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Posted: 1/7/2010 4:30:55 AM EDT
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Realy been considering the Knights Armament SR 15 rifle
is it worth the price ?? if it matters I am kinda newish to ARs and current have a bone stock Colt 6920 that I have shot a lot and like but started looking into something with a mid length system and some how wound up fixated on the SR 15 just curious if anyone has any experience with the rifle thanks and yes I am happy with the colt and will continue to shoot the hell out of it just ready for rifle number 2 - or should a go with a LWRCI  I am not yet sold on the piston AR
oh and the larue stealth uppers - I cant tell from pics, is it offered with a midlength system with a 16" or 18" barrel ??? thanks again |
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Go with the KAC sr15. The complete rifle price (with all of the upgrades / add-ons) is well worth the ~2k price tag IMHO. There have been many discussions on this topic and what the thread digresses to or typically flushes out is (but not limited to):
the sr15 is a good deal for what you get for the money (urx, barrel, bolt, ambi controls, QD's, stock, etc) the sr15 is not liked because it has a non-standard ar bolt the sr15 or a noveske are typically considered the two "best overall" higher end DI ar's people question why anyone would want a sr15 and the high list price when you can get a colt or BCM for much cheaper and take the savings and add accessories buy a piston as it is cleaner, runs cooler, better for a can, etc. versus the ar platform was not designed to be a piston, has carrier tilt, and a DI gun works just fine etc..... Certainly those are not all of the arguments but most of them. I have an sr15 e3 iws and several colts. My favorite is the sr15 by far as it functions flawlessly, is accruate and has much less recoil and is light as hell. The colts run just fine too but I gravitate to the sr15. I want to pick up a noveske next and then maybe I will try a Piston. I guess my opinion on pistons is that I would prefer a gun built around the piston desing form the ground up but MANY peoples (with much more experience than me) absolutely love their piston ar's. I would go with the KAC and nver look back and in the event that it doesn't suit your needs, there is a strong market for the rifle as a whole or the lower / upper by themselves to sell of without losing much if not any of your initial investment. My sneaking suspicion is that you will love the KAC and it will become your favorite rifle very quickly. On a side note (full disclosure) I did have some accuracy issues on my KAC out of the box. I sent ti back to KAC and they replaced the upper and the have not had any problems since. KAC customer service is excellent - so remember that when considering this purchase. Hope that helps you out and doesn't step on anyone else's toes. Good Luck! Jason |
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You can't build an SR15 for the purchase price. If you could pick up a 6920 for $1k, you might get close, but that is all you would be, close.
I own one, it is probably my favorite rifle, and I still hate it for having expensive, proprietary parts ($400 bolt). The barrel profile is amazing, the ambi safety is annoying, and the accuracy is acceptable, but nothing to write home about. I can't think of another rifle I'd more highly recommend for police and military use, however. |
| Out of all the rifles I own, the KAC is by far my favorite. As others have stated, the only issue anyone may have are the proprietary bolt and barrel extension. I have a 10.5" LWRC M6A2 and even though it's a SBR, it still feels heavier than the KAC E3. All I could suggest is actually hold one and shoulder it, you may just fall in love like others and I have. I love it so much, I bought another one as a back up even though I may not ever need it. |
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For a safe queen sr15 is probably a good idea. for shtf you might wanna consider something that doesn't use proprietary parts. for SHTF. I'd say LWRC YMMV. Kinda contradicting your self there aren't ya? Something that doesn't use proprietary parts but then recommend LWRC of which the operating system is chock full of proprietary parts. |
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For a safe queen sr15 is probably a good idea. for shtf you might wanna consider something that doesn't use proprietary parts. for SHTF. I'd say LWRC YMMV. Kinda contradicting your self there aren't ya? Something that doesn't use proprietary parts but then recommend LWRC of which the operating system is chock full of proprietary parts. The BCG are not proprietary on an LWRC. The LWRC will also probably run longer without service or lube WITH that proprietary piston system/gas block. See what I'm saying. That doesn't make it any better or worse than the other options, just something different to think about. Personally I wish I could have one of all 3!!! SR15, LWRC, and a Stealth. 
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For a safe queen sr15 is probably a good idea. for shtf you might wanna consider something that doesn't use proprietary parts. for SHTF. I'd say LWRC YMMV. Kinda contradicting your self there aren't ya? Something that doesn't use proprietary parts but then recommend LWRC of which the operating system is chock full of proprietary parts. The BCG are not proprietary on an LWRC. The LWRC will also probably run longer without service or lube WITH that proprietary piston system/gas block. See what I'm saying. That doesn't make it any better or worse than the other options, just something different to think about. Personally I wish I could have one of all 3!!! SR15, LWRC, and a Stealth. The BCG is not propriety? In what parallel universe is it not? The bolt may be the same as every other AR but the carrier sure is different which is C in BCG. It uses a piston which is different than a gas tube of the average everyday AR so yeah, it is full of proprietary parts. Doesn't matter how long it may run or not without lube. The point You made was not to get the KAC because of proprietary parts and then say you would take the LWRC which has it's own proprietary parts. |
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Does the KAC use proprietary parts ? if the answer is yes then my answer is no. I believe, and someone can correct me if I am wrong, but the gas tube (length), barrel extension and bolt are all propietary. Knights does sell the bolts now though, so you could buy spares. |
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For a safe queen sr15 is probably a good idea. for shtf you might wanna consider something that doesn't use proprietary parts. for SHTF. I'd say LWRC YMMV. Kinda contradicting your self there aren't ya? Something that doesn't use proprietary parts but then recommend LWRC of which the operating system is chock full of proprietary parts. The BCG are not proprietary on an LWRC. The LWRC will also probably run longer without service or lube WITH that proprietary piston system/gas block. See what I'm saying. That doesn't make it any better or worse than the other options, just something different to think about. Personally I wish I could have one of all 3!!! SR15, LWRC, and a Stealth. The BCG is not propriety? In what parallel universe is it not? The bolt may be the same as every other AR but the carrier sure is different which is C in BCG. It uses a piston which is different than a gas tube of the average everyday AR so yeah, it is full of proprietary parts. Doesn't matter how long it may run or not without lube. The point You made was not to get the KAC because of proprietary parts and then say you would take the LWRC which has it's own proprietary parts. The likelihood of a bolt or cam pin breaking or key staking coming loose is much higher than a one piece carrier snapping. If I missed the threads where those one piece carriers break after so many rounds please link me up. |
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For a safe queen sr15 is probably a good idea. for shtf you might wanna consider something that doesn't use proprietary parts. for SHTF. I'd say LWRC YMMV.  The LWRC is a big pile of propriety parts.
What they changed on the KAC will make it last longer without breaking, I think they even said they will replace your bolt for free if you break it before 30k rounds. |
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