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Posted: 7/18/2012 7:36:59 PM EDT
| I have a carbine upper with a daniel defense Omega X 9.0 rail, it currently has a lo profile gas block, is there any gas piston system that can be retro fitted into this set up? I saw the bush master system and it seems it might fit. |
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I have a carbine upper with a daniel defense Omega X 9.0 rail, it currently has a lo profile gas block, is there any gas piston system that can be retro fitted into this set up? I saw the bush master system and it seems it might fit. why do you want to add a piston... heavy, expensive. more parts to fail. |
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do believe the adams arms conversion kit would work on that setup but i may be wrong.
ETA: if thats a 9" rail then you would need a mid length piston system from adams so the front gas block will clear the forearm but you have a carbine gas system currently correct? I dont think the adams would work 
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I have a carbine upper with a daniel defense Omega X 9.0 rail, it currently has a lo profile gas block, is there any gas piston system that can be retro fitted into this set up? I saw the bush master system and it seems it might fit. why do you want to add a piston... heavy, expensive. more parts to fail. This is the piston forum...not the piston bashing forum. The OP just asked a simple question. That being said I have an AA kit on my Middy and love it. Not much of a weight difference and cleaning is a breeze. However the AA kit will not work with your setup. I believe Osprey Defense makes the kit you are looking for. You can use your current gas block. Someone should chime in on the rail compatibility but I'm 99% sure it works. |
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I have a carbine upper with a daniel defense Omega X 9.0 rail, it currently has a lo profile gas block, is there any gas piston system that can be retro fitted into this set up? I saw the bush master system and it seems it might fit. why do you want to add a piston... heavy, expensive. more parts to fail. Actually you should probably do more research...the AK47 is considered by many to be the most reliable battle rifle widely available and it is a gas piston. Not saying that DI doesn't function reliably, but I'd rather have a gun that runs cleaner than one that runs dirty. I believe my AA setup is only heavier than a standard setup by a little more than the weight of the solid rod (the gas tube is hollow and aluminum). Just judging by what I felt the front sight/gas block assembly on the AA is close to that of the standard A-Framed sight. For the OP: why don't you go to the AA website (they post some setups that work) and if you need to, go to the AA facebook page and ask them there. When I needed to contact them, AA didn't respond to my emails nor my posts on their forum quickly but other people have posted that they respond to Facebook quickly. |
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I have a carbine upper with a daniel defense Omega X 9.0 rail, it currently has a lo profile gas block, is there any gas piston system that can be retro fitted into this set up? I saw the bush master system and it seems it might fit. why do you want to add a piston... heavy, expensive. more parts to fail. Actually you should probably do more research...the AK47 is considered by many to be the most reliable battle rifle widely available and it is a gas piston. Not saying that DI doesn't function reliably, but I'd rather have a gun that runs cleaner than one that runs dirty. I believe my AA setup is only heavier than a standard setup by a little more than the weight of the solid rod (the gas tube is hollow and aluminum). Just judging by what I felt the front sight/gas block assembly on the AA is close to that of the standard A-Framed sight. For the OP: why don't you go to the AA website (they post some setups that work) and if you need to, go to the AA facebook page and ask them there. When I needed to contact them, AA didn't respond to my emails nor my posts on their forum quickly but other people have posted that they respond to Facebook quickly. An AK 47 is not the same as a Piston AR15. AK has loose tolerance and large parts which contribute to its reliability. AR 15 is a whole different platform. If you want a Piston Gun, buy one that was built ground up to be a piston gun. thats like saying the sigma is a great gun because its recoil operated like the Glock or SW MP. Maybe you should do more research? |
