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Posted: 6/24/2012 7:26:04 AM EDT
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I am planning on buying a piston rifle in the next 30 days.
I have narrowed my search down to either a LMT MRP CQB or a PWS MK 114. For those of use that have experience with either of these, please give me the pros and cons on each. Any help in making my decision, will be appreciated. |
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I am planning on buying a piston rifle in the next 30 days. I have narrowed my search down to either a LMT MRP CQB or a PWS MK 114. For those of use that have experience with either of these, please give me the pros and cons on each. Any help in making my decision, will be appreciated. What is it about these two systems that has caught your attention? Have you had the chance to shoot, or handle, either? Is weight and balance the most important factor for you? If so, the PWS is probably going to be your best bet. Are you going to use the gun with a suppressor? LMT might be the better choice. LMT also comes with nicer furniture and the rail system is notched to accept KAC panels. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I have a PWS MK114 and it fires anything I give it and as accurate as my (2) di ARs. The only complaint is that the forearm gets really hot quick. I have no experience with LMT.
I do not clean my gun every time i go out and do not have any issues with the PWS. After 2 to 3 visit with my DI I some times have issues and I need to oil the gun. |
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I have the LMT. Fast approaching the 15 K mark in terms of number of rounds. 80% of those have been various Russian steel cased ammo.
My most reliable weapon by far. I had an early problem with carrier tilt which was solved by an anti-tilt buffer. It is, as others have mentioned, front-heavy due to the monolithic rail and the thicker than normal barrel profile. I installed a Magpul UBR stock to help balance the weapon. |
| I have the LMT and it's an absolute pleasure (so far). If I had to choose one single weapon to drag into battle, this would be it. I also had some early signs of tilt, but I didn't do anything about it. I wanted to see how far it would go. Turns out that after a couple hundred rounds or so, the wear leveled right off. As far as I can tell, it's a non-factor. I don't even think about it. I added an LWRC cam pin which seems to work very well (shows less overall wear over time) - some seem to prefer the POF roller cam, but I like the fact that the LWRC is a single piece with no moving parts - and it works for me (again, so far). Let you know after at least 10K rounds.... |
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I've had both, and here's my opinion:
Both feel like they're built like tanks, proved to be extremely reliable in a variety of conditions with exceptional fit and finish. I ran both pretty hard in a lot of dry, dusty, dirty conditions and both ate everything equally well including a lot of crappy steel case. I had around 10k in the LMT and maybe half that in my PWS. I ended up replacing the LMT with the PWS primarily because I never really liked the way the the LMT handled. It just felt heavy... heavier than it actually was and wasn't snappy and lively in my hands. The PWS on the other hand feels fast, nimble and balances exceptionally well for me. Then again, some of this is merely personal preference. The PWS has also proven to be slightly more accurate across the board with virtually all ammunition types. That could also come down to the differences between individual rifles. The ability to swap out barrels easily was an initial draw for the LMT, but I never really ended up doing anything with it because a swap is almost as expensive as a full upper swap, which would just be easier in the long run as well. It really comes down to personal preference, what kind of a deal you can find, and what you want to spend. You really can't go wrong either way. My suggestion would be to handle each and decide that way. If you like more weight over the muzzle, you'll probably like the LMT, where-in if you want more neutral balance, you'll end up with the PWS. As far as muzzle rise between the two, I think it kinda balances out... The forward weight on the LMT tends to keep the muzzle down under rapid fire wherein the PWS has a superior muzzle break, which does the same thing. |
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I have become enamored with the LMT Piston system as of late.I was a DI only guy until I picked up a piston kit for my MRP and haven't looked back. Now I have two piston MRP uppers and both have proven as accurate, or more so in one case, than my DI guns and reliable to a fault. I can shoot crappy Wolf all day and take 10 minutes to clean the gun.
FWIW I run an AA bolt spring and POF Roller Cam in both. |
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I have a PWS MK114 and it fires anything I give it and as accurate as my (2) di ARs. The only complaint is that the forearm gets really hot quick. I have no experience with LMT. I do not clean my gun every time i go out and do not have any issues with the PWS. After 2 to 3 visit with my DI I some times have issues and I need to oil the gun. If you're concerned with forend heat, try a set of rail covers from Manta Rails. I recently bought a set and have been using them on my MK109 upper. They do a very good job of insulating the forend. I've got another set on order that I'll be using on my MK114. |
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I have a PWS MK114. The only complaint is that the forearm gets really hot quick. I have a Magpul vertical grip and feel nothing when rapid firing shooting heats up the rail. I have checked it to notice what others mention but either the rail covers mentioned or a grip makes that a none issue. Both guns are excellent weapons, accurate and reliable and I am sure you would love either once bought and shot. I went PWS not only for lighter weight and better balance, it is the best piston hands down for that, but the price is better with equal quality to the best pistons (IMO) The biggest problem you will have is finding one. There is currently a 180 day wait for orders on any PWS piston MK1 or 2 (308) Wulfmann 
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I have a PWS MK114. The only complaint is that the forearm gets really hot quick. I have a Magpul vertical grip and feel nothing when rapid firing shooting heats up the rail. I have checked it to notice what others mention but either the rail covers mentioned or a grip makes that a none issue. Both guns are excellent weapons, accurate and reliable and I am sure you would love either once bought and shot. I went PWS not only for lighter weight and better balance, it is the best piston hands down for that, but the price is better with equal quality to the best pistons (IMO) The biggest problem you will have is finding one. There is currently a 180 day wait for orders on any PWS piston MK1 or 2 (308) Wulfmann http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y152/Wulfmann/ARs/PWS-L-3-2012s.jpg If you have Facebook, check out their page... They usually fly a post saying who has them in stock for immediate shipment. |
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I have a few LMT piston rifles and they are my favorite hands down compared to other piston guns I own/have owned. My favorite part is the one piece piston that is very easy to remove and clean. Also, the ability to swap the rifle back and forth from DI to Piston just by swapping out the quick change barrels and BCG is very cool. The recoil impulse is very soft, it is very accurate, and I haven't had a problem with the weight of the rifle.
I don't own a POF so I can't say much about it. |
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