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Posted: 11/3/2015 10:02:29 AM EDT
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I was just informed that ALL lowers produced by LMT go through rigorous testing prior to sale. Apparently, they run at least 2-3 mags through it, so what you recieve will definitely show signs of use and be somewhat dirty. I know they are a Tier 1 military supplier. Personally, I think that's a testament to their quality and commitment. People looking for a show queen should look elsewhere.
Can anyone confirm this? People who bought their lowers, is it pretty evident of their testing? |
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Quoted: I was just informed that ALL lowers produced by LMT go through rigorous testing prior to sale. Apparently, they run at least 2-3 mags through it, so what you recieve will definitely show signs of use and be somewhat dirty. I know they are a Tier 1 military supplier. Personally, I think that's a testament to their quality and commitment. People looking for a show queen should look elsewhere. Can anyone confirm this? People who bought their lowers, is it pretty evident of their testing? |
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In my experience all forged lowers are created equally. I dont own an LMT Defender lower, but the only appeal I can see is its use for a clone build. It will accept a LPK or Geissele trigger no better than my Anderson Manufacturing forged or Mega Gator lowers. Quoted:
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I was just informed that ALL lowers produced by LMT go through rigorous testing prior to sale. Apparently, they run at least 2-3 mags through it, so what you recieve will definitely show signs of use and be somewhat dirty. I know they are a Tier 1 military supplier. Personally, I think that's a testament to their quality and commitment. People looking for a show queen should look elsewhere. Can anyone confirm this? People who bought their lowers, is it pretty evident of their testing? I agree with you 100%. A lower is pretty much a lower, but that's not my question. I'm curious as to if LMT really does do a 2-3 mag test and if it's apparent when you purchase one. |
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LMT lowers are the best lowers you can get. Their receiver extensions and parts are the absolute best you can get. Their standard waffle stock is even reinforced around the lock pin. I won't buy anything else anymore. Are you referring to the lower parts or the lower receiver itself? I'm a fan of their buffer tube although I don't use standard waffle stocks. Is there anything different about their receivers? |
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Quoted: Are you referring to the lower parts or the lower receiver itself? I'm a fan of their buffer tube although I don't use standard waffle stocks. Is there anything different about their receivers? Quoted: Quoted: LMT lowers are the best lowers you can get. Their receiver extensions and parts are the absolute best you can get. Their standard waffle stock is even reinforced around the lock pin. I won't buy anything else anymore. Are you referring to the lower parts or the lower receiver itself? I'm a fan of their buffer tube although I don't use standard waffle stocks. Is there anything different about their receivers? |
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Are you referring to the lower parts or the lower receiver itself? I'm a fan of their buffer tube although I don't use standard waffle stocks. Is there anything different about their receivers? I don't think the actual receiver itself is any different. The one I have works fine with BCM and Colt uppers and is the only one that fits my KAC upper for some reason. |
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Quoted: LMT lowers are the best lowers you can get. Their receiver extensions and parts are the absolute best you can get. Their standard waffle stock is even reinforced around the lock pin. I won't buy anything else anymore. |
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I have a Defender lower that was part of a complete rifle (MRP) and it's been rock solid. I just bought an A2 lower and it is waiting for an 18 upper build to be complete. I didn't notice any signs of use on either lower.
I'm comfortable with LMT and pretty sure it will be my go to lower for any more future builds. One thing I would look at, if you don't want to spend the money of the SOPMOD versions, buy the waffle stock for around $330 and just put whatever other stock you want on there. LMT is still proud of those SOPMOD's. ETA: I do have a BCM lower and a Stag lower also. No problems with either of those too, but just happy with the LMT's. |
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While I agree LMT parts are certainly "top tier", what in your opinion makes them the best. Please provide some quantifiable or objective information/data to back up your exclamation that they are the best. Quoted:
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LMT lowers are the best lowers you can get. Their receiver extensions and parts are the absolute best you can get. Their standard waffle stock is even reinforced around the lock pin. I won't buy anything else anymore. The receiver extensions are 7075, 6 position, on the large end of the mil-spec diameter, have a great buffer retaining pin retainer, the end plates have round notches that stake better with a normal punch. Their pins are parkerized. The bolt catch is serrated on both ends, makes locking it open easier. They use good stainless mil-spec springs. The only thing I knock 'em on is that their lowers come with a standard carbine buffer. But if they don't know what upper is going on it, what buffer should they put? |
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Quoted: The receiver extensions are 7075, 6 position, on the large end of the mil-spec diameter, have a great buffer retaining pin retainer, the end plates have round notches that stake better with a normal punch. Their pins are parkerized. The bolt catch is serrated on both ends, makes locking it open easier. They use good stainless mil-spec springs. The only thing I knock 'em on is that their lowers come with a standard carbine buffer. But if they don't know what upper is going on it, what buffer should they put? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: LMT lowers are the best lowers you can get. Their receiver extensions and parts are the absolute best you can get. Their standard waffle stock is even reinforced around the lock pin. I won't buy anything else anymore. The receiver extensions are 7075, 6 position, on the large end of the mil-spec diameter, have a great buffer retaining pin retainer, the end plates have round notches that stake better with a normal punch. Their pins are parkerized. The bolt catch is serrated on both ends, makes locking it open easier. They use good stainless mil-spec springs. The only thing I knock 'em on is that their lowers come with a standard carbine buffer. But if they don't know what upper is going on it, what buffer should they put? -Their pins are parkerized. The bolt catch is serrated on both ends, makes locking it open easier -They use good stainless mil-spec springs. Ok, but in what way is it "better" than say a Daniel Defense or Spikes LPK? Quantify "better." |