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I have a carbine upper with a daniel defense Omega X 9.0 rail, it currently has a lo profile gas block, is there any gas piston system that can be retro fitted into this set up? I saw the bush master system and it seems it might fit. why do you want to add a piston... heavy, expensive. more parts to fail. Actually you should probably do more research...the AK47 is considered by many to be the most reliable battle rifle widely available and it is a gas piston. Not saying that DI doesn't function reliably, but I'd rather have a gun that runs cleaner than one that runs dirty. I believe my AA setup is only heavier than a standard setup by a little more than the weight of the solid rod (the gas tube is hollow and aluminum). Just judging by what I felt the front sight/gas block assembly on the AA is close to that of the standard A-Framed sight. For the OP: why don't you go to the AA website (they post some setups that work) and if you need to, go to the AA facebook page and ask them there. When I needed to contact them, AA didn't respond to my emails nor my posts on their forum quickly but other people have posted that they respond to Facebook quickly. An AK 47 is not the same as a Piston AR15. AK has loose tolerance and large parts which contribute to its reliability. AR 15 is a whole different platform. If you want a Piston Gun, buy one that was built ground up to be a piston gun. thats like saying the sigma is a great gun because its recoil operated like the Glock or SW MP. Maybe you should do more research? Thank you for the information, but I actually agree with you up to a point. Remember, I said that the DI functions well enough but overall I'd rather have a gun that runs cleaner in the critical moving parts area. My AA runs quite will and I've actually dumped rounds through it pretty fast at times. My gas piston area is self cleaning, and yes my tolerances are tighter than that of the AK and I am quite happy with it's accruracy in the ranges that I shoot. I've actually discovered that there's a big difference between a bipod only, and adding a monopod onto the stock. The short version is that my friends and I have done our own field research...my AA was a complete upper but one of my friends has built several uppers with an AA kit for the gas-piston and we both have DI's. We have also run our own "test to failure" (failure means jamming of some kind, not breakage). I have found that as I get older, I'm less willing to spend time cleaning and actually I think my accuracy stays more consistent when I don't "scrub" and with my DI I find that I have to scrub deposits off. With My AA I just run a snake through the barrel and wipe the bolt/carrier/receiver area clean and I'm done. I currently keep my hunting AR-15 a DI because it is a 6.8 so I don't shoot it that much but I really hate scrubbing and looking for pipe cleaners so I am considering adding and AA kit to it...the only thing that is stopping me is that I am buying other things with triggers. For me, the gas piston concept makes sense and as I stated you are right in that the AK has looser tolerances but I believe that the AK is a Proof-of-Concept test vehicle. I am aware of DI #14 and how many rounds it has run through it...but then again my grandfather smoked cigars and lived to be either 94 or 104 (depending on who you believe). I think I have done my research. Can you say that you have run your own Real World tests? |
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I have a carbine upper with a daniel defense Omega X 9.0 rail, it currently has a lo profile gas block, is there any gas piston system that can be retro fitted into this set up? I saw the bush master system and it seems it might fit. why do you want to add a piston... heavy, expensive. more parts to fail. Actually you should probably do more research...the AK47 is considered by many to be the most reliable battle rifle widely available and it is a gas piston. Not saying that DI doesn't function reliably, but I'd rather have a gun that runs cleaner than one that runs dirty. I believe my AA setup is only heavier than a standard setup by a little more than the weight of the solid rod (the gas tube is hollow and aluminum). Just judging by what I felt the front sight/gas block assembly on the AA is close to that of the standard A-Framed sight. For the OP: why don't you go to the AA website (they post some setups that work) and if you need to, go to the AA facebook page and ask them there. When I needed to contact them, AA didn't respond to my emails nor my posts on their forum quickly but other people have posted that they respond to Facebook quickly. An AK 47 is not the same as a Piston AR15. AK has loose tolerance and large parts which contribute to its reliability. AR 15 is a whole different platform. If you want a Piston Gun, buy one that was built ground up to be a piston gun. thats like saying the sigma is a great gun because its recoil operated like the Glock or SW MP. Maybe you should do more research? 
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Its like carp huggers ranting on forums where guys talk about bowfishing.
Its like guys who (to this day) just have to tell you how they think polymer guns are crap junk and 9mm's won't stop an attack. Retarded! For the OP. If you wanna keep your gas block then AA is out of the question. May consider Osprey. They can tell you what handguards are compatible. If yours are not compatible it shouldn't be a big deal to buy new ones that are, seen's how you are willing to spend bunches of money to pistonize your DI gun. If women find you handy, you may consider Adams Arms and just change out your gas block. Be advised it will be set screwed rather than pinned. Again you may have to change the handguard and if so this should not be a game changer. I have DI and Adams Arms. I love my AA. I would like to set up an Osprey gun too because I just want one of everything. Already have a Frontier polymer lower everyone was telling me would break, melt, etc etc. It works perfectly. Its fine to be a traditionalist but I embrace change. |
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