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4/2/2015 11:55:57 PM EDT
One of the few things that irk me about the AR platform is the sound of the spring in the buffer tube.

Yeah, yeah... First-world problems.

Anyone familiar with the JP Enterprises Silent Spring System? Good? Bad? Ugly?

Thanks.

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4/3/2015 12:05:46 AM EDT
[#1]
I run one in my sbr. I use it with a 8.5" 300blk upper and 10.5" 5.56 upper. Action is silky smooth and no "sproiiing" noise. It is high, IMHO it needs to be under $100.

Upgrade it if there is nothing else you wish to upgrade first, like the trigger, sights, charging handles and things like that.
4/3/2015 12:07:38 AM EDT
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Fortunately, I'm all set on triggers and sights.

Optics is a different story.
4/3/2015 12:25:24 AM EDT
[#3]
The good: Works and is quiet.

The bad: Very expensive.

If the sound is your main complaint get the Tubbs flat wire buffer spring for $25 from Brownells
It will take most of the noise away and will never need replacement in your lifetime since its chrome silicon.

Watch this video to become a buffer spring expert and see why the flat wire is better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fMVZbrnvu8#t=27
4/3/2015 12:26:02 AM EDT
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Fortunately, I'm all set on triggers and sights.

Optics is a different story.
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I would get optics sorted out first. The silent captured spring would be a great final upgrade, if there is such a thing.
4/3/2015 12:26:58 AM EDT
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The good: Works and is quiet.

The bad: Very expensive.

If the sound is your main complaint get the Tubbs flat wire buffer spring for $25 from Brownells
It will take most of the noise away and will never need replacement in your lifetime since its chrome silicon.

Watch this video to become a buffer spring expert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fMVZbrnvu8#t=27
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Don't forget silky smooth action!
4/3/2015 12:40:35 AM EDT
[#6]
Have one, been using it for about a year, and love it. It does what its advertised to do, my rifle cycles just little better, at the least it sounds like it is.
4/3/2015 1:03:59 AM EDT
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One of the few things that irk me about the AR platform is the sound of the spring in the buffer tube.





Yeah, yeah... First-world problems.





Anyone familiar with the JP Enterprises Silent Spring System? Good? Bad? Ugly?





Thanks.





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I run them in my suppressed SBRs and I have no complaints.  Pricey, but like you I was sick of hearing the stock spring sproing sound.





8.2" 300BLK suppressed with the JP spring is awesome.  





 
4/3/2015 1:33:26 AM EDT
[#8]
Have one in my 16" midlength.  It does take the annoying "sproing" out.
4/3/2015 1:39:43 AM EDT
[#9]
I like mine. Runs great. Would be better at 75-100 instead of 130 but I'd buy again. I'm interested in the 5 spring set the offer for it to custom tune even further.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/487681/jp-enterprises-alternate-spring-pack-for-ar-15-silent-captured-spring-recoil-buffer?cm_vc=ProductFinding
4/3/2015 2:01:25 AM EDT
[#10]
Like has been mentioned, it is an expensive upgrade... but it does make for a smoother action... screw in your buffer tube so that the JPSC is making slight contact with your bcg and all the buffer clunks and impacts are gone... no blot slap no spring noise... just a kachunk of the bolt locking in. I absolutely put one in on a suppressed rifle, not so much in a rifle I dont run suppressed much.
4/3/2015 2:56:37 AM EDT
[#11]
I have 3 AR-15s, and one in each rifle. They are expensive, but they are really nice.
4/3/2015 4:37:15 AM EDT
[#12]
I put a small amount of CLP in my buffer tube. What "sproing" sound?
 
4/3/2015 5:18:11 AM EDT
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I put a small amount of CLP in my buffer tube. What "sproing" sound?  
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Came here to say this. I coat my spring with CLP and don't hear shit for spring noise.

A fancy sound suppressor spring is unnecessary.
4/3/2015 6:03:21 AM EDT
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I have one in my only .300 SBR and it works well.

It is a tad too expensive but it works...

