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6/5/2006 5:53:57 AM EDT
I need to get a high res image of the "infidel" script.  We are going to be doing engravings on the sides of our lowers but I can't seem to find the artwork.
John
6/5/2006 6:03:02 AM EDT
[#1]
That'd be sweet. Doesn't someone on here sell the T-shirts?
6/5/2006 6:09:16 AM EDT
[#2]


S.O.
6/5/2006 6:12:38 AM EDT
[#3]
Wikipedia infidel and it will have one. Don't know if that is what you are looking for.
6/5/2006 6:30:10 AM EDT
[#4]
This is Christian infidel, maybe you can take out the Christian first part for your use.
6/5/2006 7:33:07 AM EDT
[#5]
right-to-left *cough*
6/5/2006 7:44:11 AM EDT
[#6]
Caveat:  I do not speak or write Arabic.  That said, I believe these are what you are looking for (traditional and simplified fonts).  If you want, I can send you a PDF file that you can scale as desired.


ETA: As per my caveat, it appears that my first pictures included an extraneous hash mark.  Wikipedia shows it without the hash, while Google Answers shows it with, and I originally accepted Google Answers.  But on further investigation, I believe without the hash mark is the correct form.  Without the hash shows 551,000 hits on a Google search, while with the hash shows only 600 hits.

ETA-2:  Thedoctors308 has explained that the "hash" mark is actually a voweling mark and that either version is correct, although it is more common to omit the voweling mark.

Accordingly, here are the updated images without the hash voweling mark:






And here are the first (less commonly used) images with the hash voweling mark:



6/5/2006 7:59:58 AM EDT
[#7]
Why?
6/5/2006 8:18:53 AM EDT
[#8]
bad link
6/5/2006 8:19:23 AM EDT
[#9]

Quoted:
right-to-left *cough*


Oh details details..
6/5/2006 8:28:19 AM EDT
[#10]
This makes me even happier that I'm getting a CMMG rifle.  
6/5/2006 8:56:27 AM EDT
[#11]
Does CMMG do anything orignal ?
6/5/2006 9:15:00 AM EDT
[#12]
Oh please, CMMG gives the market what they want. It's called smart business.
6/5/2006 9:15:46 AM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:
Does CMMG do anything orignal ?




How many manufacturers do you know that have done this before Mr. Tactical Operator?
6/5/2006 9:27:25 AM EDT
[#14]
And the haters show up to attempt to ruin another thread. Why?
6/5/2006 9:42:43 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
And the haters show up to attempt to ruin another thread. Why?



because he's way more tactical than us.  he's the coolest kid in his grade.  maybe even the whole school.


CMMG--keep doin what you're doin.  


not that i'm tagging this for updates on availability or anything, of course.  my wife would cut 'em off if i did that.
6/5/2006 9:58:13 AM EDT
[#16]
Noveske... He had it for about a year now.  I am sure if I researched it I can find others.

You dont need to try and partronize my name on here.  Im just sick of poeple that need to hop on others backs to make a buck !

And Hater I am not !
6/5/2006 10:55:29 AM EDT
[#17]
I didn't ask why to bash CMMG. I asked why because I've seen this on several firearms/stickers/shirts etc...and I don't see the attraction. Why would anyone embrace and accept a term used by those pieces of shit? If your reasoning is that by using it you are taking it's intended purpose and twisting it, thereby rendering it powerless I say this....Black folks say the same thing about calling each other "nigga". They took a white man's insult, twisted it and made it their own. It doesn't make them sound anymore intelligent because they use that word, in fact it's a defeatist attitude and pathetic. I don't see how "infidel" is any different.

Of course that's just my opinion. Worth exactly what you paid for it.
6/5/2006 11:00:10 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
Noveske... He had it for about a year now.  I am sure if I researched it I can find others.

You dont need to try and partronize my name on here.  Im just sick of poeple that need to hop on others backs to make a buck !

And Hater I am not !



Using your "logic", you should be hating in every single thread that is not an Colt/Armalite product. Or any thread beyond the originator of a free flot tube, or optics mouint. Does that make sense? Didn't think so. And if you don't agree with it, why come into a thread and post garbage? Is the world a better place now? No it is not, so again, why post about it.

Seems you should just move on to the next thread, rather than trashing a normal discussion for no reason.
6/5/2006 11:19:56 AM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I didn't ask why to bash CMMG. I asked why because I've seen this on several firearms/stickers/shirts etc...and I don't see the attraction. Why would anyone embrace and accept a term used by those pieces of shit? If your reasoning is that by using it you are taking it's intended purpose and twisting it, thereby rendering it powerless I say this....Black folks say the same thing about calling each other "nigga". They took a white man's insult, twisted it and made it their own. It doesn't make them sound anymore intelligent because they use that word, in fact it's a defeatist attitude and pathetic. I don't see how "infidel" is any different.

Of course that's just my opinion. Worth exactly what you paid for it.



It is an infidel thing.  You wouldn't understand.
6/5/2006 12:03:03 PM EDT
[#20]

Quoted:
Noveske... He had it for about a year now.  I am sure if I researched it I can find others.

