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4/5/2011 12:30:28 AM EDT
Sorry no pics. Why buy a tool you'll only use once or twice. All I used was an hobby knife and tweezers (wear eye protection). With the lower facing up (butt stock down, mag well up), install the detent spring. Pick up the detent with the tweezers and place it over it's hole and hold it in place. With your other hand, use the blade of the hobby knife to push the detent all the way down. With the hand that was once holding the tweezers, insert the pivot pin. Pull out the knife blade. This works because the blade is thinner then the gap between the flat side of the pivot pin. Hope this helps some one and saves you a couple bucks.
4/5/2011 2:29:42 AM EDT
[#1]
Yup, I use my pocket knife blade to do the same thing.  Its worked just fine several times now.
4/5/2011 4:03:47 AM EDT
[#2]
I've been using a hex wrench through the opposite side to hold the detent down. I didn't think using a knife was a good idea.
4/5/2011 4:12:54 AM EDT
[#3]
I use the clevis pin method. No worries about launching the spring.
4/5/2011 5:23:36 AM EDT
[#4]
They make a tool?
4/5/2011 5:39:06 AM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
I use the clevis pin method. No worries about launching the spring.


I did this ... got one at Home Depot for like .75 cents.

Quoted:
They make a tool?


Yep
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26488/Product/PIVOT_PIN_DETENT_INSTALLATION_TOOL
4/5/2011 6:08:40 AM EDT
[#6]
+1 on the utility blade, that's how I've always done it, never lost a detent/scratched my lower/inexplicably cut my fingers off during construction
4/5/2011 8:30:51 AM EDT
[#7]
You can make your own tool with a wooden dowel. Drill a hole in a wooden dowel. If you wanted to get creative make a T handle with the dowel to turn.
4/5/2011 8:50:37 AM EDT
[#8]
I use the pivot pin itself. Buttstock down, magwell facing away from you, install the spring, then the detent. With the pivot pin rotated 90*, use the pivot pin to push down onto the detent, then slide the pivot pin into place. Only takes a minute to do.
4/5/2011 1:20:07 PM EDT
[#9]
Ive used several methods mentioned above. Always do it either in a large clear plastic bag so the detent is caught when it flies out, or set up a backstop with a shop towel hung on some spray paint cans right infront of the reciever. Detents are hard to find.
4/5/2011 2:21:26 PM EDT
[#10]
I just finished my first lower using a razor blade.  I was going to buy the install tool but got impatient and just used a razor blade.  I launched it once but luckily found it without too much searching.  I'm positive that I would have got it the first time if I didn't get distracted by my two year old.
4/5/2011 4:26:25 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Sorry no pics. Why buy a tool you'll only use once or twice. All I used was an hobby knife and tweezers (wear eye protection). With the lower facing up (butt stock down, mag well up), install the detent spring. Pick up the detent with the tweezers and place it over it's hole and hold it in place. With your other hand, use the blade of the hobby knife to push the detent all the way down. With the hand that was once holding the tweezers, insert the pivot pin. Pull out the knife blade. This works because the blade is thinner then the gap between the flat side of the pivot pin. Hope this helps some one and saves you a couple bucks.


I have done quite a few builds this way, still have managed to launch the detent. Bought a clevis pin for a buck & have not launched one since.
4/5/2011 6:16:48 PM EDT
[#12]
I've been laying the receiver down on its side and installing the pivot pin with part of the round side pushing the pin into the hole then as I get the pin in further I turn it til the pin pops into the grove, job done.... we don't need no stinkin' tools for a simple job like that.
4/5/2011 6:21:24 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
I've been laying the receiver down on its side and installing the pivot pin with part of the round side pushing the pin into the hole then as I get the pin in further I turn it til the pin pops into the grove, job done.... we don't need no stinkin' tools for a simple job like that.


This guy gets it.

Pivot pin installation rivals trigger guard roll pins and lubrication as the two most over thought out and easy tasks made difficult that get discussed ad nauseum on this site.
4/6/2011 5:54:28 AM EDT
[#14]
Never needed a tool.
4/6/2011 6:43:23 AM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
I've been laying the receiver down on its side and installing the pivot pin with part of the round side pushing the pin into the hole then as I get the pin in further I turn it til the pin pops into the grove, job done.... we don't need no stinkin' tools for a simple job like that.


THIS ^^^^^^ It's in our assembly sticky, too. ^^^^^^^^

First build, first time. No knives, tools, expense, hassle. Done.

If some would spend as much on reloading equipment as assembly tools, they could shoot more often.

4/6/2011 7:08:50 AM EDT
[#16]
You kiddin' ........we love reloading......shooting......building.......and TOOLS!
4/6/2011 8:37:15 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Never needed a tool.


Didnt know you needed a tool, I do mine with my nimlbe fingers. It does take some practice and paitence, but it gets easier, you just need to build/buy more ARs.
4/6/2011 9:08:06 AM EDT
[#18]
I use a small pair of needle nose to set it in place. I then use a feeler gauge to hold it down while I slide the pin in place.
4/6/2011 6:03:22 PM EDT
[#19]
I used a punch the same diameter as the pivot pin, get detent down in the hole, push the punch over top of it through the holes, going backwards, and then push the punch back out with the pivot pin... simple, had no issues whatsoever. This was my first build(took about 30 minutes) and I heard all the complaints of launching things across the room... I was scared, but now realize that it couldn't have been easier.
4/6/2011 7:40:41 PM EDT
[#20]
Just use the end of the smallest punch through the other end and push it back through with the pin.  Easy mode!
4/7/2011 4:03:58 AM EDT
[#21]



Quoted:


I've been laying the receiver down on its side and installing the pivot pin with part of the round side pushing the pin into the hole then as I get the pin in further I turn it til the pin pops into the grove, job done.... we don't need no stinkin' tools for a simple job like that.


Exactly what I did for my first build.

 
4/7/2011 6:12:11 AM EDT
[#22]
The 23&P has a blue print for making the tool, or you can just use a Allen wrench.
4/7/2011 6:23:02 AM EDT
[#23]
Or you could just go with the KNS push button take down and pivot pin set and forget the silly detent all together. Looks good, works good, makes life real easy. Although I really do like the suggestion about using a dowel rod with a hole drilled in it. Thats very clever. Think I'll have to do that for my next build. Bravo sir.
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