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6/14/2006 8:12:25 PM EDT
I decided to splurge on a new stock and for some reason i'm drawn to LMT SOPMOD stock.
My Bushmaster stock rattles in every position including closed and there is enough play between the stock and tube to annoy me. I noticed while watching video of myself at a recent shoot, that my stock was actually wiggling with every shot. I shot accurate rapid fire at multiple targets but couldn't help but notice the stock/tube play is excessive. Now it's driving me crazy. So, it's new stock time.

How tight does the LMT SOPMOD stock fit on the milspec tube?

I know my tube isn't milspec diameter, so i'll need the complete kit. My stock moves/wiggles approximately 3/16" side to side.

How happy are you guys that own them?

Thanks guys!

HS1
6/14/2006 8:22:58 PM EDT
[#1]
Mine doesn't move at all. How happy am I with mine? I've ordered another one for my lightweight carbine and probably will order another one for my 20" rifle. I debated forever on ordering one but it was money well spent.
6/14/2006 9:07:43 PM EDT
[#2]
Very snug....  slight resistance when pulling out or collapsing.  No rattle.  No play.
6/14/2006 11:24:56 PM EDT
[#3]
When I first got mine I was suprised at how tight it was, almost to tight.  Once it has been moved a couple of time it is great.  No rattle, no play.  I had a Vltor before the SOPMOD and I will never go back.  SOPMOD is the only way to go IMO.
6/14/2006 11:38:29 PM EDT
[#4]

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Very snug....  slight resistance when pulling out or collapsing.  No rattle.  No play.



Yep, exactly.
6/15/2006 4:15:46 AM EDT
[#5]

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Very snug....  slight resistance when pulling out or collapsing.  No rattle.  No play.





Very good way of explaining it.



6/15/2006 5:29:46 AM EDT
[#6]
My stock moving around didn't really bother me until I clicked on this thread...

If I wanted to install one of these stocks on my Bushy,do I have to get the "kit" plus a differant buffer tube ? Or,can I just use the existing guts instead of getting the "kit" ? How many positions does the SOPMOD have ?
6/15/2006 6:26:21 AM EDT
[#7]

Quoted:
Very snug....  slight resistance when pulling out or collapsing.  No rattle.  No play.



+1 I own two...
6/15/2006 6:35:41 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
My stock moving around didn't really bother me until I clicked on this thread...

If I wanted to install one of these stocks on my Bushy,do I have to get the "kit" plus a differant buffer tube ? Or,can I just use the existing guts instead of getting the "kit" ? How many positions does the SOPMOD have ?



To install on your bushmaster you'll need the kit with buffer tube. You can use your existing internals as long as you have a carbine spring and buffer.
The standard tube included with the LMT SOPMOD is a 5 position, you could also use a 4 position Colt or a 6 position CMT tube.
Jason
6/15/2006 6:38:27 AM EDT
[#9]
What is the cost difference between making a buffer tube Milspec vs non-Milspec?  Is there that much of a price difference that some companys use the Non-Milspec?
6/15/2006 6:55:23 AM EDT
[#10]
Does anyone have the link to the thread about how to snug up your stock body on the buffer tube?

Thanks, and please excuse the near thread 'jacking...
6/15/2006 7:09:45 AM EDT
[#11]
Thanks guys!

That's what I wanted to hear. This rattling is driving me nuts.

Thanks for the pic Stick!

I guess it's time to check the EE for the cheapest price on the complete kit.
I'll sell my other stock in the EE to help offset costs.

HS1
6/15/2006 10:37:42 AM EDT
[#12]

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Stick,is that an accessory butt pad? If so,where can I get one like it.
I have one of these stocks on my carbine and it's very snug fitting w/o any rattles. Not sure if it's a clone,Crane,or LMT. How would I know the difference?
Clint
6/15/2006 12:12:15 PM EDT
[#13]

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img147.imageshack.us/img147/3025/gotnosoul3stick7iq.jpg



Stick,is that an accessory butt pad? If so,where can I get one like it.
I have one of these stocks on my carbine and it's very snug fitting w/o any rattles. Not sure if it's a clone,Crane,or LMT. How would I know the difference?
Clint



It's a removable butt pad.  They come with the SOPMOD stock.  I don't see why anyone would want to take it off though, it's quite comfortable and it 'sticks' to the shoulder better, IMO.

