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Posted: 12/4/2013 6:46:58 PM EDT
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I was in my local gun store the other day listen to an employee pitch a sale on a REPR. He was going on and on about how this was the best rifle in the world and how nobody even comes close to LWRC.
I've handled the rifles a few times myself but with a price tag well over $3000 I'm not a buyer. They seem really nice and well made but the best on the planet? Any of you guys what to give me some idea of what these rifle compare to? From what I see from other companies they don't seem that special though they are rather pretty if that's what you are looking for. |
| Well the salesman was talking about how nothing comes close but just kept pointing out the side charge feature and the paint job. I've never heard anything negative about the company but I can build one hell of a rifle for about $1500 cheaper with what people around here would argue are some of the absolute best parts around. |
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Best on the planet is quite a bold statement.. That being said 
ETA: 18" DMR REPR http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t520/INFIDEL814/null_zps02eb5fd6.jpg http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t520/INFIDEL814/null_zps77b853ed.jpg outstanding....... |
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I have a number of the LWRC M6 rifles. One had the ejection port door latch fall off within 30 minutes of use. Another 2 (I have 10) wont group AT ALL. Like shotgun. From factory. The others group fine. The piston when it needs cleaned requires you remove the top rail destroying the zero of your irons That said, they are well made as a general rule and come with H2 buffers, iron sights etc out of the box. But I am replacing the LWRC's with another brand. |
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I have a number of the LWRC M6 rifles. One had the ejection port door latch fall off within 30 minutes of use. Another 2 (I have 10) wont group AT ALL. Like shotgun. From factory. The others group fine. The piston when it needs cleaned requires you remove the top rail destroying the zero of your irons That said, they are well made as a general rule and come with H2 buffers, iron sights etc out of the box. But I am replacing the LWRC's with another brand. That right there is enough for me to stay away. |
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Quoted: That right there is enough for me to stay away. Quoted: Quoted: I have a number of the LWRC M6 rifles. One had the ejection port door latch fall off within 30 minutes of use. Another 2 (I have 10) wont group AT ALL. Like shotgun. From factory. The others group fine. The piston when it needs cleaned requires you remove the top rail destroying the zero of your irons That said, they are well made as a general rule and come with H2 buffers, iron sights etc out of the box. But I am replacing the LWRC's with another brand. That right there is enough for me to stay away. 3 are complete shit. And then of course there is the iron sight issue if you make your guns dirty frequently as I do. PWS is where I have decided to go for Piston guns. |
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I have a number of the LWRC M6 rifles. One had the ejection port door latch fall off within 30 minutes of use. Another 2 (I have 10) wont group AT ALL. Like shotgun. From factory. The others group fine. The piston when it needs cleaned requires you remove the top rail destroying the zero of your irons That said, they are well made as a general rule and come with H2 buffers, iron sights etc out of the box. But I am replacing the LWRC's with another brand. Interesting. I also have had many LWRC's and every one of them group fantastic (see photo above). Even if you did have an issue LWRC has the best customer service in the industry. So... I will also call BS on losing zero when removing the rail cover. So, BS. Between the IC and the REPR I believe I have two of the finest rifles produced today. 
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Quoted: Absolute bs.... U don't lose zero You have peddled the past stuff for a while Have yet to hear of an owner not getting good accuracy from lwrc If u had these problems, why own 10 B's of course What are you talking about? This is the first EVER post I've ever posted about LWRC or any other brand I prefer over them. I own ten because I bought them all at the same time. Now you have heard about accuracy problems, because I'm saying I have them in two of the ten. And you are telling me that when you remove the rail that covers the piston (which is where the front sight is) and then re-attach you dont lose zero? Do you even own an M6? At CQB distances that may be true, but at 100yds, the zero moves. Unless you absolutely ensure that the two threaded screws are the exact same torque, which is hard because they are slotted. |
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And you are telling me that when you remove the rail that covers the piston (which is where the front sight is) and then re-attach you dont lose zero? Do you even own an M6? At CQB distances that may be true, but at 100yds, the zero moves. Unless you absolutely ensure that the two threaded screws are the exact same torque, which is hard because they are slotted. I am. I own three M6's and they all hold zero @ 100 after removing the top rail. That's what you get with a LWRC.
