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8/15/2026 2:43:15 PM EDT
My question is, do you expect to see a lot of these coming in the future from different manufacturers, and also to people who already have them? Are the rails heavy, or do you prefer them over an upper and a separate rail?
8/15/2026 4:01:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -OdieGreen-][Edited] [#1]
I’d almost bet money some of the big names are sitting on ready to go designs. They’d be crazy not to.

I just hope they aren’t dumb enough to use proprietary barrels and that someone makes quad options.
8/15/2026 4:09:50 PM EDT
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1. LMT is gay
2. Mega arms did the best monolithic upper and I hope they come back
3. LMT is gay
8/15/2026 4:19:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KitBuilder][Edited] [#3]
Yes I expect to see more of them.

Monolithic is lighter than a separate forend. The downside is proprietary parts, and if part of it is damaged then the whole upper is damaged.

Ideally we’ll get new monolithic uppers that allow adaptation of standard AR barrels to be compatible.
8/15/2026 4:21:14 PM EDT
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People thought the same thing with the KAC bolt thing and it didn’t really take off.
8/15/2026 4:25:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Smurgeon:
1. LMT is gay
2. Mega arms did the best monolithic upper and I hope they come back
3. LMT is gay
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8/15/2026 5:33:45 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By dalle0001:
People thought the same thing with the KAC bolt thing and it didn’t really take off.
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KAC also has crazy pricing, active patents, and extremely untrustworthy production support.
8/15/2026 5:36:42 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KitBuilder:
Yes I expect to see more of them.

Monolithic is lighter than a separate forend....
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Is it in practice? Every LMT mono I've handled was super front heavy, like 'whoa' front heavy, I assume due to the mono rail.
8/15/2026 6:02:11 PM EDT
[#8]
LMT design requires non-standard AR barrel. Armalite used to made its own version called COP that is compatible with standard AR barrel and was able to avoid LMT patent issue. But COP was a short-lived stint and never became mainstream products.
8/15/2026 6:06:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Is it in practice? Every LMT mono I've handled was super front heavy, like 'whoa' front heavy, I assume due to the mono rail.
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Most likely a heavier barrel.

Super front heavy would be a NM A2 upper. LMT is "need more batteries in stock storage" front heavy.
8/15/2026 6:35:22 PM EDT
[#10]
Obviously it is the stiffest possible design, but honestly I like the ability to change rails.  Makes for a more configurable rifle and there are plenty of rail options out there that are stiffer than I will ever need.
8/15/2026 6:45:45 PM EDT
[#11]
To follow up, I love/hate the Spear LT design here. Extended rail on the upper is really nice, no worries about space on the upper, still allows for changing the fore end, but then the current design of the rail lockup to the receiver is the worst part of the entire design.  If they could keep the extended upper while implementing a handguard lockup on par with an average AR free float rail, it would really be the best of all worlds.
8/15/2026 7:20:24 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By JohnnyUtah427:


 
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I wish I was half the man my dog thinks I am.

RIP SSG Marc Anthony Scialdo KIA 3-11-2013 Kandahar
8/15/2026 10:28:36 PM EDT
[#13]
I notice some are currently advertised… Icon Defense Monolithic
8/15/2026 11:19:36 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By CJofFL:
I notice some are currently advertised… Icon Defense Monolithic
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For those who don't know Icon is the old Mega crew before they sold their IP to Zev. I am sure Mike has the full monolithic offerings ready to go when LMT sunsets.
Originally Posted By bradpierson26:
So I know you're a SF whore . . . . .
8/16/2026 9:59:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DVCNick:
To follow up, I love/hate the Spear LT design here. Extended rail on the upper is really nice, no worries about space on the upper, still allows for changing the fore end, but then the current design of the rail lockup to the receiver is the worst part of the entire design.  If they could keep the extended upper while implementing a handguard lockup on par with an average AR free float rail, it would really be the best of all worlds.
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LWRC does this. Its an extended upper, and then the MLOK rail is a just a straight tube that slides right on and is secured with 10x screws, basically 'semi monolithic'. IMO this is how the AR should be made if we have a time machine to go back and change the design; when the patent expires hopefully it becomes popular.

Pictures I took of mine when I swapped out the old rail for a new mlok one:

8/16/2026 9:19:42 PM EDT
[#16]
Hope to finally see some decent barrel offerings
8/17/2026 3:43:46 AM EDT
[#17]
When does the LMT patent expire?
8/17/2026 8:32:08 AM EDT
[#18]
In a handful of days. It might already have.
8/17/2026 9:17:05 AM EDT
[#19]
Would be nice to see those Colt Canada L119 uppers on the market one day…
8/17/2026 12:24:01 PM EDT
[#20]
Hopefully Colt will tool up the 6945 and 46 again with uppers too!
8/17/2026 5:45:35 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By KitBuilder:
Yes I expect to see more of them.

Monolithic is lighter than a separate forend. The downside is proprietary parts, and if part of it is damaged then the whole upper is damaged.

Ideally we’ll get new monolithic uppers that allow adaptation of standard AR barrels to be compatible.
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vs

plus the upper.

If there are any weight savings, they are minimal.  That is a lot of material.

Then there is manufacturing difficultly.
8/17/2026 6:03:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: wildearp][Edited] [#22]
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Originally Posted By Smurgeon:
1. LMT is gay
2. Mega arms did the best monolithic upper and I hope they come back
3. LMT is gay
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I have a pre-gay LMT, not monolithic.  Their upper receiver sear pocket is true mil-spec, like Colt and DD.  This is important if you run an AZ Regulator.

None of my rifles have mono and they are just fine.  
Preferred pronoun: MARINE

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