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Posted: 5/19/2013 10:05:12 AM EDT
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Has anyone ever used Space saver style vacuum bags and some Rust Blox tabs for long term storage of their AR?
I also thought about using my Food Saver vacuume bags for the same purpose. I was thinking of using the above instead of the 12 for $86 dollar bags that esentially would do the same job. We had the real deal bags in the Corps but my cheap a@$ is always looking to adapt and overcome. So your 2 cents and or experience... |
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I would NOT use the Space Saver bags. Those aren't meant for long term storage and they will leak after awhile
Zcorr bags and desiccant is all you'll need. If you have large enough food saver bags, those would be best. A pack of desiccant in each bag is a must. |
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Most standard plastics as used in most types of bags will pass moisture.
In fact, a friend who worked in a plastics factory told me that bag type plastics had to be dried to remove the excess moisture from manufacture before they could be processed into bags. The "hard" type plastics as used to store electronics are made of a plastic that won't pass moisture. If you're dealing with a gun, the cost of a special storage bag is a cheap investment. Brownell's sell Gun Wrap Vapor Paper that gives off fumes that totally prevent rust, and special storage bags to seal the paper wrapped gun in. At a higher price they sell bags with the vapor technology made with the bag. Trying to save a buck and getting a rusty gun is very much "Penny wise, Dollar foolish". |
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I used Space Savers for my clothes when I moved 250 miles away and I didn't get around to unpacking some of those clothes until a month or so later and they had already started leaking. So my votes a no for the Space Savers for long term storage. Yup, that's how every one of them has been for me. They're meant to "save space," not storage. They'll make your clothing packable and keep liquids from soaking into them. But they aren't designed for long term storage of metal components to prevent corrosion. |
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I would NOT use the Space Saver bags. Those aren't meant for long term storage and they will leak after awhile Zcorr bags and desiccant is all you'll need. If you have large enough food saver bags, those would be best. A pack of desiccant in each bag is a must. good to know |
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I would NOT use the Space Saver bags. Those aren't meant for long term storage and they will leak after awhile Zcorr bags and desiccant is all you'll need. If you have large enough food saver bags, those would be best. A pack of desiccant in each bag is a must. I use Z-Corr bags with an application of Boeshield T-9 to the firearm. I've had a 10/22 stored that way for 3 1/2 years with not signs of corrosion. Midway sells the bags. |
| I'm sorry the title of this post sounds like you are thinking about neglecting your rifle. She deserves to be fondled, lubed, and shot on a regular basis.. don't make me report you to the Department of Rifle Services. LOL.. how long are you planning to store it? We talkin months, years, decades? |
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How long are you talkin about? x2. How long? There are Vietnam era M16's still in use by the military. If a rifle can take decades of tough use, I would guess simply oiling and putting it somewhere out of the weather should give it a shelf life counted in centuries. |
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How long are you talkin about? x2. How long? There are Vietnam era M16's still in use by the military. If a rifle can take decades of tough use, I would guess simply oiling and putting it somewhere out of the weather should give it a shelf life counted in centuries. Hell, I have a few old rifles that were oiled up and stuck in the back of a closet. After a few years, I pulled them out and magically they were fine. |
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The level of effort and expense to protect your gun is tied into the storage conditions the gun will be subjected to. In the air conditioned space of a house is one thing and in a PVC tube buried in the back yard is another. With the AR, mostly just the barrel, trigger group and springs are steel. The rest is plastic and aluminum. Always protect the barrel carefully for sure. Well oiled and in a silicone gunsock works pretty good indoors. Put some type of lock on it if you dont want anyone shooting it. And write down the serial #. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: How long are you talkin about? x2. How long? There are Vietnam era M16's still in use by the military. If a rifle can take decades of tough use, I would guess simply oiling and putting it somewhere out of the weather should give it a shelf life counted in centuries. Hell, I have a few old rifles that were oiled up and stuck in the back of a closet. After a few years, I pulled them out and magically they were fine. I have some 70 to 90 year old guns that I have had for 40 years and are in good to fair shape with very little oiling. They would look a lot better if they had been taken care of better, but they are still good. 4 of them sat in an open air gun rack at the parents house for 40 years and only got oiled after they were shot occasionally. So the inside of a heated and cooled house is not a bad environment. |
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My dad kept a Colombian M98 Mauser in the back of his closet from before I was born until I relieve him of it a year ago (I was 38). The rifle was painted with some kind of black paint (no cosmoline), but there was only a little corrosion on the outside of the magazine well. He also kept my mom's 22lr, his 30-30, and three 12ga shotguns. All were kept in either soft rifle bags or in the case of my 12GA, he kept it in a gun sock (not silicone impregnated). The shotgun is a Sears/Roebuck Ted Williams (Winchester 1200) has two little rust spots near the muzzle and a little bit along the sight rail about mid-way down the barrel. No rust in the chamber. Before firing either, I did take them to a shop to have them looked over as I didn't want a face full of steel if the chambers were compromised. All was good and I have since put a couple hundred rounds through them. Aside from hunting with the shotguns in high school, none of those rifles moved for 35+ years
Colt 45 NM, also kept in a soft bag in same closet for about 25 years until he gifted it to me. Not a sign of rust. They live in So. Florida about 2-3 miles from the coast. They do use A/C and heat, but during the fall and late winter months, they just open the windows. maybe we're just lucky. I am considering putting the rifles in a silicone sock since my house in CA doesn't have central AC or heat. I think, as others have said, a lot depends on where you're storing them and for how long. If they'll be used often, then probably one of those silicone gun socks would be OK (maybe add a desiccant bag to get rid of any humidity when you close it up. If not used for many years, then I'd probably go with the zcorr's. They look like a good price and longetivity. |
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