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1/30/2016 2:30:53 AM EDT
I've recently been considering getting the JP captured buffer spring. I'm currently using a standard spring and H buffer. What standard components are considered equal to the JP spring? Example, standard spring w/ carbine buffer...

Any info appreciated, Im new to the JP spring....
1/30/2016 2:59:45 PM EDT
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I've recently been considering getting the JP captured buffer spring. I'm currently using a standard spring and H buffer. What standard components are considered equal to the JP spring? Example, standard spring w/ carbine buffer...

Any info appreciated, Im new to the JP spring....
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If your running an adjustable gas block you should be able to dial in the standard weight Silent Captured Spring. Id try that first. I have two of them. One is in an 18"  JP barrel with rifle gas system, JP Adjustable gas block, an JP low mass BCG. The other is in a 18 Green Mountain rifle gas barrel, AIM full mass BCG, and SLR gas block. Both rifles run fine with the standard weight SCS in the factory configuration.
1/30/2016 3:08:52 PM EDT
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fyi, the Tubb flatwire spring is also silent.
1/31/2016 10:54:38 AM EDT
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IIRC the Jp scs standard is equal to a carbine spring and buffer the tungsten version is the h2 equivalent if I'm not mistaken. JP customer service is e treacle helpful.
1/31/2016 12:48:29 PM EDT
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fyi, the Tubb flatwire spring is also silent.
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Not really.

If you want a JP silent captured spring I would wait till they release the gen 2 that reduces weight by 2 ounces. These things are heavy.
1/31/2016 2:20:49 PM EDT
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Yes, really. But you can spend $100+ on this thing if it makes you feel better.



edit - the reason why is because it doesn't oscillate back and forth after the buffer stops like the round wire spring. That's what you're hearing in the Nick Leghorn video. Add a little grease also.

1/31/2016 3:27:21 PM EDT
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Just wondering, but is the sole purpose of these products to eliminate the spring BOING/Twang?
1/31/2016 5:42:53 PM EDT
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Just wondering, but is the sole purpose of these products to eliminate the spring BOING/Twang?
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Yes and it makes for a smoother cycling action. You don't get the feeling of that in your cheek either.
1/31/2016 6:13:21 PM EDT
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How much smoother vs selecting a good quality spring and proper buffer weight ICW using an adjustable gas block?



I've never noticed the spring noise aside from loading/unloading/checking clear. I can't say I've ever noticed the spring rubbing feeling while shooting either.  
1/31/2016 10:46:28 PM EDT
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I don't have a Tubb Flat chrome silicon spring, but I have a sprinco chrome silicon "red" spring in my AR308 and a crappy steel spring in my small frame sbr.  I've read people say that the CS spring is quieter than the steel spring, and my experience has been the same.  my red sprinco spring does not have that loud sproing sound. But, from what I can tell, the JP silent spring is still even quieter.  But this is the real thing...for $135, the only way you'll really notice a difference is if you're using a suppressor.  Without a suppressor, my recommendation is go with a CS spring.  Even with a suppressor, I can't justify $135 for a buffer spring given that the $25 CS spring gets rid of the sproingy sound.





My question is, why hasn't a company made a cheaper version of the JP silent spring...there are discussions/vids on how to make your own silent spring using a 1911 recoil spring.  







Has anyone ever sprayed anything like this inside their buffer tube?  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001URKV0G  I'm sure it could narrow the inside diameter of the tube and cause all sorts of problems, but a thin layer might help.  But I'm not going to try it just yet.  










 
1/31/2016 11:27:59 PM EDT
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I was using a standard rifle buffer and spring in a MOE rifle stock on a 16" mid length rifle.  I was getting a very strong  vibration when firing the rifle.  Made the rifle feel like a water noodle when firing.  I bit the bullet and add the JP silent capture spring.  The rifle is amazing now.  VERY smooth operation and of course no more pogo stick noise.  The recoil impulse is very different but IMHO better than a standard coil spring and buffer combo.  I thought it was a gimmick for sure but I am now a convert and would recommend it to anyone.
2/1/2016 3:20:42 AM EDT
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Has anyone ever sprayed anything like this inside their buffer tube?  http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001URKV0G  I'm sure it could narrow the inside diameter of the tube and cause all sorts of problems, but a thin layer might help.  But I'm not going to try it just yet.  
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I hope your just kidding... that insulator spray is meant to be put on the floor boards for road noise. The spring won't move once that is sprayed inside.

I picked up some Damage Industries springs and greased the inside of the tube and noise dropped to where I didn't even notice it on the last range trip.
They are on sale again it looks like.  
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