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Gotta love Arfcom bullshit!!!
Now I don't own a LWRC but I don't see how you would lose your zero by taking that rail off and re-installing. Also, if I bought 10 rifles from a company and 3 of them were shit, I'd get the company to take care of it or I would never buy one again. From what I know about LWRC, they would remedy this issue. |
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What are you talking about? This is the first EVER post I've ever posted about LWRC or any other brand I prefer over them. I own ten because I bought them all at the same time. Now you have heard about accuracy problems, because I'm saying I have them in two of the ten. And you are telling me that when you remove the rail that covers the piston (which is where the front sight is) and then re-attach you dont lose zero? Do you even own an M6? At CQB distances that may be true, but at 100yds, the zero moves. Unless you absolutely ensure that the two threaded screws are the exact same torque, which is hard because they are slotted. Quoted:
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Absolute bs.... U don't lose zero You have peddled the past stuff for a while Have yet to hear of an owner not getting good accuracy from lwrc If u had these problems, why own 10 B's of course What are you talking about? This is the first EVER post I've ever posted about LWRC or any other brand I prefer over them. I own ten because I bought them all at the same time. Now you have heard about accuracy problems, because I'm saying I have them in two of the ten. And you are telling me that when you remove the rail that covers the piston (which is where the front sight is) and then re-attach you dont lose zero? Do you even own an M6? At CQB distances that may be true, but at 100yds, the zero moves. Unless you absolutely ensure that the two threaded screws are the exact same torque, which is hard because they are slotted. absolutely calling bs on this. I own 2 (had 3) and none lost their zero as the system was designed for that not to happen. I've removed them numerous times and NEVER had a loss of zero. Absolute bs.....I don't think I've even read a single case of this on the lwrc forums as well. |
| This whole losing zero thing when removing the top cover is LOLLL funny stuff for sure. Any how I love LWRC and have two of their A6 line, a 10.5 and a PSD. Real nice guns for sure. Best on the planet? uhmmm NO but far better than the rest depending on what kind of other brands you have compared them to which is God knows what. I would personally say that they rank up there on the same level of HK which is quite high in my own personal opinion. I've always looked at anything HK as top of the line even though some would say otherwise but LWRC is quite on that same level as they are I would have to say. I also on two MR556's which is just a civil. version of the true 416. Both mentioned brands make some nice high quality stuff IMO. |
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Guys, you can call B.S all you want but its been my experience thats all. I have no reason other than conveying personal experience to say this. Its funny how you are all lol'ing at the loss of zero, you realize the front sight is attached to the top cover which pulls off right? So you REMOVE the front sight. Thus to ensure repeatability the top cover must go on EXACTLY where it was before with the EXACT same amount of torque locking it in place. Thats pretty easy and repeatable at <15yds, at the 100yd zero, it can move the group a couple inches from tight screw down to only finger tight. Would I still buy LWRC for personal shooting? Yes. Would I buy it for work. No. |
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The REPR is probably the best gun LWRC makes, that being said it's heavy, it's probably the heaviest of all the battle rifles out there. So as far as running like a Battle rifle you better be in shape.