I did have to put a quarter inside the bottom of my tube to get reliable feeding though.
4/3/2015 7:08:18 AM EDT
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I do this as well. I also have the Damage Industries chrome silicon spring in both my rifles.
4/3/2015 7:21:08 AM EDT
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I put a small amount of CLP in my buffer tube. What "sproing" sound?  
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This, although I use a little grease inside the tube. Quiets it down and it's pretty cheap.
4/3/2015 10:07:54 AM EDT
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Anyone running one of the flat-coil springs spoken about in the video referenced above?

This particular rifle will most likely not run suppressed anytime soon.
4/3/2015 10:11:44 AM EDT
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I have one in my only .300 SBR and it works well.

It is a tad too expensive but it works...

I did have to put a quarter inside the bottom of my tube to get reliable feeding though.
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You don't need a quarter in there.  Just thread in your extension until the bcg is kissing the buffer.
4/3/2015 10:17:55 AM EDT
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Came here to say this. I coat my spring with CLP and don't hear shit for spring noise.

A fancy sound suppressor spring is unnecessary.
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I put a small amount of CLP in my buffer tube. What "sproing" sound?  

Came here to say this. I coat my spring with CLP and don't hear shit for spring noise.

A fancy sound suppressor spring is unnecessary.

I did the same , it's not the same. The JPSCS  eliminates more than just spring noise. If I stuck with "necessary" all I would have was a bolt action .223
4/3/2015 10:50:07 AM EDT
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Anyone running one of the flat-coil springs spoken about in the video referenced above?



This particular rifle will most likely not run suppressed anytime soon.
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I have the Tubb, I was using it for awhile in my bump gun.  I wasn't paying much attention to spring noise, just putting rounds on target at 750rpm  I swapped it for a SPRINCO orange because I wanted more spring pressure.  Worked fine, is a bit of a pain to get past the buffer detent because it's not rounded like a standard spring.
4/3/2015 11:28:58 AM EDT
[#21]
recently tried the jp scs. After first test session. I ordered some. What a difference. Smooth is the best way to describe it. Tuned the gas system and scs to match and wow!
More costly than I like but still had to buy
4/3/2015 12:21:22 PM EDT
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recently tried the jp scs. After first test session. I ordered some. What a difference. Smooth is the best way to describe it. Tuned the gas system and scs to match and wow!
More costly than I like but still had to buy
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IMO tuning the gas system to the JPSCS is critical to gaining all the advantage it can provide. I used the lightest spring set and an adjustable gasblock ( i was going to use a low mass carrier but I wanted  reliability over a wider spread of ammo) and it resulted in a very smooth operating and quiet AR. It is hard to past the initial kick in the nuts... which is the price. In the big picture when considering ammo expenditures, the pain recedes quickly
4/3/2015 1:11:18 PM EDT
[#23]
Tubb's flatwire as others have said, is great. No "sprong!" noise.
4/3/2015 2:48:16 PM EDT
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I guess I'm lucky.  I've been reading about the "sproing" for quite awhile now and I have to confess that having fired whole shipload of AR's I've never heard (or noticed, at least) the sproing.  

Maybe it's the hearos hearing protection, but how you could hear a spring over the sound of a .223 round going off is beyond me.
4/3/2015 2:54:22 PM EDT
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I guess I'm lucky.  I've been reading about the "sproing" for quite awhile now and I have to confess that having fired whole shipload of AR's I've never heard (or noticed, at least) the sproing.  

Maybe it's the hearos hearing protection, but how you could hear a spring over the sound of a .223 round going off is beyond me.
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As a few have stated in this thread, it shines in suppressed rifles.
4/3/2015 4:01:14 PM EDT
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I guess I'm lucky.  I've been reading about the "sproing" for quite awhile now and I have to confess that having fired whole shipload of AR's I've never heard (or noticed, at least) the sproing.  

Maybe it's the hearos hearing protection, but how you could hear a spring over the sound of a .223 round going off is beyond me.
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Having shot many ar15s, m4s, m16s, at home and in the sandbox, I will say the springy noise really gets on my nerves. I if you don't think you are hearing spring noise then do not, I repeat do not, try one of the silent captured springs, you can never go back.

Now that I have used one, I will never be able to shoot another ar15 without one because of the noise alone. But it is also very smooth. You just have to try it to understand it.

And yes, pricey.

Without the JPS spring I can hear the spring noise unsuppressed but when shooting 300 BLK suppressed it is really obnoxious!
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