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2/12/2010 10:12:05 AM EDT
I've read of H, H1, H2 buffers and carrier weight systems. What would happen if a guy was to fill a buffer with lead shot? I'm sure it would be much heavier than a standard buffer. I think someone must have tried it. Would it work?
2/12/2010 11:03:24 AM EDT
[#1]
I almost did this, but then i just went a bought a spikes st-t2 buffer.
2/12/2010 11:13:10 AM EDT
[#2]
IIRC, a 9mm buffer weighs the same as full rifle buffer.  I run one with my BCM Middy and a RRA lower with a CAR stock.  It is very smooth and I haven't experienced any reliability issues.
2/12/2010 11:15:45 AM EDT
[#3]
By the time you buy the lead, disassemble the buffer, get the weight right, reassemble the buffer and factor in your time as a labor charge it's a whole lot cheaper just to buy a buffer. One suggestion though, don't just pick a buffer weight and order one. Test fire starting with H and building up till you find the lightest buffer that will function well.

The Spikes ST-2 is very pretty but a bit pricey. Bravo Company carries plain jane H, H2, and H3 buffers for a reasonable price.
2/12/2010 12:10:17 PM EDT
[#4]
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By the time you buy the lead, disassemble the buffer, get the weight right, reassemble the buffer and factor in your time as a labor charge it's a whole lot cheaper just to buy a buffer. One suggestion though, don't just pick a buffer weight and order one. Test fire starting with H and building up till you find the lightest buffer that will function well.

The Spikes ST-2 is very pretty but a bit pricey. Bravo Company carries plain jane H, H2, and H3 buffers for a reasonable price.


I completely agree with what you are saying about trying your gun(s) with different buffers.  I used tungsten powder to make my own custom weighted buffers.  However, I am not sure why you consider the Spikes ST-T2 to be expensive....it is right in line with the standards from Bravo Company.

Spikes ST-T2 - $30

Bravo - H   -  $23
Bravo - H2  - $30
Bravo - H3  - $38


2/12/2010 12:12:06 PM EDT
[#5]
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By the time you buy the lead, disassemble the buffer, get the weight right, reassemble the buffer and factor in your time as a labor charge it's a whole lot cheaper just to buy a buffer. One suggestion though, don't just pick a buffer weight and order one. Test fire starting with H and building up till you find the lightest buffer that will function well.

The Spikes ST-2 is very pretty but a bit pricey. Bravo Company carries plain jane H, H2, and H3 buffers for a reasonable price.


I have lots of lead shot and spare buffers and I really don't think charging myself for my time is any more realistic than charging myself for my time posting here. Disassembling a buffer is no more involved than driving out a pin. The whole process couldn't take more than 15 minutes.

I don't know how much carrier weight systems weigh, and I don't know if I'll even try this. I'm just thinking it might be another way to achieve the same result as buying something. I guess I'm old school like that. I often prefer to make it myself rather than buy it if I can.

2/12/2010 12:21:51 PM EDT
[#6]
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By the time you buy the lead, disassemble the buffer, get the weight right, reassemble the buffer and factor in your time as a labor charge it's a whole lot cheaper just to buy a buffer. One suggestion though, don't just pick a buffer weight and order one. Test fire starting with H and building up till you find the lightest buffer that will function well.

The Spikes ST-2 is very pretty but a bit pricey. Bravo Company carries plain jane H, H2, and H3 buffers for a reasonable price.


I have lots of lead shot and spare buffers and I really don't think charging myself for my time is any more realistic than charging myself for my time posting here. Disassembling a buffer is no more involved than driving out a pin. The whole process couldn't take more than 15 minutes.

I don't know how much carrier weight systems weigh, and I don't know if I'll even try this. I'm just thinking it might be another way to achieve the same result as buying something. I guess I'm old school like that. I often prefer to make it myself rather than buy it if I can.



I say go for it.  I did the same thing with tungsten powder.
2/12/2010 12:29:00 PM EDT
[#7]
I'm running a 20" Rifle Length on a Carbine Lower and several folks suggested going to a heavier buffer.
2/12/2010 12:29:03 PM EDT
[#8]
Double Tap.  Sorry.
2/12/2010 12:45:23 PM EDT
[#9]



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By the time you buy the lead, disassemble the buffer, get the weight right, reassemble the buffer and factor in your time as a labor charge it's a whole lot cheaper just to buy a buffer. One suggestion though, don't just pick a buffer weight and order one. Test fire starting with H and building up till you find the lightest buffer that will function well.



The Spikes ST-2 is very pretty but a bit pricey. Bravo Company carries plain jane H, H2, and H3 buffers for a reasonable price.




I completely agree with what you are saying about trying your gun(s) with different buffers.  I used tungsten powder to make my own custom weighted buffers.  However, I am not sure why you consider the Spikes ST-T2 to be expensive....it is right in line with the standards from Bravo Company.



Spikes ST-T2 - $30



Bravo - H   -  $23

Bravo - H2  - $30

Bravo - H3  - $38




The RRA 9MM buffer is $25.  It's my carbine buffer of choice.

Things run fine whether there is a rifle or carbine upper on one of my carbine lowers.  YMMV





 
2/12/2010 1:57:27 PM EDT
[#10]
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By the time you buy the lead, disassemble the buffer, get the weight right, reassemble the buffer and factor in your time as a labor charge it's a whole lot cheaper just to buy a buffer. One suggestion though, don't just pick a buffer weight and order one. Test fire starting with H and building up till you find the lightest buffer that will function well.

The Spikes ST-2 is very pretty but a bit pricey. Bravo Company carries plain jane H, H2, and H3 buffers for a reasonable price.


I have lots of lead shot and spare buffers and I really don't think charging myself for my time is any more realistic than charging myself for my time posting here. Disassembling a buffer is no more involved than driving out a pin. The whole process couldn't take more than 15 minutes.

I don't know how much carrier weight systems weigh, and I don't know if I'll even try this. I'm just thinking it might be another way to achieve the same result as buying something. I guess I'm old school like that. I often prefer to make it myself rather than buy it if I can.



I say go for it.  I did the same thing with tungsten powder.


Where did you buy the tungsten powder?
2/13/2010 2:32:31 AM EDT
[#11]
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By the time you buy the lead, disassemble the buffer, get the weight right, reassemble the buffer and factor in your time as a labor charge it's a whole lot cheaper just to buy a buffer. One suggestion though, don't just pick a buffer weight and order one. Test fire starting with H and building up till you find the lightest buffer that will function well.

The Spikes ST-2 is very pretty but a bit pricey. Bravo Company carries plain jane H, H2, and H3 buffers for a reasonable price.


I have lots of lead shot and spare buffers and I really don't think charging myself for my time is any more realistic than charging myself for my time posting here. Disassembling a buffer is no more involved than driving out a pin. The whole process couldn't take more than 15 minutes.

I don't know how much carrier weight systems weigh, and I don't know if I'll even try this. I'm just thinking it might be another way to achieve the same result as buying something. I guess I'm old school like that. I often prefer to make it myself rather than buy it if I can.



I say go for it.  I did the same thing with tungsten powder.


Where did you buy the tungsten powder?


Tungsten is what is needed. I played around with a spare carbine buffer last night trying lead. The standard carbine buffer weighs 2.93 oz. If the whole buffer cavity is filled with lead leaving room for the end plug, it will increase the weight to 4.53oz. This is still less than a 9mm buffer.

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