I know the first few REPRs had a lot of problems but they have been straightened out as far as I know. I go to a lot of classes and have seen a ton of 5.56 LWRC's shit the bed and I cannot figure out how such an high quality and expensive gun can be such a turd. If you buy it, set it up for a long range precision gun not a battle rifle. There's a few movies on YouTube of guys ringing steel at 750 yards with one like its nothing special. |
| I have a REPR and in today's environment, I'd say buy 2 to 3 DI .308 AR's for the same cash you'd spend on a REPR. Way I figure it, if your in for the long game, you're more likely to find parts on down the road. I'm tempted to either get another REPR as a working spare parts gun, or dumping it. |
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I have a number of the LWRC M6 rifles. One had the ejection port door latch fall off within 30 minutes of use. Another 2 (I have 10) wont group AT ALL. Like shotgun. From factory. The others group fine. The piston when it needs cleaned requires you remove the top rail destroying the zero of your irons That said, they are well made as a general rule and come with H2 buffers, iron sights etc out of the box. But I am replacing the LWRC's with another brand. That right there is enough for me to stay away. What year are those M6's? I have one of the 500 limited edition IC's and have had zero problems for grouping. When removing the top rail it does not interfere with the zeroing of the iron sights. They have it so when removing the top rail the iron sight does not remove with it. I have been looking hard at .308 and for me it is between HK and LWRC. I'll probably end up with the LWRC because of the side handle, there CS is second to none in my book. Parts are easier to get also. Just my two cents. |
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Quoted: What year are those M6's? I have one of the 500 limited edition IC's and have had zero problems for grouping. When removing the top rail it does not interfere with the zeroing of the iron sights. They have it so when removing the top rail the iron sight does not remove with it. I have been looking hard at .308 and for me it is between HK and LWRC. I'll probably end up with the LWRC because of the side handle, there CS is second to none in my book. Parts are easier to get also. Just my two cents. I'll take a picture. |
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The REPR is probably the best gun LWRC makes, that being said it's heavy, it's probably the heaviest of all the battle rifles out there. So as far as running like a Battle rifle you better be in shape. 10.5 lbs is far from the heaviest. During my deer hunt this year it was actually less weight than my partners 700. |
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10.5 lbs is far from the heaviest. During my deer hunt this year it was actually less weight than my partners 700. Quoted:
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The REPR is probably the best gun LWRC makes, that being said it's heavy, it's probably the heaviest of all the battle rifles out there. So as far as running like a Battle rifle you better be in shape. 10.5 lbs is far from the heaviest. During my deer hunt this year it was actually less weight than my partners 700. yeah I agree...to much bs in this thread overall. it's kinda comedic |
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OP, I had the opportunity to tour LWRC and meet the men and women behind their product. Their customer service is hard to beat, they are 100% behind their products. I don't know about some of the people but I literally burned through their ammo and rifles without failure, and we ran them dry on day 1. LWRC REPR is a beautiful rifle, I think well worth the $3500 or so. My only beef is the reciprocating charging handle and how big it is.
Refer to my avitar, their rifle, their facility, their ammo. My only wish is that MD wasn't a commie state, I had a hell of an opportunity offered but have no regrets about my decision. Your experience with their rifles may vary but in my experience I tend to chalk those negative comments to operator errors. I don't mean to imply these people don't know their way around a rifle or what they are talking about. They have a wall of destroyed firearms, one of which was in a fire. I believe the story was a patrol car that caught fire but I am not certain. That rifle, though fugly, was still serviceable. To me, that speaks volumes. Edited for dumbassery. |
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My only beef is the reciprocating charging handle and how big it is. The REPR utilizes a non reciprocating charging handle. Shit. Im sippin sizzurp, think I'm coming down with strep. I beg for a 13er pass. It was demonstrated to me how it can be taken out of battery. My apologies, I'll go back to my corner or dig up the tonsil stone thread... |
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Shit. Im sippin sizzurp, think I'm coming down with strep. I beg for a 13er pass. It was demonstrated to me how it can be taken out of battery. My apologies, I'll go back to my corner or dig up the tonsil stone thread... Quoted:
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My only beef is the reciprocating charging handle and how big it is. The REPR utilizes a non reciprocating charging handle. Shit. Im sippin sizzurp, think I'm coming down with strep. I beg for a 13er pass. It was demonstrated to me how it can be taken out of battery. My apologies, I'll go back to my corner or dig up the tonsil stone thread... No big deal. At some point LWRC offered a folding latch replacement but I haven't seen one in person. |