You dont need to try and partronize my name on here.  Im just sick of poeple that need to hop on others backs to make a buck !

And Hater PAYING MEMBER I am not !




Fixed it for ya!
6/5/2006 12:09:04 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I didn't ask why to bash CMMG. I asked why because I've seen this on several firearms/stickers/shirts etc...and I don't see the attraction. Why would anyone embrace and accept a term used by those pieces of shit? If your reasoning is that by using it you are taking it's intended purpose and twisting it, thereby rendering it powerless I say this....Black folks say the same thing about calling each other "nigga". They took a white man's insult, twisted it and made it their own. It doesn't make them sound anymore intelligent because they use that word, in fact it's a defeatist attitude and pathetic. I don't see how "infidel" is any different.

Of course that's just my opinion. Worth exactly what you paid for it.



It is an infidel thing.  You wouldn't understand.



Fo shizzle my infidel...
6/5/2006 12:52:07 PM EDT
[#22]
Thanks zrxc77.  That worked very well.

6/5/2006 12:58:15 PM EDT
[#23]
You're welcome.  That turned out very nicely, and you got it done very quickly, too.  What kind of engraver do you use that lets you turn out a new design so quickly and exactly?
6/5/2006 1:01:40 PM EDT
[#24]
Ooooooooh...

I WANT ONE!!!!!

6/5/2006 1:06:09 PM EDT
[#25]
Not to be critical because it certainly rocks ... but it seems a little hash mark was left off the bottom of the word as done on the engraved lower.

Constructive comment. Nice work.

BK
AmericanSnipers.org
6/5/2006 1:16:56 PM EDT
[#26]
Any chance those of us that have CMMG lowers can get our "old" ones sent in and engraved?
6/5/2006 1:30:27 PM EDT
[#27]

Quoted:
Not to be critical because it certainly rocks ... but it seems a little hash mark was left off the bottom of the word as done on the engraved lower.

Constructive comment. Nice work.

BK
AmericanSnipers.org



I sourced the script severel different places but couldn't find the small hash mark as being part of the text.  I can always go back and add it if necessary.
6/5/2006 1:31:22 PM EDT
[#28]

Quoted:
Not to be critical because it certainly rocks ... but it seems a little hash mark was left off the bottom of the word as done on the engraved lower.

Constructive comment. Nice work.

BK
AmericanSnipers.org



I sourced the script severel different places but couldn't find the small hash mark as being part of the text.  I can always go back and add it if necessary.
6/5/2006 1:34:16 PM EDT
[#29]

Quoted:
I need to get a high res image of the "infidel" script.  We are going to be doing engravings on the sides of our lowers but I can't seem to find the artwork.
John



I would like a copy also - my wife has a high-end embroidery machine...
6/5/2006 1:35:54 PM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
Not to be critical because it certainly rocks ... but it seems a little hash mark was left off the bottom of the word as done on the engraved lower.

Constructive comment. Nice work.

BK
AmericanSnipers.org


I've seen it with and without the hash mark.  Not being an Arabic speaker, I can't guarantee which is precisely correct.  I believe that Arabic script changes slightly depending on the surrounding characters.  This may be an example of that and both could be right in different circumstances.  For what it is worth, Wikipedia shows it without the hash, while Google Answers shows it with.  At this point I would trust Wikipedia more and conclude that my pictures mistakenly included the hash mark.  I think CMMG made the right call by not including the hash mark.
6/5/2006 1:39:31 PM EDT
[#31]
Damn it!  I have too many ARs!  I guess I can squeeze in one more.
6/5/2006 2:44:38 PM EDT
[#32]

Quoted:
Thanks zrxc77.  That worked very well.

64.184.32.112/cmmg_images/tbl_images/Photos/Lower_Stripped_Infidel.jpg



First off I may need one of those.

second, holy crap thats fast, tryin out a new toy tool?
6/5/2006 2:52:42 PM EDT
[#33]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Not to be critical because it certainly rocks ... but it seems a little hash mark was left off the bottom of the word as done on the engraved lower.

Constructive comment. Nice work.

BK
AmericanSnipers.org


I've seen it with and without the hash mark.  Not being an Arabic speaker, I can't guarantee which is precisely correct.  I believe that Arabic script changes slightly depending on the surrounding characters.  This may be an example of that and both could be right in different circumstances.  For what it is worth, Wikipedia shows it without the hash, while Google Answers shows it with.  At this point I would trust Wikipedia more and conclude that my pictures mistakenly included the hash mark.  I think CMMG made the right call by not including the hash mark.



You don't need to show voweling. (hash marks)
Take a look at an arabic newspaper - no voweling.
Native speakers don't need the voweling marks to figure out pronunciation.
It is correct either way.
6/5/2006 2:55:47 PM EDT
[#34]
كافِر
6/5/2006 3:08:26 PM EDT
[#35]
I'm shocked. What cultural insensitivity! What an outrage among civilized people! The Nation of Islam will surely protest this website!


I'm lovin' it...
6/5/2006 3:16:23 PM EDT
[#36]
I have always like "Infidel by the grace of God", but I don't know how to spell that in arabic.
6/5/2006 3:39:07 PM EDT
[#37]
That would make a great tattoo...

