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Posted: 7/27/2015 4:20:39 PM EDT
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Just wanted to see of anyone here had any experience with the HiperFire Enhanced Duty Trigger. I watched their video and a third party video review and it seems solid.
I like the advertised pull weight with mil-spec hammer fall energy. I also like the feature of holes in the disconnector. Seems like a good option for a SHTF gun. Thanks to any responders. |
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Some guy asked the exact same question a few minutes ago....
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_3_12/678685_.html&page=1&anc=bottom#bottom |
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I just picked one up recently. Haven't been to the range yet, but initial impressions are very good. Nice break with no creep, and a nice reset. Comes with two hammer springs, so you can pick your pull weight. Unlike using light springs in a standard trigger, there is no risk of light strikes with the EDT and lighter spring. For the price I think it's a great trigger. It feels a little better than my ALG QMS triggers. I also just picked up their 24 3G trigger for a 3 gun build.
I will say I had an issue initially with my EDT. The J-spring in the hammer had very little tension and the hammer pin could be pushed in an out very easily. I sent them an email and they responded almost immediately on a Saturday night. On Monday morning the owner called me to discuss the issue a bit more, and a couple days later I had a new hammer. Great service. |
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I just picked one up recently. Haven't been to the range yet, but initial impressions are very good. Nice break with no creep, and a nice reset. Comes with two hammer springs, so you can pick your pull weight. Unlike using light springs in a standard trigger, there is no risk of light strikes with the EDT and lighter spring. For the price I think it's a great trigger. It feels a little better than my ALG QMS triggers. I also just picked up their 24 3G trigger for a 3 gun build. I will say I had an issue initially with my EDT. The J-spring in the hammer had very little tension and the hammer pin could be pushed in an out very easily. I sent them an email and they responded almost immediately on a Saturday night. On Monday morning the owner called me to discuss the issue a bit more, and a couple days later I had a new hammer. Great service. Thanks for your input. That's good to hear. |
| I've had one in my 6.5 Grendel build for about 4 months or more now. I've haven't shot it a ton but I do have 200-300 rounds through the gun. I like the trigger a lot and it offers me an ability to be precise enough and its still "duty" tailored. I always hated factory triggers on Colt M4s and I hated the trigger on the old ass GAU-5P I carried while I was USAF Active Duty EOD. For $80 I'd do it again in a heart beat. If you're on the fence about this for $80 or a more expensive trigger, try this first. If you're thinking about a ALG trigger this isn't much more expensive, so I say give it a shot either way. |
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I have one in my 7.62x39 SBR. I was hoping the lighter weight hammer spring would still be strong enough to light my 7.62x39 primers. Unfortunately it wasn't and I had repeated light strikes. I haven't had it back to the range with the heavier spring. Trigger feels decent for a single stage. I won't buy a second though. I'm more likely to buy another RRA 2 stage, Armalite 7.62x39 2 stage (those are about the same price, maybe a bit less) or spend more and get another Larue or Geissele. |
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I'm not a big fan of the ALG. I generally prefer a two stage, for precision work you feel the second stage and break the shot just when you want it with the final 1.5-2lb of force. For quick work you just treat it like a single stage and pull it quickly. I do have some rifles that I use a single stage on. My BumpSAW works very well with the JARD 4.5lb adjustable single stage trigger. IMO most general purpose rifles are better suited with a decent two stage though. |
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I'm not a big fan of the ALG. I generally prefer a two stage, for precision work you feel the second stage and break the shot just when you want it with the final 1.5-2lb of force. For quick work you just treat it like a single stage and pull it quickly. I do have some rifles that I use a single stage on. My BumpSAW works very well with the JARD 4.5lb adjustable single stage trigger. IMO most general purpose rifles are better suited with a decent two stage though. Would you recommend a two stage trigger for a SHTF rifle? Would this HyperFire be a good choice as a single stage for SHTF rifle? If not, if anyone recommend me a single or double for a SHTF setup that would be great. I'm talking reliability #1, but nice pull as well. Thanks. |