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If you buy it, set it up for a long range precision gun not a battle rifle. There's a few movies on YouTube of guys ringing steel at 750 yards with one like its nothing special. If you want a long range precision rifle, why pay so much extra money for an LWRC piston rifle? |
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If you buy it, set it up for a long range precision gun not a battle rifle. There's a few movies on YouTube of guys ringing steel at 750 yards with one like its nothing special. If you want a long range precision rifle, why pay so much extra money for an LWRC piston rifle? This is what I don't get either. |
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No big deal. At some point LWRC offered a folding latch replacement but I haven't seen one in person. Quoted:
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My only beef is the reciprocating charging handle and how big it is. The REPR utilizes a non reciprocating charging handle. Shit. Im sippin sizzurp, think I'm coming down with strep. I beg for a 13er pass. It was demonstrated to me how it can be taken out of battery. My apologies, I'll go back to my corner or dig up the tonsil stone thread... No big deal. At some point LWRC offered a folding latch replacement but I haven't seen one in person. I wanted to see it but we spent too much time shooting to get around to it. |
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My only beef is the reciprocating charging handle and how big it is. The REPR utilizes a non reciprocating charging handle. Someone really needs to tell that to the tool at the gun store. I won't bash the store because they do have quite a few informed intelligent people working there but they have a select few that are clueless. |
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If you buy it, set it up for a long range precision gun not a battle rifle. There's a few movies on YouTube of guys ringing steel at 750 yards with one like its nothing special. If you want a long range precision rifle, why pay so much extra money for an LWRC piston rifle? This is what I don't get either. R.E.P.R (rapid engagement precision rifle) If I needed to put a lot of led down range in a hurry and accurately I don't think there is a better system. It serves its purpose quite well. |
| There are a lot of precision semi automatic rifles that are up there in cost. LaRue, Knights, LMT, FNH, bla bla bla. Also, unless you've got pics of these 10 LWRC guns, with 3 lemons that shoot like shotguns and have parts flying off of then I don't wanna hear it. Ive seen too much trolling in the m4 forums about these LWRC products to believe anything negative anyone says about them unless I see proof. My LWRC works magnificently drop11 I would not hesitate to purchase again, nor would I hesitate to spend a lot more money than I already have with them. I wont say best on the planet because I haven't shot every gun in the world, but it is definitely the best carbine I have used to date. |
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I also call BS. I have 2 R.E.P.R.'s and they are amazing. I am, however, looking forward to getting my Larue OBR. I also have an LMT MWS and Colt LE 901, both of which are fine rifles. For piston, it is the R.E.P.R. For D.I. it is LMT MWS. The OBR may be king of D.I.once It arrives, if it arrives. As to the best in the world, who knows. They are all fine rifles. 1in 10 twist screams for 168/175gr. ammo to achieve best results. Lets not forget Knights, a weapon that I do not own or have experience with. Know doubt a fine rifle, but very expensive. For S.H.T.F, any of the above will serve me well !!. It should be obvious that I dont have a wife. I'd already be dead.: ) |
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The SR-25 is the king of DI, it's a better battle rifle than the REPR and certainly lighter than the LMT or the OBR, and very close in accuracy to the OBR. It's also lighter weight than the three mentioned.
If light weight and accuracy is what you want get a SCAR-17, acceptably accurate and at7.9 lbs it's def a good hunt to hump around and hunt with. |
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There are a lot of precision semi automatic rifles that are up there in cost. LaRue, Knights, LMT, FNH, bla bla bla. Also, unless you've got pics of these 10 LWRC guns, with 3 lemons that shoot like shotguns and have parts flying off of then I don't wanna hear it. Ive seen too much trolling in the m4 forums about these LWRC products to believe anything negative anyone says about them unless I see proof. My LWRC works magnificently drop11 I would not hesitate to purchase again, nor would I hesitate to spend a lot more money than I already have with them. I wont say best on the planet because I haven't shot every gun in the world, but it is definitely the best carbine I have used to date. My point exactly. We shot the shit out of dry guns, too many of them. I've not shot every firearm either but it sure as hell was one of the finer firearms I have shot, many new off the production line. LWRC is getting my money come 2014. If you have an issue with their product you may PM me, I will get you in contact with someone who may be able to right whatever wrongs you are talking about. Might even buy em, regardless of your issues OP. I know damned well I can get whatever your problem is squared away in a hurry even from my other email. |
