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Posted: 7/22/2013 10:49:16 AM EDT
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I've always run a flash suppressor, mainly to protect the crown and help make me deaf earlier. ARs just don't look normal without something on the end of the barrel and after all we all know looking tacticool is way more important than function, lol. Anyhow I've decided to try out a linear muzzle device, I'm not concerned with compensator function though that is a plus. I am more concerned with directing the muzzle blast forward than taming recoil or flash suppression. If it can do that and reduce recoil and reduce flash signature then ++. Would like to do this with as little weigh gain as possible.
Hoping to hear from some of you guys who have used them and what you think. Thanks |
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I just want through this decision process (actually re- decision). The problem with a linear comp, like the Levang (which I have owned for several years now) and others with small holes in the end, is that they heat up quite a bit in that the gas are trapped in the device. Also, the Levang is very heavy. A better choice is the STD flash hider (http://www.atomictactical.com/STD-Simple-Threaded-Device-5-56MM-p/stdblk556.htm) in that it is open at the end and is actually shorter than an A2 flashhider and is much smaller in diameter than the Levang; therefore the STD is light in weight, directs the blast concussion down range, and has good flash suppression. Go to Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/SimpleThreadedDevices) to see videos of this flash hider at work.
Note: the inventor of the STD is Jim Timber on "http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=143&t=83301&start=60" and he told me that a crush washer, or any washer, is not needed to install the STD. I use a lock washer so I can easily remove it to add “other devices” |
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Linear comps...
Good points-Does exactly what the manufacturers say, noise and concussion goes downrange instead of sideways. Slight degree of compensation due to expansion chamber effect. Relatively inexpensive. Most of them don't need to be indexed. Not-So-Good-Does not prevent muzzle rise, does not work as a flash hider, adds weight...but then, all muzzle attachments do. The Flaming Pig and the CQB linear comps are definitely on the heavy side, but they are meant for SBRs. I've used the Troy Claymore, Kies Blast Master, and the Black River Tactical linear comps, they are all good solid products. My personal preference is the Kies Blast Master, best looking of the lot, IMO. They are MUCH more range friendly than most comps. |
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I tried a few brakes and they all did exactly as advertised by reducing muzzle rise but I couldn't stand how loud they were. I have since switched to a Troy Claymore and am sticking with linear comps from now on. 5.56/.223 is not too hard to control muzzle rise and I don't worry about flash since I can't shoot at night anyway (range closes at sunset). For me, the benefit of the concussion going forward makes shooting more comfortable and therefor more enjoyable.
I have the Claymore which has been great, but I have never been a fan of the points on the end. Might try the STD or the Kies on the next build. |
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Linear comps make shooting comfortable for the shooter and nobody else in 180* forward of the muzzle. Trade offs are exposed firing position (matters in certain circumstances) and slight increase in reaward recoil. For a cqb setup something like the Claymore would be a good choice.
On another noye, the Claymore equipped Middy I built for my young son became a favorite with female shooters because of the absence of intimidating and distracting side muzzle blast and noise. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
| I ran a Levang Linear for a while on a Kel Tec PLR-16 pistol and one of my 16" ARs. Great at focusing the noise/concussion forward but does nothing for the recoil/muzzle jump except for it's weight (feels like it weights as much as a roll of nickels). For the money it's great but I'd recommend something much lighter. |
| I recently bought a HERA Arms linear comp. It is a true work of art! Finishing and machining work are second to none. It is heavier than most muzzle devices but it balances well on my 14.5" barrel. It is much more enjoyable to shoot than my rifle with a Battlecomp because of the noise reduction at the shooters position. It does a good job at taming muzzle rise, I think this is because of the weight more than anything. |
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I recently bought a HERA Arms linear comp. It is a true work of art! Finishing and machining work are second to none. It is heavier than most muzzle devices but it balances well on my 14.5" barrel. It is much more enjoyable to shoot than my rifle with a Battlecomp because of the noise reduction at the shooters position. It does a good job at taming muzzle rise, I think this is because of the weight more than anything. Do you know what the over all length of your barrel and comp is? I want to pin a hera arms (3.5 inch) on a 12.5 inch barrel. Im trying to avoid a tax stamp and nfa rules by making a compliant 16 inch barrel. |
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Do you know what the over all length of your barrel and comp is? I want to pin a hera arms (3.5 inch) on a 12.5 inch barrel. Im trying to avoid a tax stamp and nfa rules by making a compliant 16 inch barrel. Quoted:
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I recently bought a HERA Arms linear comp. It is a true work of art! Finishing and machining work are second to none. It is heavier than most muzzle devices but it balances well on my 14.5" barrel. It is much more enjoyable to shoot than my rifle with a Battlecomp because of the noise reduction at the shooters position. It does a good job at taming muzzle rise, I think this is because of the weight more than anything. Do you know what the over all length of your barrel and comp is? I want to pin a hera arms (3.5 inch) on a 12.5 inch barrel. Im trying to avoid a tax stamp and nfa rules by making a compliant 16 inch barrel. You would have to run at least a 13.7" barrel to make that set up leagal without a tax stamp. |
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Do you know what the over all length of your barrel and comp is? I want to pin a hera arms (3.5 inch) on a 12.5 inch barrel. Im trying to avoid a tax stamp and nfa rules by making a compliant 16 inch barrel. Quoted:
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I recently bought a HERA Arms linear comp. It is a true work of art! Finishing and machining work are second to none. It is heavier than most muzzle devices but it balances well on my 14.5" barrel. It is much more enjoyable to shoot than my rifle with a Battlecomp because of the noise reduction at the shooters position. It does a good job at taming muzzle rise, I think this is because of the weight more than anything. Do you know what the over all length of your barrel and comp is? I want to pin a hera arms (3.5 inch) on a 12.5 inch barrel. Im trying to avoid a tax stamp and nfa rules by making a compliant 16 inch barrel. I actually contemplated that. I figured it would be just slightly short, and I didn't want to risk it. It would work on a 13.7" barrel though. I went with 14.5" Rainier Ultramatch so I could go with a mid length gas system. I have a 15" rail so the comp tucks into the rail about an inch or so. |
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You would have to run at least a 13.7" barrel to make that set up leagal without a tax stamp. Quoted:
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I recently bought a HERA Arms linear comp. It is a true work of art! Finishing and machining work are second to none. It is heavier than most muzzle devices but it balances well on my 14.5" barrel. It is much more enjoyable to shoot than my rifle with a Battlecomp because of the noise reduction at the shooters position. It does a good job at taming muzzle rise, I think this is because of the weight more than anything. Do you know what the over all length of your barrel and comp is? I want to pin a hera arms (3.5 inch) on a 12.5 inch barrel. Im trying to avoid a tax stamp and nfa rules by making a compliant 16 inch barrel. You would have to run at least a 13.7" barrel to make that set up leagal without a tax stamp. Thanks. Any one know any good gunsmiths that pin and weld 13.7's? |
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