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carry-handle in extreme lower   ETA: got my right mixed up with my other right. |
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Originally Posted By x248716x: carry-handle in extreme lower right. the guy, not the gal. focus. I think this is Israeli police. That gun is probably older than him, maybe older than his dad. Heck, even got the flat slip ring. https://i.imgur.com/mPrbTC3.jpg https://i.imgur.com/rHvFTbK.jpg I think we need a closeup of something else in that pic. |
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Originally Posted By Capta: I think we need a closeup of something else in that pic. Originally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By x248716x: carry-handle in extreme lower right. the guy, not the gal. focus. I think this is Israeli police. That gun is probably older than him, maybe older than his dad. Heck, even got the flat slip ring. https://i.imgur.com/mPrbTC3.jpg https://i.imgur.com/rHvFTbK.jpg I think we need a closeup of something else in that pic. That booty |
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Originally Posted By dubagel: That unit is the Israeli Border Guard. The IDF doesn’t throw things away. The problem is that the older stuff is rifled 1/12 for the 55gr m193 and the newer stuff m4 barrels are rifled for the 62gr ss109/m885. No kidding. This one show already once rebuilt in 1973 by US Anniston Depot. And later went to Israel and rebuilt again into carbine. 
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Originally Posted By dubagel: That unit is the Israeli Border Guard. The IDF doesn’t throw things away. The problem is that the older stuff is rifled 1/12 for the 55gr m193 and the newer stuff m4 barrels are rifled for the 62gr ss109/m885. The US had the same problem until OEF.. and maybe later |
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Originally Posted By mlin: No kidding. This one show already once rebuilt in 1973 by US Anniston Depot. And later went to Israel and rebuilt again into carbine. https://i.imgur.com/FrHU8Wy.jpg They're rules but that chamber flag is STUPID! |
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Originally Posted By Frens: The US had the same problem until OEF.. and maybe later Originally Posted By Frens: Originally Posted By dubagel: That unit is the Israeli Border Guard. The IDF doesn’t throw things away. The problem is that the older stuff is rifled 1/12 for the 55gr m193 and the newer stuff m4 barrels are rifled for the 62gr ss109/m885. The US had the same problem until OEF.. and maybe later In 2004 we had guys with M16A1 lowers. They had new A2 and M4 uppers though. You could tell right away who had those rifles by the two tone look the rifles had. The lowers were pretty old. Never saw any A1 uppers though. |
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Originally Posted By dubagel: I think that set up with the chamber flag and bungee allows them to keep a live magazine in the weapon. Likely more of IDF regulation require chamber flag be used in certain circumstances, not strictly for just allow live magazine inserted. 
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Originally Posted By mlin: Likely more of IDF regulation require chamber flag be used in certain circumstances, not strictly for just allow live magazine inserted. something funky about the ejection port rod retention. seems like a cotter pin of sorts? is that how they OEM did that eons ago. IDF cloners, take note. |
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Originally Posted By rpoL98: something funky about the ejection port rod retention. seems like a cotter pin of sorts? is that how they OEM did that eons ago. IDF cloners, take note. It is a quick release chamber flag. Pulling the paracord chambers a round. Several are available on the market. https://warriortech.us/Safety-Chamber-Flags_c_8.html https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1165137689?pid=137689 |
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Originally Posted By mlin: In addition to chamber flag, I think I also saw the orange muzzle plug? That's way overkill. https://i.imgur.com/U5G9Ir4.jpg That may be a training session, so added safety factor... |
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Originally Posted By Advance: It is a quick release chamber flag. Pulling the paracord chambers a round. Several are available on the market. https://warriortech.us/Safety-Chamber-Flags_c_8.html https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1165137689?pid=137689 Originally Posted By Advance: Originally Posted By rpoL98: something funky about the ejection port rod retention. seems like a cotter pin of sorts? is that how they OEM did that eons ago. IDF cloners, take note. It is a quick release chamber flag. Pulling the paracord chambers a round. Several are available on the market. https://warriortech.us/Safety-Chamber-Flags_c_8.html https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1165137689?pid=137689  I did say ejection port rod retention. I guess I should've said ejection port dust cover rod retainer, to be perfectly clear. |
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Originally Posted By rpoL98: https://i.imgur.com/ocnQ997.jpg I did say ejection port rod retention. I guess I should've said ejection port dust cover rod retainer, to be perfectly clear. My bad. Interesting piece of hardware. |
Hornady Rapid Rack https://www.hornady.com/shop/accessories/hornady-rapid-rack I have one. They work. Some LE agencies use them so they can keep a loaded magazine in the gun. It does work faster than the charging handle. YMMV |
They used to use these. I have one in my parts box.  E-Lander Magazine in old-style IDF Mag Carrier. It is turned down for faster loading. The mag can also be turned up for more streamlined carry.  MTH Magazine carrier replaced the TMC and holds the magazine an a way that keeps it the weapon more compact and is quicker to load. https://israeldefensestore.com/fab-defense-accessories/fab-defense-mth-horizontal-magazine-carrier.html |
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Picked up this old Bushmaster xm15-e2s that was covered in accessories. Stripped it down, added a sling from zahal and thinking that’s it! Attached File |
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Originally Posted By mlin: No kidding. This one show already once rebuilt in 1973 by US Anniston Depot. And later went to Israel and rebuilt again into carbine. https://i.imgur.com/FrHU8Wy.jpg How are you able to tell the history of this? |
Since i cleared some.stuff from my media, here is an idf inspired upper build start Yhm flashider is for a mock up. Still deciding between that and an A2 |
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Originally Posted By flashooter: Picked up this old Bushmaster xm15-e2s that was covered in accessories. Stripped it down, added a sling from zahal and thinking that’s it! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1077/IMG_4218_jpeg-3045602.JPG Very nice rifle |
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Originally Posted By bolt241: How are you able to tell the history of this? Originally Posted By bolt241: Originally Posted By mlin: No kidding. This one show already once rebuilt in 1973 by US Anniston Depot. And later went to Israel and rebuilt again into carbine. https://i.imgur.com/FrHU8Wy.jpg How are you able to tell the history of this? Engraved above the magwell is 8 - 23 - ANAD (Anniston Army Depot) Which is typically how weapons are marked when they've gone through a rebuild or at least inspection at the depot level. |
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Well this started as a Blood Diamond clone build, but decided to go my own way. H&R M16A1 lower; Colt 6520 upper, Colt M4CQB barrel, Surefire Blast Warden on a Surefire A2 FH. I like the idea presented earlier of a lug adapter to mount a light. Looks like a perfect setup for a Micro Scout. 
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Originally Posted By x248716x: carry-handle in extreme lower https://i.imgur.com/mPrbTC3.jpg https://i.imgur.com/rHvFTbK.jpg ETA: got my right mixed up with my other right. Dump Truck 
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This was my main jam for years, only difference was aimpoint and light. Need to toss one of the streamlights on it today. It serves as the truck gun and KISS carbine now. 6921 factory upper, pinned a2x, Centurion C4 cutout, Geissele g2s. +/- 12k rounds and on it's second bolt - flat out shoots. 
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Originally Posted By Finslayer83: This was my main jam for years, only difference was aimpoint and light. Need to toss one of the streamlights on it today. It serves as the truck gun and KISS carbine now. 6921 factory upper, pinned a2x, Centurion C4 cutout, Geissele g2s. +/- 12k rounds and on it's second bolt - flat out shoots. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/164007/IMG_6400-3100630.jpg That's my kinda rifle. I like cutout and extended carbine forends. |
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Originally Posted By stoner01: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/284414/1000005100-3103803.jpg Ended up not liking the gooseneck. 
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