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Most receiver extensions on the market today are 7075 and 6 position. I am aware of the buffer retaining pin retainer, and while a novel idea, does not necessarily make the extension better. Same with the endplates. Even though they may facilitate an easier stake what makes it "better" than a mil-spec one. -Their pins are parkerized. The bolt catch is serrated on both ends, makes locking it open easier Many companies on the market today are doing (or not doing) things to make their LPK's more appealing. Spikes uses coiled roll pins for example. Seekins sells special billet bolt catch and mag releases. -They use good stainless mil-spec springs. Ok, but in what way is it "better" than say a Daniel Defense or Spikes LPK? Quantify "better." Quoted:
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LMT lowers are the best lowers you can get. Their receiver extensions and parts are the absolute best you can get. Their standard waffle stock is even reinforced around the lock pin. I won't buy anything else anymore. The receiver extensions are 7075, 6 position, on the large end of the mil-spec diameter, have a great buffer retaining pin retainer, the end plates have round notches that stake better with a normal punch. Their pins are parkerized. The bolt catch is serrated on both ends, makes locking it open easier. They use good stainless mil-spec springs. The only thing I knock 'em on is that their lowers come with a standard carbine buffer. But if they don't know what upper is going on it, what buffer should they put? -Their pins are parkerized. The bolt catch is serrated on both ends, makes locking it open easier Many companies on the market today are doing (or not doing) things to make their LPK's more appealing. Spikes uses coiled roll pins for example. Seekins sells special billet bolt catch and mag releases. -They use good stainless mil-spec springs. Ok, but in what way is it "better" than say a Daniel Defense or Spikes LPK? Quantify "better." I told you why I like 'em. I can also call LMT and talk to someone right now who knows their products, order stuff and have it in a few days. I don't look for reasons not to buy LMT. I don't think they're the only good manufacturer either. Their receiver extension parts are mil-spec. Ever heard of the SOCOM SOPMOD and MK18? You want a bag 'o dicks ahoy matey lower parts kit, fuckin' go for it. |
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Quoted: I told you why I like 'em. I can also call LMT and talk to someone right now who knows their products, order stuff and have it in a few days. I don't look for reasons not to buy LMT. I don't think they're the only good manufacturer either. Their receiver extension parts are mil-spec. Ever heard of the SOCOM SOPMOD and MK18? You want a bag 'o dicks ahoy matey lower parts kit, fuckin' go for it. |
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As much as we all enjoy the scintillating banter, it's still off-topic. I didn't ask about the quality, which we all can agree is pretty good. I didn't ask to compare lowers, or if certain LPK's from dick-logo companies are better than others.
All I wanted to know is... for those with LMT lowers, is it evident upon receiving the lower (new) that it's been test-fired 90+ rounds? e.g., powder residue, lube, etc. |
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As much as we all enjoy the scintillating banter, it's still off-topic. I didn't ask about the quality, which we all can agree is pretty good. I didn't ask to compare lowers, or if certain LPK's from dick-logo companies are better than others. All I wanted to know is... for those with LMT lowers, is it evident upon receiving the lower (new) that it's been test-fired 90+ rounds? e.g., powder residue, lube, etc. No. I have two complete LMT lowers purchased new as lowers and they didn't look fired. They do come with a hand filled out inspection checklist. |
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You told me why you like them, not why they're better. I didn't say that I like Spikes or any other brand, all I did was compare some of their advantages to the advantages that you perceive with LMT. This is a technical forum and if you cant provide a technical explanation to why they're better then go to GD and rant and rave about them all you want. Quoted:
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I told you why I like 'em. I can also call LMT and talk to someone right now who knows their products, order stuff and have it in a few days. I don't look for reasons not to buy LMT. I don't think they're the only good manufacturer either. Their receiver extension parts are mil-spec. Ever heard of the SOCOM SOPMOD and MK18? You want a bag 'o dicks ahoy matey lower parts kit, fuckin' go for it. Better is a matter of opinion. There's people who think M1s has the best shit 'cause it's cheap. I stated why Ilike LMT and now what do you want? |
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Quoted: Better is a matter of opinion. There's people who think M1s has the best shit 'cause it's cheap. I stated why Ilike LMT and now what do you want? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I told you why I like 'em. I can also call LMT and talk to someone right now who knows their products, order stuff and have it in a few days. I don't look for reasons not to buy LMT. I don't think they're the only good manufacturer either. Their receiver extension parts are mil-spec. Ever heard of the SOCOM SOPMOD and MK18? You want a bag 'o dicks ahoy matey lower parts kit, fuckin' go for it. Better is a matter of opinion. There's people who think M1s has the best shit 'cause it's cheap. I stated why Ilike LMT and now what do you want?  This is offtrack and my last post. Good luck to the OP in your search for your answer, and also to you samuse in your search for logic... |
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You stated they were better. I asked you why they were better. Instead of telling me why they are better you told me why you like them.
This is offtrack and my last post. Good luck to the OP in your search for your answer, and also to you samuse in your search for logic... Quoted:
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I told you why I like 'em. I can also call LMT and talk to someone right now who knows their products, order stuff and have it in a few days. I don't look for reasons not to buy LMT. I don't think they're the only good manufacturer either. Their receiver extension parts are mil-spec. Ever heard of the SOCOM SOPMOD and MK18? You want a bag 'o dicks ahoy matey lower parts kit, fuckin' go for it. Better is a matter of opinion. There's people who think M1s has the best shit 'cause it's cheap. I stated why Ilike LMT and now what do you want?
This is offtrack and my last post. Good luck to the OP in your search for your answer, and also to you samuse in your search for logic... I told you why they were best yo me and then you just wanted to start some idiotic banter. When USSOCOM and KAC starts using bag 'o dicks parts I may reconsider. Until then, LMT lower parts are the best. And that is now an indisputable fact. Does that make sense to you now? |
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