Look at the lever on the bottom, at the front it should say LMT... if it's not it's an airsoft stock.  LMT SPOMOD is the CRANE stock.
6/15/2006 12:35:02 PM EDT
[#14]

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..... Stick, is that an accessory butt pad? If so,where can I get one like it.
I have one of these stocks on my carbine and it's very snug fitting w/o any rattles. Not sure if it's a clone,Crane,or LMT. How would I know the difference?
Clint



My SOPMOD has the same rubber pad, so I believe it it "stock". As for telling a clone or not, my LMT has patent info molded on the right side. And the adjusting lever has a small "circled LMT" above the knurled griping surface, right beside the steel stud. Here is a pick of the patent,  



The left side has no markings....



And LMT says they are the sole licensed manufacturer of the SOPMOD. So any civvy' encountered ones should have those markings, or it is most likely a patent knock-off.


6/15/2006 12:37:15 PM EDT
[#15]
I love mine.  The cheek weld is 10x better than the old Bushie 4 position I had for a while.  The tube that came with it is 6 position.  There's no play or rattle with it.  It does have storage tubes that I suppose you could stick batteries in, but I tried them with AAs for my EOTech, and it's too short for three of them in a tube, and rattles a lot with 2 in there.  I suppose it would be decent for copies of NFA paperwork if you have such things though.

The rubber pad is also rather nice.  The old plastic endplate isn't too comfy if you're wearing just a T-shirt.
6/15/2006 2:17:32 PM EDT
[#16]

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My SOPMOD has the same rubber pad, so I believe it it "stock". As for telling a clone or not, my LMT has patent info molded on the right side. And the adjusting lever has a small "circled LMT" above the knurled griping surface, right beside the steel stud. Here is a pick of the patent,  
And LMT says they are the sole licensed manufacturer of the SOPMOD. So any civvy' encountered ones should have those markings, or it is most likely a patent knock-off.



My butt pad looks just like yours. From the angle of the photo,I thought Stickman's pad was thicker than ours.
Crane made these stocks before LMT got the contract,,right? How were they marked? The original Cranes are bringing alot more money than the LMT unit's $200 so there must be some way to differentiate the two stocks from one another.
6/15/2006 3:39:19 PM EDT
[#17]

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My butt pad looks just like yours. From the angle of the photo,I thought Stickman's pad was thicker than ours.




Its the wider angle lens shot at an angle that draws the picture out.  If I would have shot it from a distance using the soom, the picture would have looked compressed.
6/15/2006 4:14:57 PM EDT
[#18]

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I decided to splurge on a new stock and for some reason i'm drawn to LMT SOPMOD stock.
My Bushmaster stock rattles in every position including closed and there is enough play between the stock and tube to annoy me. I noticed while watching video of myself at a recent shoot, that my stock was actually wiggling with every shot. I shot accurate rapid fire at multiple targets but couldn't help but notice the stock/tube play is excessive. Now it's driving me crazy. So, it's new stock time.

How tight does the LMT SOPMOD stock fit on the milspec tube?

I know my tube isn't milspec diameter, so i'll need the complete kit. My stock moves/wiggles approximately 3/16" side to side.

How happy are you guys that own them?

Thanks guys!

HS1



I was just watching some south Fl unofficial AR15.com shoot videos on Google (#7).  Which guy are you?  I like the Bubba burgers cooking away on that little George Foreman.  
6/15/2006 4:16:31 PM EDT
[#19]

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I guess it's time to check the EE for the cheapest price on the complete kit.
I'll sell my other stock in the EE to help offset costs.

HS1



I bought mine from These Guys, best prices I could find.
6/15/2006 4:43:39 PM EDT
[#20]

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Quoted:
I guess it's time to check the EE for the cheapest price on the complete kit.
I'll sell my other stock in the EE to help offset costs.

HS1



I bought mine from These Guys, best prices I could find.



Wow,that's a great price,thanks.
6/15/2006 4:59:01 PM EDT
[#21]
tag
6/15/2006 5:04:04 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I guess it's time to check the EE for the cheapest price on the complete kit.
I'll sell my other stock in the EE to help offset costs.

HS1



I bought mine from These Guys, best prices I could find.



Damn.  That's a smoking hot price.  Wish I had found them before purchasing mine.
6/15/2006 5:15:27 PM EDT
[#23]

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Damn.  That's a smoking hot price.  Wish I had found them before purchasing mine.



Glad I could help. The guy that ownes the place said they just started selling stuff online last year. Asked if I could "tell my friends about us".
6/15/2006 5:42:22 PM EDT
[#24]

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Damn.  That's a smoking hot price.  Wish I had found them before purchasing mine.



Glad I could help. The guy that ownes the place said they just started selling stuff online last year. Asked if I could "tell my friends about us".



Man, those guys' prices are pretty good.  

ETA:  Shit!  They've got LMT Uppers for less than 400.  Is this for real?
6/15/2006 7:26:27 PM EDT
[#25]

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Man, those guys' prices are pretty good.  

