 with the 11.5 barrel and is sbr ready. I like it.
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Posted: 6/12/2024 10:32:44 AM EST
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Wasn't in the market for one, but they sold out pretty fast.
Got the email yesterday, and they had them. 
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Posted: 6/13/2024 5:40:48 AM EST
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Thank you for publicly disparaging our product.
A lot of time and effort went into making something that was compliant and reasonably close to the form factor.  Be advised, the locking pin is not threaded. It is a twist lock style. So if you are going to take it apart you need to depress the plunger from the top and then slide the ring down on the shaft and turn it 90 degrees. There are tabs and flats with a clearance cut down the shaft where it can rotate. |
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Posted: 6/13/2024 9:58:01 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorry. That brace is ugly. The Jackbooted Thugs fucked it all up. Bad. The cool thing is if Smegma or other folks think they can do better..... Here is the opportunity to jump on your high fukken horse and do better. But remember, Mike and Company DID IT already. So, fire up your chineeze 3D printer and whack one out. Sell it. Make a million dollhairs. And along the way, stop the negative bullshit on a thread no one asked you to 'opine' on. YMMV Dr. Overkill |
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Posted: 6/13/2024 10:59:33 AM EST
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Keep in mind too that H&R's brace is actually ATF compliant. Not everyone's braces are. I know not everyone cares about that (and we'd all like to see the whole SBR provision go away) but, being that we still have to deal with it right now, it's nice to know theirs is checked off as okay.
Honestly, no CAR brace is going to be the same as a CAR stock. If it bother's someone that much they should just bite the bullet and SBR their build, and put an actual CAR stock on it because well, it looks like a CAR stock, because it is one... |
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Posted: 6/13/2024 12:32:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you for publicly disparaging our product. A lot of time and effort went into making something that was compliant and reasonably close to the form factor. Be advised, the locking pin is not threaded. It is a twist lock style. So if you are going to take it apart you need to depress the plunger from the top and then slide the ring down on the shaft and turn it 90 degrees. There are tabs and flats with a clearance cut down the shaft where it can rotate. Some people just think it should look just like a car stock so they can have their cake and eat it too. Just be happy that pistol braces are a thing or maybe you should get an SBR stamp, I have 4, if you do not like it. Mike went through a lot of trouble to get this one out there. |
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Posted: 6/13/2024 8:20:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some people just think it should look just like a car stock so they can have their cake and eat it too. Just be happy that pistol braces are a thing or maybe you should get an SBR stamp, I have 4, if you do not like it. Mike went through a lot of trouble to get this one out there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thank you for publicly disparaging our product. A lot of time and effort went into making something that was compliant and reasonably close to the form factor. Be advised, the locking pin is not threaded. It is a twist lock style. So if you are going to take it apart you need to depress the plunger from the top and then slide the ring down on the shaft and turn it 90 degrees. There are tabs and flats with a clearance cut down the shaft where it can rotate. Some people just think it should look just like a car stock so they can have their cake and eat it too. Just be happy that pistol braces are a thing or maybe you should get an SBR stamp, I have 4, if you do not like it. Mike went through a lot of trouble to get this one out there.  |
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Posted: 6/13/2024 8:52:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you for publicly disparaging our product. A lot of time and effort went into making something that was compliant and reasonably close to the form factor. Be advised, the locking pin is not threaded. It is a twist lock style. So if you are going to take it apart you need to depress the plunger from the top and then slide the ring down on the shaft and turn it 90 degrees. There are tabs and flats with a clearance cut down the shaft where it can rotate.  I will try swapping the lever.It is a discussion board. Guys discuss stuff, good and bad. PSA has probably had more negative stuff posted about them arfcom than any other company. They respond to it, fix the problem if necessary and move on. Maybe there is no better way to do this. Still better and cheaper than an SB4 brace. |
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Posted: 6/13/2024 9:03:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Some people just think it should look just like a car stock so they can have their cake and eat it too. Just be happy that pistol braces are a thing or maybe you should get an SBR stamp, I have 4, if you do not like it. Mike went through a lot of trouble to get this one out there. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Thank you for publicly disparaging our product. A lot of time and effort went into making something that was compliant and reasonably close to the form factor. Be advised, the locking pin is not threaded. It is a twist lock style. So if you are going to take it apart you need to depress the plunger from the top and then slide the ring down on the shaft and turn it 90 degrees. There are tabs and flats with a clearance cut down the shaft where it can rotate. Some people just think it should look just like a car stock so they can have their cake and eat it too. Just be happy that pistol braces are a thing or maybe you should get an SBR stamp, I have 4, if you do not like it. Mike went through a lot of trouble to get this one out there. People are upset because it changed from teh SHOT show sample. Not substantially but enough to notice. |
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Posted: 6/14/2024 1:41:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just be happy pistol braces are a thing? How about no? We should not be happy to suffer a 2A infringement. PSA/H&R should not have to jump through hoops to make FATF happy. Did you register for free SBR's when they tried to ban braces? People are upset because it changed from teh SHOT show sample. Not substantially but enough to notice. Oh I am right there with you and hope that they can start getting things changed with the recent victories in court. I am all for not needing to get a stamp for anything I own I just do not want to die on that "hill" just yet. |