But not on me...

6/5/2006 3:58:33 PM EDT
[#38]

Quoted:
I'm shocked. What cultural insensitivity! What an outrage among civilized people! The Nation of Islam will surely protest this website!


I'm lovin' it...img.photobucket.com/albums/v650/Bill_Lester/thumbsup.gif



The Nation of Islam (NOI) is a religious and socio-political organization founded in the United States by Wallace Fard Muhammad in 1930 with a declared aim of resurrecting the spiritual, mental, social, and economic condition of the Black men and women of America and the rest of the world. Its formal name is The Lost-Found Nation of Islam in the West.

The NOI is viewed by most Muslims as deviant. The reason cited is that The NOI has taught that God would manifest himself in a human being (Wallace Fard Muhammad) — in Islam, the most central article of faith is the statement, "There is no god but God, and Muhammad is His Prophet". Muslims have used the pejorative term Farrakhanism to express ridicule of the organization.

In other words - Nation of Islam is not the same thing as Islam.

Don't let me distract from the new lowers
I think they look badass.
6/5/2006 4:08:00 PM EDT
[#39]
Well here is my infidel got the receiver at one of my local gun shows for this build, i been told that is not the correct spelling.http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/jsigpack/2006_0413Image0001.jpg
6/5/2006 4:08:28 PM EDT
[#40]

Quoted:
Thanks zrxc77.  That worked very well.

64.184.32.112/cmmg_images/tbl_images/Photos/Lower_Stripped_Infidel.jpg



i want one!
6/5/2006 4:08:51 PM EDT
[#41]

Quoted:
Well here is my infidel got the receiver at one of my local gun shows for this build, i been told that is not the correct spelling.
i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/jsigpack/2006_0413Image0001.jpg



Not even close.
That doesn't even say anything....at all.
It is just gibberish.
6/5/2006 4:19:37 PM EDT
[#42]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well here is my infidel got the receiver at one of my local gun shows for this build, i been told that is not the correct spelling.
i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/jsigpack/2006_0413Image0001.jpg



Not even close.
That doesn't even say anything....at all.
It is just gibberish.



!!!! Sorry man I can't help it, that's just too funny!
6/5/2006 4:24:31 PM EDT
[#43]
Like i say  (been told not to be the correct spelling) even if is 'not even close' the price on the receiver was worth it ! http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/jsigpack/2006_0529Image0038.jpg
6/5/2006 4:25:02 PM EDT
[#44]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well here is my infidel got the receiver at one of my local gun shows for this build, i been told that is not the correct spelling.
i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/jsigpack/2006_0413Image0001.jpg



Not even close.
That doesn't even say anything....at all.
It is just gibberish.



!!!! Sorry man I can't help it, that's just too funny!



It says "random letters blink random letters"
6/5/2006 4:27:15 PM EDT
[#45]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
Not to be critical because it certainly rocks ... but it seems a little hash mark was left off the bottom of the word as done on the engraved lower.

Constructive comment. Nice work.

BK
AmericanSnipers.org


I've seen it with and without the hash mark.  Not being an Arabic speaker, I can't guarantee which is precisely correct.  I believe that Arabic script changes slightly depending on the surrounding characters.  This may be an example of that and both could be right in different circumstances.  For what it is worth, Wikipedia shows it without the hash, while Google Answers shows it with.  At this point I would trust Wikipedia more and conclude that my pictures mistakenly included the hash mark.  I think CMMG made the right call by not including the hash mark.



You don't need to show voweling. (hash marks)
Take a look at an arabic newspaper - no voweling.
Native speakers don't need the voweling marks to figure out pronunciation.
It is correct either way.


Thank you for the explanation.  I figured someone would know the answer, which is why I left both versions up after I discovered that the version without the hash (or rather, as you pointed out, "voweling mark") was more common.
6/5/2006 4:36:41 PM EDT
[#46]

Quoted:
Like i say  (been told not to be the correct spelling) even if is 'not even close' the price on the receiver was worth it !
i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/jsigpack/2006_0529Image0038.jpg



That is all that matters - nice looking sticks.
6/5/2006 4:44:49 PM EDT
[#47]
Where can one find an Infidel shirt?
6/5/2006 4:44:57 PM EDT
[#48]

Quoted:
Like i say  (been told not to be the correct spelling) even if is 'not even close' the price on the receiver was worth it !
i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/jsigpack/2006_0529Image0038.jpg




I think the english writing underneath makes it pretty clear.   Its not like many people will know the difference with the Arabic.
6/5/2006 4:47:40 PM EDT
[#49]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Well here is my infidel got the receiver at one of my local gun shows for this build, i been told that is not the correct spelling.
i16.photobucket.com/albums/b4/jsigpack/2006_0413Image0001.jpg



Not even close.
That doesn't even say anything....at all.
It is just gibberish.





Now you know how alot of people with those "chinese character" tats feel. If they only knew what some of those said!
6/5/2006 5:02:51 PM EDT
[#50]

Quoted:
Where can one find an Infidel shirt?



Try- http://www.lifelibertyetc.com/
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