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12/27/2009 1:55:00 PM EDT
I am looking to get a BCM mid length upper in the near future.  I have seen on the BCM site that their mid length handguards do not have real good reviews. How hard is it to install handguards?  I have been looking at the Cav Arms C8's to go on this build and wanted to see what was involved with installing them.  I have seen some other handguard kits that have what looks to be a cap on the muzzle end where you would have to remove to front site and I don't know if I would be up to that.

Thanks
12/27/2009 2:11:25 PM EDT
[#1]
The standard style mid-length handguards do not require that you remove the front sight. They are no harder to install than any other traditional handguard. If you don't have the handguard installation tool, it will make things much easier. BCM sells them on their site as well.

Regarding the handguards, I tried out the Cavalry C8 handguards and the RRA handguards on my midlength. Against the norm here on the forums, I found the RRAs to have a much better fit than the C8s. I've not tried the C6s.
12/27/2009 2:15:03 PM EDT
[#2]
I have Cav Arms C8 on my middy. You can install them by hand, it is easier with the tool but it can be done.
For this type of handgaurd you don't have to remove anything, just push the "D" ring down and pop in place. Should take about 15 seconds.
12/27/2009 2:29:34 PM EDT
[#3]
Not disagreeing with knucklehead, but my BCM upper's spring was so stiff there is no way I would have been able to install my handguards the first time without the tool. Once those springs break in, it is possible to install the standard handguards without the tool.
12/27/2009 2:32:57 PM EDT
[#4]
I have a BCM upper and I was able to install hand guards without the tool when it was brand new. The delta ring spring isn't that strong.
12/27/2009 2:35:11 PM EDT
[#5]
I have a couple of BCM mid-length uppers.

Never had a bitch about the handguards.

Or anything else for that matter.
12/27/2009 4:44:39 PM EDT
[#6]
No issues with the RRA version.  Like many new ones, they buddy system may be preferred to get them in place.
12/28/2009 8:15:17 AM EDT
[#7]
Might want to check out Noveske, I hear their midlength handguards are the best.
12/28/2009 9:01:14 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
Might want to check out Noveske, I hear their midlength handguards are the best.



I have heard several people say this also, anyone know for sure if they sell standard handguards seperate or if they make them in house ?
12/29/2009 8:33:39 AM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Might want to check out Noveske, I hear their midlength handguards are the best.


Do they make a standard handguard? I had done a search and could not find just a plain handguard.

Thanks
12/29/2009 4:11:40 PM EDT
[#10]
For the price of the hand guard tool. It can't be beat.  I had one for about three years before I tried it.  Pissed I hadn't use it earlier
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12/29/2009 4:48:22 PM EDT
[#11]
A tool would be handy if you're going to be pulling them off a lot. Or grab a buddy like they teach in the military.

I'm 62 and can get my ArmaLite middy handguards on and off with no tool or buddy. Just do one at a time. It's not a brute strength issue, more technique.

As far as Noveske, I couldn't find their midlength handguards for sale either. Hopefully someone else will.
12/29/2009 7:43:12 PM EDT
[#12]
I like the regular plastic handguards that came on my CMMG middy. I believe they are VLTOR. One of my handguards was cracked when I first received the upper from AIM. Emailed them for a replacement, and they sent me a replacement set of VLTORs. I only needed to use one of the two they sent me, matched the original perfectly.
I didn't even know there was any preference among plastic handguards, besides shape and heatshield. I figured one manufacturer was essentially the same as the next for something as simple as this. What's next, A2 pistol grip preference?


 
12/30/2009 1:31:12 AM EDT
[#13]
Handguards: Noveseke M4
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=931
Good Luck
12/30/2009 4:35:09 AM EDT
[#14]
I have put so many of the hanguards on that it's easy for me know.

Here's a tip, put the upper on first.  Don't know why, but the upper was always ore of a PITA to get in.  Once in the lower will pop in easy.
12/30/2009 5:37:47 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Not disagreeing with knucklehead, but my BCM upper's spring was so stiff there is no way I would have been able to install my handguards the first time without the tool. Once those springs break in, it is possible to install the standard handguards without the tool.

Use the "buddy system".  My  10 year old son comes in handy when changing any of my handguards.  
12/30/2009 7:21:58 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:
Handguards: Noveseke M4
http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=931
Good Luck


I believe those are just the standard M4 Carbine length, the OP was reffering to midlength.

12/30/2009 7:35:45 AM EDT
[#17]
It seems that ALL of the aftermarket handguards are injection molded plastic.  They can be warped, etc.  No matter what brand you get, it will be hit and miss for handguards as to whether they fit tight or not.


ETA:  I have used RRA and Cav.
12/30/2009 8:24:59 AM EDT
[#18]
For those of you that have used the BCM standard midlenght handguards, what is your opinion?  I know joe-bananas said he has had no problems but who else here had bought a mid length from BCM and got the standard handguards on it?
12/30/2009 10:00:33 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
For those of you that have used the BCM standard midlenght handguards, what is your opinion?  I know joe-bananas said he has had no problems but who else here had bought a mid length from BCM and got the standard handguards on it?


I've used BCM and Cavarms C8 midlength handguards. Both are tapered but the Cavarms is more of an oval shape while the  BCM has a round shape.
I prefer the the BCM because it feels a bit more narrow and allows me to get my hand around it for a better grip. Also, (for those that care) it does not move or twist (at all!) when installed on my particular upper. The Cavarms is made from much thicker plastic, the texture is a bit rougher and may offer a better grip if not using gloves. Also, the material used for the heat shield is a bit thicker and it's attached more securely. Overall, the Cavarms weighs a tad more than the BCM.
These differences and observations are minor; either will serve you well. I prefer the shape of the BCM and it is my first choice.


While I have never seen the Noveske handguards in person, they appear (from seeing pics on the website) very similar to the BCM's.  
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