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I wouldn't take my experience as a general anything. But as said above I have ten which is a good small sample size. 7 are GREAT. 3 are complete shit. And then of course there is the iron sight issue if you make your guns dirty frequently as I do. PWS is where I have decided to go for Piston guns. Quoted:
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I have a number of the LWRC M6 rifles. One had the ejection port door latch fall off within 30 minutes of use. Another 2 (I have 10) wont group AT ALL. Like shotgun. From factory. The others group fine. The piston when it needs cleaned requires you remove the top rail destroying the zero of your irons That said, they are well made as a general rule and come with H2 buffers, iron sights etc out of the box. But I am replacing the LWRC's with another brand. That right there is enough for me to stay away. 3 are complete shit. And then of course there is the iron sight issue if you make your guns dirty frequently as I do. PWS is where I have decided to go for Piston guns. 70% ain't so hot when you're talking about a $3,000 AR 
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| A friend of mine has an older one that when brand new had cycling problems. He couldn't get 10 rounds through it before it would jam. He returned it to LWRC, and they said the bolt was out of spec. LWRC replaced the bolt, and now my friend says the gun runs great. Edit: The other day my buddy said he wants to sell the complete upper. Strange. |
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My only beef is the reciprocating charging handle and how big it is. The REPR utilizes a non reciprocating charging handle. Shit. Im sippin sizzurp, think I'm coming down with strep. I beg for a 13er pass. It was demonstrated to me how it can be taken out of battery. My apologies, I'll go back to my corner or dig up the tonsil stone thread... No big deal. At some point LWRC offered a folding latch replacement but I haven't seen one in person. Yea, a lot of us begged for the folding latch and Mountainman even started a list of us who wanted him to fabricate them one. I guess he pissed someone off on the LWRC boards and hasn't spoken about it since. I even bugged him on a couple of boards about it but got no response. My guess is that LWRC pulled some IP cease and desist BS on him while at the same time told us that the folders were for some special agency and not for us. For SHTF, I'd go DI .308 AR (fewer spare parts needed) until a particular piston system becomes ubiquitous to the platform, which I doubt will ever happen. Hell, DI is still fragmented a bit. Oh, and the REPR doesn't make a .308 hole any better than any of the other piston or DI rifles out there. Just get a reliable rifle and the result will be similar. |
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Great rifles but not the best. The REPR is a bit finicky in its ammo (doesn't do well with surplus I've heard but I'm quick to add that I don't have have 1st hand experience; would lik3 to hear from REPR owners here).
I've got an LWRC and an HK, both in 5.56. I'm going to buy a 7.62. If I can afford it I'll spend the money on the HK. If I can't, I'll get the REPR. |
The front rail is designed to return to zero.. If your having issues contact LWRC and the will fix your problem. Anyone complaining about "issues" and then not contacting the factory is .
I'm not saying theyre the best rifles but you do get alot for your money. Never shot a REPR but I have a PSD and my brother has a 14.7in IC. Both have performed flawlessly. Again, these are what I would call higher end rifles and you have full factory support if there is an off chance you have an issue. |
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Great rifles but not the best. The REPR is a bit finicky in its ammo (doesn't do well with surplus I've heard but I'm quick to add that I don't have have 1st hand experience; would lik3 to hear from REPR owners here). I've got an LWRC and an HK, both in 5.56. I'm going to buy a 7.62. If I can afford it I'll spend the money on the HK. If I can't, I'll get the REPR. Mine eats surplus stuff just fine. Not the most accurate but goes bang every time. 175gr GMM SMK's are the business. 
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This thread cracked me up. I've had a IC-SPR on order for a month. Picking up tomorrow. I've had to sell 5 of my collection to fund this purchase, and no troll is going to get under my skin and make me doubt this purchase.
I'm not sure who is more excited. Me, or that kid in Christmas Story with his Red Ryder. I am almost 50 years old and I have lost sleep. One motivation for this purchase is my move from quantity to quality. A second is my belief that it has been a little too long since real innovation has been applied to the AR platform. Yes, I'm getting a system that is proprietary, and thus down if ever an issue. I'm just a civilian who likes to hit the 200 and 300 yard ranges 3-4 times a month and re-live my old Army Rifle competition days. (my team won the nationals in 87) But I have learned enough about LWRC and this rifle to know this was the right decision for me. I have three .308s that I'm planning on selling in 2014/15 to fund a REPR for the same reasons. And for the record, if I do have a problem with this rifle, you can bet I'll re-post here with a full description, photos and/or video. 
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