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Posted: 6/14/2024 3:09:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: A lot of time and effort went into making something that was compliant and reasonably close to the form factor. Mike, My brace arrived today, I'm very happy with it, looks good and is stout. Thank you for your hard work! |
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Posted: 6/14/2024 5:07:46 PM EST
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Posted: 6/14/2024 10:58:29 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Be advised, the locking pin is not threaded. It is a twist lock style. So if you are going to take it apart you need to depress the plunger from the top and then slide the ring down on the shaft and turn it 90 degrees. There are tabs and flats with a clearance cut down the shaft where it can rotate. Ya know, I should have read this thread first before trying to figure it out myself lol. Did the lever swap and I'm digging the look more. Thanks again Mike and crew for all you do! |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 7:45:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya know, I should have read this thread first before trying to figure it out myself lol. Did the lever swap and I'm digging the look more. Thanks again Mike and crew for all you do! Mine are supposed to show up today but I'm laid up from surgery. It will be a week or so before I can mess around with these. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 10:22:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya know, I should have read this thread first before trying to figure it out myself lol. Did the lever swap and I'm digging the look more. Thanks again Mike and crew for all you do! I haven't seen any pics with a lever swap yet. Can you post a photo? |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 10:48:35 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I haven't seen any pics with a lever swap yet. Can you post a photo? What's the deal with the lever swap? Mine seems fine. I am going to put a shinier coating on it to simulate the acetate look. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 10:52:06 AM EST
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I'm curious too now.
Don't shoot me for asking the question, but: will the lever swap change the AFT approval/classification of the brace, if that's something Mike had to change in the first place to get it approved? My braces are shipped, I'll have to look at tracking to see when they'll arrive. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 3:55:16 PM EST
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 I oiled the brace, but will coat it with a beat up gloss finish to simulate the vinyl acetate. |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 4:09:10 PM EST
[#26]
Excellent job
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Posted: 6/15/2024 7:28:36 PM EST
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Looks pretty good I think!
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Posted: 6/15/2024 8:16:48 PM EST
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I thought it pretty good, some jumped on and ordered one as soon as I saw it.
What is with this locking pin thing that was mentioned. Can I just slip on my bigger tube when I get it? |
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Posted: 6/15/2024 10:15:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought it pretty good, some jumped on and ordered one as soon as I saw it. What is with this locking pin thing that was mentioned. Can I just slip on my bigger tube when I get it? Our brace will go on a standard milspec tube. The locking pin information is for those who would attempt rebuild it with an original style lever. H&R does not endorse, nor encourage any modifications to this product. I simply gave that information as a caution so that people don’t wreck it and then try to send it back for a refund or replacement. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 9:20:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.postimg.cc/76Bv4qG9/PXL-20240615-204318244.jpg I oiled the brace, but will coat it with a beat up gloss finish to simulate the vinyl acetate. Looks great! |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 9:28:16 AM EST
[#31]
That looks really good.
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Posted: 6/16/2024 7:33:43 PM EST
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Well, dammit, time to find a 4-position buffer tube and rebuild the 733...
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Posted: 6/16/2024 8:01:39 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, dammit, time to find a 4-position buffer tube and rebuild the 733... LMT might still have them on sale. I picked up a few a while ago. Like 20 bucks a peice. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 8:11:31 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.postimg.cc/76Bv4qG9/PXL-20240615-204318244.jpg I oiled the brace, but will coat it with a beat up gloss finish to simulate the vinyl acetate. |
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Posted: 6/16/2024 8:16:50 PM EST
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Well crap, I gotta.have one of those
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Posted: 6/16/2024 10:44:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.postimg.cc/76Bv4qG9/PXL-20240615-204318244.jpg I oiled the brace, but will coat it with a beat up gloss finish to simulate the vinyl acetate. Very nice! |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 2:35:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thank you for publicly disparaging our product. A lot of time and effort went into making something that was compliant and reasonably close to the form factor. Be advised, the locking pin is not threaded. It is a twist lock style. So if you are going to take it apart you need to depress the plunger from the top and then slide the ring down on the shaft and turn it 90 degrees. There are tabs and flats with a clearance cut down the shaft where it can rotate. I for one thank you. Ordered four! |
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Posted: 6/18/2024 4:16:09 PM EST
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I'm going to buy one! But! It has to be Attached to a DOE H&R Pistol!
I can hardly wait for that to come out. It is the one gun this year I am truly excited about. |
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Posted: 6/18/2024 5:38:53 PM EST
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Mine came today. I think they look pretty good.
