Hand Stop > AR Pistols

Posted: 4/13/2010 11:48:56 AM EDT

Does anyone know if this qualifies as a vertical grip? It is not designed to be held like a grip and in reality is to small to be held even if that was the design. My thought is its legal on a pistol and looks to be very helpful to help index the hand in the right place on the short rails of a pistol, so as to help prevent blowing your fingers off without using a mag well hold(which I do not like) and breaking the law.

I want to be 100% legal with NO wiggle room or room for interpretation by the .gov or local pd. Thus the question.

On a side note I just joined the club. I just got my upper from spikes and will post pics of my new toy soon.

Posted: 4/13/2010 12:15:08 PM EDT

[#1]

Im curious myself. I was thinking about this yesturday and was going to make a thread before i purchased but yea would like to know the same..

i dont THINK there should be an issue with it because H&K has thme on thier pistols..

Posted: 4/13/2010 12:58:09 PM EDT

[#2]

A hand stop is fine. Just no vertical grips.

Posted: 4/13/2010 1:18:09 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
A hand stop is fine. Just no vertical grips.

I am sure its been asked but what about the magpul afg? Is there a ruling on that?

Posted: 4/13/2010 3:47:22 PM EDT

[#4]

No official ruling. Rumor has it Magpul has written a letter to the ATF. I don't know how true that is. My pistol is already front heavy enough. I have no desire to add more weight to the front of the gun.

Posted: 4/13/2010 7:17:45 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:

A hand stop is fine. Just no vertical grips.

I am sure its been asked but what about the magpul afg? Is there a ruling on that?

I asked the same question a few months ago. The concensus was that it would probably be illegal.

Also, $43.00 for hand stop? That's ridiculous!

Posted: 4/13/2010 7:27:40 PM EDT

[#6]

What about this one?

Ergo Hand Stop $10

Posted: 4/14/2010 12:47:27 PM EDT

[#7]

Quoted:

Quoted:
A hand stop is fine. Just no vertical grips.

I am sure its been asked but what about the magpul afg? Is there a ruling on that?

I asked the same question a few months ago. The concensus was that it would probably be illegal.

Also, $43.00 for hand stop? That's ridiculous!

While I agree the price is rediculous and there are other options, the question remains. Is/are these definately legal? Or is this a grey area, in which case I will stay away.

Posted: 4/14/2010 4:32:13 PM EDT

[#8]

I don't see the gray area. If it is designed as a grip it is illegal unless AOWed or SBRed. If it is designed as a stop it is legal. A bipod is legal, a grip pod is not. A hand stop is legal, a forward grip not parallel to the bore is not. What is the Mag-Pul AFG designed to be used as? A grip. Illegal. No gray area so far as I can tell.

Legal pistol:

Illegal pistol (legal AOW, SBR, MG)

Posted: 4/17/2010 2:55:36 AM EDT

[#9]

Quoted:
What about this one?

http://www.parallaxtactical.com/store/images/IMG_9469.jpg

Ergo Hand Stop $10

Likely going to be frowned upon as it seems to drop quite a bit below the rail and could be gripped pretty easily. I wouldn't use it.

http://www.ergogrips.net/item-detail.cfm?ID=4201-SS&storeid=1&image=surestop.gif&CFID=42314961&CFTOKEN=29883824

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