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Posted: 5/17/2009 7:43:12 AM EDT
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I have been considering buying an AR15 for a while but really tempted to make the plunge, maybe even today. I go through this temptation every year, then get busy and its put on the back burner for a year :(
Can you guys give me some very basic information, as I know nothing about this yet, I do some reloading and have the following guns now Glock 21 and 30 and a Kimber Desert Warrior in .45 cal, along with a CZ and Savage predator rifle in .204, a Remington 7600 in .270 and Benelli Nova Pump 12 gauge. I figure an AR15 will be a good addition to what I have but have the following questions. Can I get a good AR15 for under $1000.00? Any model I should avoid? What model would you suggest for a new owner? What Caliber to start with? I for sure want a gun I can add accessories to later, so would like to spend my initial investment on as much quality even if it has less on it, that can be added later if that makes any sense at all. Thanks for any advice. Denny Great forum by the way off to read and learn for a while. |
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I have been seeing most of the "better" quality ARs going for upwards of $1,100. For the most part, you can’t go wrong with a name brand. Most people encounter problems with cheap accessories. Always do a function test. That means: racking it a few times, putting it on safe (while cocked obviously) and make sure it does not make a click sound when you pull the trigger, and rack the slide with the trigger pulled back... let go until you hear a click... then repeat a few times.
Also make sure you get the twist ratio you want. The average person would normally use a 1:8 or 1:9. I recommend the 1:8 as an all around twist rate that will accurately allow you to shoot heavy and light bullets. Also find out what the upper is chambered in. it should be 5.56 or .223. Although similar they have differences. I think most people claim 5.56 i better because it more interchangeable between 5.56 and .223 rounds. Longer barrel=better accuracy BUT for “tacticool” proposes the longer barrel is less like. (this makes no difference to me) Don’t quote me on this but I think the stainless steel barrels as more accurate… then chrome molly then chrome lined. Good luck |
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Thanks guys, went to the local gun shop today the owner is a friend of mine so I try and do business there.
I looked at a Smith and Wesson M&P 15 $949.99, Bushmaster Ar-15 A-3 $1099.99 and a Stag Arms AR-15 A3 $849.99 all in .223 all pretty close in price. Not sure if I want a sight on it, or leave it off and get a scope. Do I want a carry handle or not? Are any of these a good choice to start. I will build one I am sure, but probably after I have played with one first. Thanks again for the help. I guess I am most confused of sight or no sight right now. |
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Thanks guys, went to the local gun shop today the owner is a friend of mine so I try and do business there. I looked at a Smith and Wesson M&P 15 $949.99, Bushmaster Ar-15 A-3 $1099.99 and a Stag Arms AR-15 A3 $849.99 all in .223 all pretty close in price. Not sure if I want a sight on it, or leave it off and get a scope. Do I want a carry handle or not? Are any of these a good choice to start. I will build one I am sure, but probably after I have played with one first. Thanks again for the help. I guess I am most confused of sight or no sight right now. Out of those three I'd get the M&P. You are going to want some sort of back up irons even if you are using an optic. So if you plan on getting an optic right away then you really don't need a carry handle. |
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I feel all three are great choices. People will argue for days about a 'name'... and that is the only diffrence in many cases.
YOU NEED IRON SIGHTS!!! Get familular with the rifle before you try to slap any kind of optic on top. I would go and pick up the Stag Arms tmr. |
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Thanks guys, went to the local gun shop today the owner is a friend of mine so I try and do business there. I looked at a Smith and Wesson M&P 15 $949.99, Bushmaster Ar-15 A-3 $1099.99 and a Stag Arms AR-15 A3 $849.99 all in .223 all pretty close in price. Not sure if I want a sight on it, or leave it off and get a scope. Do I want a carry handle or not? Are any of these a good choice to start. I will build one I am sure, but probably after I have played with one first. Thanks again for the help. I guess I am most confused of sight or no sight right now. Out of those three I'd get the M&P. You are going to want some sort of back up irons even if you are using an optic. So if you plan on getting an optic right away then you really don't need a carry handle. M and P No carry handle! |
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Thanks guys, I was leaning towards the S&W mainly because of name recognition. I am just too new to know the other names.
S&W does not have any sights, I assume I can add Iron sights to it. They do not have a S&W with sights, the only one that has the iron sights is the bushmaster and stag arms. |
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Thanks guys, I was leaning towards the S&W mainly because of name recognition. I am just too new to know the other names. S&W does not have any sights...They do not have a S&W with sights the only one that has the iron sights is the bushmaster and stag arms. Go with the Bushmaster or Stag Arms - they have sights and are sponsors here on AR15. |
| if the S&W was the optics ready model, it should have a railed gas block. if so, you can add a set of flip up sights. I would probably go this route. Yankee Hill Machine is now making a set of flip ups for around $200. This is probably the route i would go if i were you. though both of the other two rifles are very good quality rifles and you wouldn't go wrong with either of them. if either of them have a removable carry handle, you can take it off and add the optic of your choosing and then sell the carry handle and get a buis. |
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