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Posted: 6/18/2024 5:55:40 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine came today. I think they look pretty good. Same here, looks good to me. |
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Posted: 6/18/2024 8:35:56 PM EST
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Got mine today, slapped it on my Pistol, have to say looks nice. And a fair price too. My favorite looking brace.
6-19 Got a picture of it today.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/18/2024 8:53:30 PM EST
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My 2 showed up today. They are stout. A good thing. The other option on the market had cracking issues.
When I get on my feet, I plan ot try swapping the lever. Also, nice and tight on the buffer tube. No rattle. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 12:42:15 PM EST
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I just got mine today. And in all honesty, I don't like it. I knew it was a blade style going in. I like the look. It is almost exactly the same size and dimensions as my CAR stock. I find it painful to use when it occasionally touches my shoulder. It's the height of the back and that pointy corner at the bottom. With heavy clothes it could be alright, but with a T-shirt it's not comfortable. I've previously been using a Tippmann T5 brace (take off from my micro bugout elite). For the $40 I paid for it, I'll throw it in a parts bin. Maybe do a xm177 .22lr build with it.
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Posted: 6/26/2024 2:25:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My 2 showed up today. They are stout. A good thing. The other option on the market had cracking issues. When I get on my feet, I plan ot try swapping the lever. Also, nice and tight on the buffer tube. No rattle. I know guys are swapping that lever out, and it does look better, but I'm not so sure its a good idea. Mike and the H&R crew specifically had to change that to get the brace approved by ATF. ATF wanted it to sit flatter against the arm according to Mike's post I believe. So swapping it back puts it in a config that ATF wouldn't approve. I dunno, I know a lot of guys don't care, and probably nothing would ever come of it, I just don't want to see anyone get jammed up by an honest mistake. I just wouldn't post pics of it if I did it, lol! I'm leaving mine as is. If I want the full CAR look I'll SBR whatever it is and put a stock on it. |
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Posted: 6/26/2024 4:45:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I find it painful to use when it occasionally touches my shoulder. It's the height of the back and that pointy corner at the bottom. Ha! You really wouldn't like shooting that 7.62x39 10.5" build I posted above! Luckily I'm a dirty inky and the bruise doesn't show. |
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Posted: 6/28/2024 9:47:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm going to buy one! But! It has to be Attached to a DOE H&R Pistol! I can hardly wait for that to come out. It is the one gun this year I am truly excited about. 
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Posted: 6/29/2024 8:00:37 AM EST
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I took my rebuilt N23A1 out yesterday with the H&R brace. It's .300 Blackout and I was shooting supersonics. I didn't think it was bad.
Also had out my 635 clone, which is actually the first time I really got to shoot it other than a quick test fire. I thought it was super pleasant to shoot. That has a stock, not a brace, but still, recoil seemed minimal to me. Hardly over a .22. |
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Posted: 6/29/2024 9:07:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know guys are swapping that lever out, and it does look better, but I'm not so sure its a good idea. Mike and the H&R crew specifically had to change that to get the brace approved by ATF. ATF wanted it to sit flatter against the arm according to Mike's post I believe. So swapping it back puts it in a config that ATF wouldn't approve. I dunno, I know a lot of guys don't care, and probably nothing would ever come of it, I just don't want to see anyone get jammed up by an honest mistake. I just wouldn't post pics of it if I did it, lol! I'm leaving mine as is. If I want the full CAR look I'll SBR whatever it is and put a stock on it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My 2 showed up today. They are stout. A good thing. The other option on the market had cracking issues. When I get on my feet, I plan ot try swapping the lever. Also, nice and tight on the buffer tube. No rattle. I know guys are swapping that lever out, and it does look better, but I'm not so sure its a good idea. Mike and the H&R crew specifically had to change that to get the brace approved by ATF. ATF wanted it to sit flatter against the arm according to Mike's post I believe. So swapping it back puts it in a config that ATF wouldn't approve. I dunno, I know a lot of guys don't care, and probably nothing would ever come of it, I just don't want to see anyone get jammed up by an honest mistake. I just wouldn't post pics of it if I did it, lol! I'm leaving mine as is. If I want the full CAR look I'll SBR whatever it is and put a stock on it. I'm still laid up so nothing had gotten done on any retro projects. |
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Posted: 7/5/2024 11:49:13 AM EST
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Rebuilt the 733 today (pic here if anybody cares). Had a 4-position in the parts bin from a Tony's Customs stock I bought, used that with a new Doublestar lock ring.
I'm pretty happy with the brace, I think it conveys the overall look well. Of course, anybody who's seen my builds knows that I'm not exactly a stickler for exact clones...  And I'm also in agreement with everyone saying they need one of these on a DOE. And a spare 635 upper...
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Posted: 7/5/2024 3:01:57 PM EST
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Looks great with that brace.
Thanks for the pic. |
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