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Posted: 3/31/2007 12:38:16 AM EDT
| When I have an empty gun with the bolt open, i smack the back of the rifle on the stock and the bolt slams home. Is that normal or should it stay in back in the open position??? thanks |
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Pretty well known fact. Just use caution if the weapon has a loaded mag inserted in the mag well. You could accidentally chamber a round. ETA: I believe that warning is a typo though. It should read “rearward position” not “forward position”. I’m not sure if this typo was ever caught and later corrected. But you get the idea.  |
It probably isn't a typo. You can clear a jammed/non extracted round from the chamber by slamming the butt on the ground so slamming the butt down on an unchambered,yet closed bolt, could very well cause the bolt carrier to travel back enough to strip and chamber a round. |
| The only thing that keeps the bolt catch up and holding the bolt open is friction between the bolt and the catch. And the catch is sprung to stay DOWN. So if you do anything that moves the bolt off the catch for the smallest period of time, the catch will spring down and the bolt will close. Make sense? |
You can clear a jammed/non extracted round from the chamber by slamming the butt on the ground with the assistance of the charging handle. But by simply slamming the butt of the rifle on the ground? I'm not quite sure about that.  |
| On my deployment in 2004, one of our bright ones let off a round on post. Claimed that he dropped his weapon and a round slam fired or some bullshit. Noone believed him for a second because he was the company idiot and was known for fingerfucking his weapon. That day, to test the theory a couple of junior NCO's slammed the shit out of an M16A2 on the deck that was in condition 3. Eventually, they got a round to chamber. |
So if I understand your post correctly, with a loaded mag inserted and the bolt forward and locked, they hit the butt stock hard enough on the deck to throw the whole bolt and carrier to the rear with enough momentum to pick up and chamber a round? |
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We're talking about slamming the mofo REALLY, REALLY HARD to get it to do this, right? And the bolt is really forward and locked when this eventually happens? I gotta ask: is there anything left of the stock when you get the rifle to unlock and the BCG to move far enough back to chamber a round by slamming it around like this? |
My thoughts exactly. |
Yes, you do have to be pretty determined apparently. I've heard the stories as told above, but never done it myself with an AR. It's also a common method of clearing mini14's and I have done that myself. |
It probably isn't a typo. You can clear a jammed/non extracted round from the chamber by slamming the butt on the ground so slamming the butt down on an unchambered,yet closed bolt, could very well cause the bolt carrier to travel back enough to strip and chamber a round. We're talking about 3" here, thats some serious abuse |
Agreed but military weapons take alot of abuse. A rifle sliding off of a tank turret and onto it's butt on the pavement may well be abusive, but I'd bet that sort of thing happens in the military with soldiers more often than we'd like to think. A guy tripping over something on the run may well fall forward slamming his rifles butt on the ground. I'm sure it's not common, but as pointed out by 0612Devil above, it can happen if all the factors are against you or you are putting it to the test with intent. |
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