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If reliability is number 1 then the new Larue takes the cake. They have done substantial testing and use S7 tool steal to make it last forever (far more cycles than 10 barrels would hold up to). I really like the feel of the wide trigger shoe as well. A little more budget minded is the Geissele G2S and SSA. The G2S has the same geometry and feel of the SSA but uses a seperate clip to hold the hammer pin in allowing for a slightly cheaper manufacturing process. The SSA gets individual QC checks whereas I believe the G2S is batch tested. Both are great triggers. I believe Trading Place Pawn normally has good prices and you can google for a coupon to make it a little better. I use quite a few RRA two stages, I like the RRA Varmint which can be had for $79 delivered on the EE. While several people have complained of failures they redid their QC a few years back and Steve over at RRA says fewer than 1 in 10,000 units gets returned. Consistency isn't as good on these as the more expensive Geissele's and Larue triggers. I've had some that feel amazing and others are just ok. They all feel better than the EDT. FWIW here are the triggers I currently own: Larue MBT, Geissele SD-E, Geissele SD3G, Geissele S2S (pre-cursor to the G2S), JARD fixed 4.5lb, JARD adjustable 4.5lb, JARD adjustable 2lb, CMMG two stage, Armalite two stage, RRA National Match, RRA Varmint, Hyperfire EDT, ALG enhanced (this one is still in the box, I haven't used it yet) and a bunch of standard triggers, PSA, DPMS, RRA, CMMG, DD, Spikes etc. I've also polished a few triggers and had a failed polished Bill Springfield trigger. |
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If reliability is number 1 then the new Larue takes the cake. They have done substantial testing and use S7 tool steal to make it last forever (far more cycles than 10 barrels would hold up to). I really like the feel of the wide trigger shoe as well. A little more budget minded is the Geissele G2S and SSA. The G2S has the same geometry and feel of the SSA but uses a seperate clip to hold the hammer pin in allowing for a slightly cheaper manufacturing process. The SSA gets individual QC checks whereas I believe the G2S is batch tested. Both are great triggers. I believe Trading Place Pawn normally has good prices and you can google for a coupon to make it a little better. I use quite a few RRA two stages, I like the RRA Varmint which can be had for $79 delivered on the EE. While several people have complained of failures they redid their QC a few years back and Steve over at RRA says fewer than 1 in 10,000 units gets returned. Consistency isn't as good on these as the more expensive Geissele's and Larue triggers. I've had some that feel amazing and others are just ok. They all feel better than the EDT. FWIW here are the triggers I currently own: Larue MBT, Geissele SD-E, Geissele SD3G, Geissele S2S (pre-cursor to the G2S), JARD fixed 4.5lb, JARD adjustable 4.5lb, JARD adjustable 2lb, CMMG two stage, Armalite two stage, RRA National Match, RRA Varmint, Hyperfire EDT, ALG enhanced (this one is still in the box, I haven't used it yet) and a bunch of standard triggers, PSA, DPMS, RRA, CMMG, DD, Spikes etc. I've also polished a few triggers and had a failed polished Bill Springfield trigger. Thanks very much for the information, I appreciate it. Do you know if Larue offers single stage triggers? I am not super familar with two stages, and would prefer to keep things simpler. That is, if Larue's two stage has any addictional (moving) parts than say a mil-spec trigger. |
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Larue does not offer a single stage version. I do not know if they will change and add a single stage version in the future. As you can see it has the same number of regular parts, hammer, trigger, disconnector.  The disconnector is pinned in place, so it does have one extra pin. The upside is you don't have to worry about aligning the disconnector with the trigger pin or mixing up/reversing/loosing the disconnector spring since it's permanently installed from the factory. The two stage design moves the primary sear engagement surface to a hook at the top of the trigger. The original single stage used the front of the trigger and indexed with the bottom of the hammer. In the two stage the front of the trigger becomes a secondary safety sear. If the 2nd stage ever goes out they normally revert to a single stage. I've never heard of a Larue failing. They are a new design, so that's not surprising. I know they have over 500,000 cycles on one in their testing machine. |
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Nice, that looks promising. I've heard lots of good things about Larue.
