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Posted: 12/22/2008 2:10:26 PM EDT
Hi all I am new to the boards. I was going to purchase a Bushmaster AR15 .223 but they sold it under me  SO I am looking to get a Stag Arms Model 2. My buddies have the same one and I love it. I wanted to say hi and am reading all the info pages on AR15's to learn more about them. This would be my first AR since I only have a SIG .40 handgun.
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Say goodbye to your savings. Well I have a 2005 STI a high performance car which most of my money went into, but I want to stop putting money into the car and finally buy what I always wanted (AR). The thing that sucks is I wanted one before the whole Obama craze and only now got the money for one. I have $1,100 to spend but still cant find one any anywhere. All the small guns hops are cleaned out. I already have been looking for what I want it to look like and its already in the triple digits lol Yes I do look at it like an investment and a very fun gun to take to the range |
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Quoted: Get ready to be abused.Hi all I am new to the boards. I was going to purchase a Bushmaster AR15 .223 but they sold it under me SO I am looking to get a Stag Arms Model 2. My buddies have the same one and I love it. I wanted to say hi and am reading all the info pages on AR15's to learn more about them. This would be my first AR since I only have a SIG .40 handgun. |
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BUILD ONE ITS SOMEWHAT CHEAPER heres the links. I am in no way saying to buy this stuff...only that it is for sale and can be bought. I am not getting paid to say this nor am I the seller... Offer him more to ship to your FFL http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=22&t=405523 <––––I just saw they are on an 18 week back order...OMFG! |
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I'm going to offer my usual, standard advice to new guys, which is that it is better to stick with buying a complete rifle for your first AR than to try and build one.
Building rifles is fine for people with more experience, but I just don't recommend getting into "Frankentstein" guns until you have cut your teeth on at least one factory new (or used) complete rifle. I first qualified with the M-16 almost 30 years ago, and have been an AR-15 enthusiast ever since, and I STILL don't like "Frankenstein" guns. Welcome to the site. |
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I'm going to offer my usual, standard advice to new guys, which is that it is better to stick with buying a complete rifle for your first AR than to try and build one. Building rifles is fine for people with more experience, but I just don't recommend getting into "Frankentstein" guns until you have cut your teeth on at least one factory new (or used) complete rifle. Welcome to the site. Its good advice...but its so easy to build a lower...and upper..not so much, but still do-able. Buying a lower and upper (both complete) and mating them is easy as getting a pouring a beer. |
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I'm going to offer my usual, standard advice to new guys, which is that it is better to stick with buying a complete rifle for your first AR than to try and build one. Building rifles is fine for people with more experience, but I just don't recommend getting into "Frankentstein" guns until you have cut your teeth on at least one factory new (or used) complete rifle. I first qualified with the M-16 almost 30 years ago, and have been an AR-15 enthusiast ever since, and I STILL don't like "Frankenstein" guns. Welcome to the site. Thanks for the advice. I would much rather buy a complete one rather then try to build one. Once I learn the gun and how it functions inside and out maybe till then, Im not in a hurry. I was looking at RRA, Stag and S&W for my first New preferably to build it to my standards or a used one which was taken care of. I really want a flat top or with a removable carry handle but no one has them 
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I'm going to offer my usual, standard advice to new guys, which is that it is better to stick with buying a complete rifle for your first AR than to try and build one. Building rifles is fine for people with more experience, but I just don't recommend getting into "Frankentstein" guns until you have cut your teeth on at least one factory new (or used) complete rifle. I first qualified with the M-16 almost 30 years ago, and have been an AR-15 enthusiast ever since, and I STILL don't like "Frankenstein" guns. Welcome to the site. Thanks for the advice. I would much rather buy a complete one rather then try to build one. Once I learn the gun and how it functions inside and out maybe till then, Im not in a hurry. I was looking at RRA, Stag and S&W for my first New preferably to build it to my standards or a used one which was taken care of. I really want a flat top or with a removable carry handle but no one has them
Well you may want to search the Equipment Exchange forums for a good used upper and lower like I posted. It is the best way to do it quickly and as long as you can load a semi-automatic pistol without looking at the directions...you can mate an upper and lower AR15 together. There are good used uppers on the EE daily...its the lowers that sell in minutes...and I mean minutes. 