ETA:  Shit!  They've got LMT Uppers for less than 400.  Is this for real?



Thats the same price I paid for my 10.5" LMT upper. Its for real. LMT drop shipped it to my address from their factory. Took maybe a week from the time I ordered to the time it showed up.
6/15/2006 11:11:38 PM EDT
[#26]

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What is the cost difference between making a buffer tube Milspec vs non-Milspec?  Is there that much of a price difference that some companys use the Non-Milspec?



There is a big cost difference. The civilian tube is specifically designed for minimum cost. The diameter is selected in such a way, that only the thread needs to be machined, the rest of the tube needs very little to no machining. This is a huge cost reducing factor. The downside is that the end result is a tube that is thicker than the mil-spec tube and mil-spec stocks will not fit. What's worse, the peak-to-peak diameter of the thread will fall just a little short of the specified 3/16"-16 UN3-B. This will greatly affect the strength of the joint between the tube and the lower receiver.

The mil-spec tube is a forging, that is shaped in such a way, that the thread area has enough material to machine a full diameter thread and the tube area has a smaller diameter that allows more material in the plastic part of the stock. The tube area will also need a little machining. The tooling and machining is expensive, but there is a clear gain in performance. The full thread increases the strength in the joint between the lower receiver. Forged aluminium is generally 5-15% stronger than extruded aluminium, which further increases strength. The smaller tube diameter allows more material in the plastic part of the stock, again making the end product stronger.
6/15/2006 11:44:31 PM EDT
[#27]

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Quoted:
I guess it's time to check the EE for the cheapest price on the complete kit.
I'll sell my other stock in the EE to help offset costs.

HS1



I bought mine from These Guys, best prices I could find.



Has to be Airsoft or 2004 prices...  That's significantly below dealer cost....
6/16/2006 1:29:54 AM EDT
[#28]

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Quoted:

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I guess it's time to check the EE for the cheapest price on the complete kit.
I'll sell my other stock in the EE to help offset costs.

HS1



I bought mine from These Guys, best prices I could find.



Has to be Airsoft or 2004 prices...  That's significantly below dealer cost....



+1
6/16/2006 3:13:41 AM EDT
[#29]

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I guess it's time to check the EE for the cheapest price on the complete kit.
I'll sell my other stock in the EE to help offset costs.

HS1



I bought mine from These Guys, best prices I could find.



Has to be Airsoft or 2004 prices...  That's significantly below dealer cost....



Too high to be Airsoft and I serioulsy doubt LMT would allow them to sell knock-offs as LMTs-- particularly when they sell other LMT products.  
6/16/2006 3:25:48 AM EDT
[#30]
+1 on the LMT stock.  I originally purchased mine because I couldn't stand the rattle either.  Liked it so much I ended up buying a complete LMT upper and lower (with SOPMOD) as well.


6/16/2006 4:10:39 AM EDT
[#31]

Quoted:
I decided to splurge on a new stock and for some reason i'm drawn to LMT SOPMOD stock.
My Bushmaster stock rattles in every position including closed and there is enough play between the stock and tube to annoy me. I noticed while watching video of myself at a recent shoot, that my stock was actually wiggling with every shot. I shot accurate rapid fire at multiple targets but couldn't help but notice the stock/tube play is excessive. Now it's driving me crazy. So, it's new stock time.

How tight does the LMT SOPMOD stock fit on the milspec tube?

I know my tube isn't milspec diameter, so i'll need the complete kit. My stock moves/wiggles approximately 3/16" side to side.

How happy are you guys that own them?

Thanks guys!

HS1





I have a regular Fiber lite Telestock

also VLTOR

SOPMOD /LMT


LMT`S     SOPMOD  STOCK RULES!!!  ROCK SOLID


MY VLTOR has a BIT of WIGGLE but it dont bother me that MUCH

BTW MY OLD Fiber Lite  Fits Tighter than the VLTOR




BOUGHT MINE for the CHECK REST MOSTLY


BRAVOCOMPANY is a Very good place to start
6/16/2006 7:48:12 AM EDT
[#32]

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Has to be Airsoft or 2004 prices...  That's significantly below dealer cost....



Arrived in a LMT box with the NSN on the package, I'm telling ya if its an Airsoft or fake someone should get an award for going above and beyond.
6/16/2006 8:05:25 AM EDT
[#33]

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Has to be Airsoft or 2004 prices...  That's significantly below dealer cost....



Arrived in a LMT box with the NSN on the package, I'm telling ya if its an Airsoft or fake someone should get an award for going above and beyond.





Man thats a good price

mine came with the lower
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