In related news, I emailed HiperFire this afternoon asking about durability and longevity, and I was informed it was tested over 100K times through live fire. Pretty impressive for longevity, no? |
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Quoted: Does anyone know how Larue's MBT hammer energy is in comparison to mil-spec? And would anyone recommend it over a Gesseile (spelling?) SSA? I believe they are full power springs. My preference is for the MBT over the SSA. They are both excellent triggers but I like the feel of the Larue better. |
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I believe they are full power springs. My preference is for the MBT over the SSA. They are both excellent triggers but I like the feel of the Larue better. Quoted:
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Does anyone know how Larue's MBT hammer energy is in comparison to mil-spec? And would anyone recommend it over a Gesseile (spelling?) SSA? I believe they are full power springs. My preference is for the MBT over the SSA. They are both excellent triggers but I like the feel of the Larue better. Thanks for the replies brother. Now the only "2 stage" trigger I've shot has been on a less than stellar Yugoslavian SKS, if you could even count that as one. What I'm asking is, will a double stage trigger interfere with rapid fire? Change the feel to a degree? Slow it down? I thought I read somewhere that some guy said his 2 stage messed with his rapid fire abilities. Or something. |
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A short reset trigger makes rapid fire easier. The SSA, MBT and SSA-E can be run as fast as a stock trigger (maybe faster) but you're probably not going to run one as fast as an SD3G or Hypertouch. If you had spent significant time shooting an SD3G and then swapped to the MBT you would probably feel it was a little slower. I will say this. My home defense SBR runs a geissele S2S, I had an SD3G in it for a bit, but I found I could occasionaly cycle the trigger faster than the BCG and end up with a hammer that followed the bolt carrier down and didn't ignite the primer. I can't do that with the S2S/SSA/MBT because the reset is a hair longer. |
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A short reset trigger makes rapid fire easier. The SSA, MBT and SSA-E can be run as fast as a stock trigger (maybe faster) but you're probably not going to run one as fast as an SD3G or Hypertouch. If you had spent significant time shooting an SD3G and then swapped to the MBT you would probably feel it was a little slower. I will say this. My home defense SBR runs a geissele S2S, I had an SD3G in it for a bit, but I found I could occasionaly cycle the trigger faster than the BCG and end up with a hammer that followed the bolt carrier down and didn't ignite the primer. I can't do that with the S2S/SSA/MBT because the reset is a hair longer. That's intersting. I probably won't be doing a lot of bench/target shooting with this rifle, but would like to be as accurate as possible when I do. Should I even bother with a 2 stage if it's not a precision set up? |
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Will the EDT accept other springs, like JP? The EDT already comes with springs for 4.5#. If you want lighter, get a competition trigger. That said, the hammer springs are not the same as a mil-spec hammer spring. They are what change the weight, but somehow keep full force behind the hammer. |
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Thanks. It's not necessarily lighter I am after but future proofing the product with spares on hand - it's not as easy to get parts over here as it is for you guys stateside. Between the EDT installed with the light spring, how does that compare to a ALG ACT with JP yellows installed - which would be the nicer of the two set ups for a budget trigger? |
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Thanks. It's not necessarily lighter I am after but future proofing the product with spares on hand - it's not as easy to get parts over here as it is for you guys stateside. Between the EDT installed with the light spring, how does that compare to a ALG ACT with JP yellows installed - which would be the nicer of the two set ups for a budget trigger? I've never fired an ALG trigger. I did have a mil-spec trigger that I polished the sear surfaces on, and used the JP yellow trigger spring only, with mil-spec hammer spring. I think it was 4.5-5 lbs when I tested it at the local gun shop I frequent. The EDT replaced it, much better take up and reset than mil-spec, which is essentially what the ACT is. You can buy hammer springs from Hiperfire for $10, in the US anyway. Not sure if you can get them. http://www.hiperfire.com/hammerspring.html |
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