We also have a "build it yourself" forum. In the first link there is a video on how to assemble a lower. takes about 20 minutes to watch and shows you just how easy it is. I can not stress enough how easy building a lower really is. |
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Ya I went from cars to guns. Much better choice. Yeah, me too! And when I first started on this forum I would see guys posting pictures of 10 of their AR's. I thought it was lame and pointless that someone would buy/own 10 AR's. I didn't see any reason to own more than one or two. Well, 7 AR's later, I am working on number 8 and I totally get it now!!! I love having BRD! (New people, BRD stands for Black Rifle Disease, and you can easily catch it) 
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I would definitely stick to a chrome lined barrel if I were you, just for ease of maintenance and longevity. also go with a flat top, so that you can mount optics if you want. if you like the A2 carry handle sights, you can always add a detachable carry handle to a flat-top, but you cant take it off an A2.
most carbines have a M4 countour barrel. it looks stupid and adds weight without being any more accurate than a lightweight (because the chamber end of the barrel is thin, it whips like a lightweight, but the bore end of the barrel is thick, adding weight with no extra stiffness). Thus, I would look for a lightweight profile barrel for a carbine. also, most 16" barrel carbines come in a carbine length gas system that is rougher on parts, and less reliable, I would look for a midlength gas system instead. CMMG is the only one that makes a 1/7 twist lightweight profile midlength. they also make midweight midlengths called medcon profile. (m4 profiles too, if you really want a heavier barrel with no accuracy benefit) they sell both in complete uppers and rifles. they are excelent quality and very affordable (~600$ for a complete upper). this is what I recently purchased but wont receive mine for a few more weeks. RRA makes a 1/9 twist lightweight profile midlength, and also has a great reputation. but 1/9 likely wont stabilize the more effective 75-77gr projectiles that are all the rage these days. this was a deal breaker for me. noeveske also makes a lightweight-ish profile rifle, but barrels are not available seperately and complete uppers run 1300$ 
global tactical (dennys guns) makes a sweet chrome lined midlength barrel called the operator. it is heavier than most midweights, but incredibly accurate. if accuracy is paramount, look into these. denny will build you a custom upper using them. he is a great guy and good to deal with. |
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I'm going to offer my usual, standard advice to new guys, which is that it is better to stick with buying a complete rifle for your first AR than to try and build one. Building rifles is fine for people with more experience, but I just don't recommend getting into "Frankentstein" guns until you have cut your teeth on at least one factory new (or used) complete rifle. I first qualified with the M-16 almost 30 years ago, and have been an AR-15 enthusiast ever since, and I STILL don't like "Frankenstein" guns. Welcome to the site. I'm new here too OP and the advice given right there is what I went with a couple weeks ago when I bought my first AR. I was already upset about what might come form the new POTUS and crew and figured I'd start stocking up on ammo for my old school stuff at my local dealer. But then I noticed they had 3 models of S&W ARs, a very nice tactical Bushmaster and a DPMS .308 all lined up on the wall. I almost immediately bought one of the standard version of the S&W MP 15 and the price was right. I wanted something simple and factory built for my first one. Something I could immediatly enjoy and one that I could get used to without worrying whether I pieced it together properly myself since I have very little AR experience. I figure I can change it myself later if I decide to after getting to know it. I feel lucky now though becuase I didn't realize the rush is as bad as it is and the dealer sold out of those guns within just two days. I wished I would have bought a couple for myself at least. Acquiring quality mags and ammo has been a chore. But I sure am glad I was there on the day they put those rifles on the wall. 
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I am new to this website and hope to use it for info on which AR's are worth buying and which I should stay away from. I don't have unlimited resources so $ will be a consideration. I hope to buy something in February and just plan[at this time] on shooting in the back yard. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. |
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I am new to this website and hope to use it for info on which AR's are worth buying and which I should stay away from. I don't have unlimited resources so $ will be a consideration. I hope to buy something in February and just plan[at this time] on shooting in the back yard. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. If you buy off of the Equipmant Exchange from other AR15 team members...you will not get screwed...you may want to stay away from the guy with 1 post selling something. Other then that, its mainly you get what you pay for on AR15s. A cheap part is a cheap part..doesnt mean its not good, but it will be made with cheap metal or cheap plastic. If you are looking to buy in Feb, the best advise I can give you is start looking at the EE forums...that way you can see whats a good price for what piece you are looking for. Once you have that knowledge you can easily keep the weapon under $1000 by waiting for the best deal. I bought a NIB KAC M4 rail for $200, sold it for $180 since I mounted it...I saw the same thing selling for $170 to $250.....and they were all sold. I bought a 16" A2 upper complete for $250..they sell for twice that normally...I didnt even need it...lol I just saw the price and jumped for the credit card while typing "I'LL TAKE IT". And I always love telling the story of paying $350 cash for for all the parts needed to build a complete AR15...ofcourse I had to do some trading to make up the other $350+...but still the only cash that left my bank account totaled $350ish. |
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Well I ended up buying a RRA Elite CAR A4 for just under 1k but its what I wanted and I can build it up the rest of the way.
My question is the handguard is mid length, where is a none expensive place to get a quad rail. Kind of like this one How do I know know which one to get size wise or can anyne recommend any under $200? thanks Also what are a good brand 30rd mag to get for a RRA AR? |
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My question is the handguard is mid length, where is a none expensive place to get a quad rail. Kind of like this one How do I know know which one to get size wise or can anyne recommend any under $200? thanks You answered your own question (red). As for a nonFF Rail for under $200 try this one: YHM 2 piece Mid-Length (and it's on sale) Also what are a good brand 30rd mag to get for a RRA AR?
PMAGs are the current favorite - But check in the magazine forum for other good options. |
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