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Distinguished Rifleman #2223
"Technique isn't something that can be taught. It's something you find on your own." - Bunta Fujiwara |
Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
Where's a good place to get a correct tick style selector lever? View Quote Attached File The other advantage of the Schmid selector is that it has the shorter lever (doesn’t extend over the flat round part of the selector as much) that is used on nearly all M4s and M16s. This Schmid semi selector is described as having the tick mark, but one review says the one he received didn’t come with the mark. You can see how the longer lever covers more of the round face of the selector on this later version. Attached File I’d love to hear about any other options for the tick mark if someone else has found any out there. |
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Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:
I’ve been looking into that myself. I think a lot of people are buying the Schmid Tool select fire lever that is supplied to Colt and then modifying it by grinding off the middle “fin” in the lever so that it’s no longer a select fire (NFA) part. As I understand it, Colt and most other brands don’t put the tick mark on semi selectors. I think Rock River or someone used to, but they don’t seem to be available anymore. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/9158E483-37DD-47A9-A505-67A7217D692F_jpeg-877191.JPG The other advantage of the Schmid selector is that it has the shorter lever (doesn’t extend over the flat round part of the selector as much) that is used on nearly all M4s and M16s. This Schmid semi selector is described as having the tick mark, but one review says the one he received didn’t come with the mark. You can see how the longer lever covers more of the round face of the selector on this later version. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/C4242BC3-286D-4576-A268-8DFAF23620CE_jpeg-877192.JPG I’d love to hear about any other options for the tick mark if someone else has found any out there. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:
Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
Where's a good place to get a correct tick style selector lever? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/9158E483-37DD-47A9-A505-67A7217D692F_jpeg-877191.JPG The other advantage of the Schmid selector is that it has the shorter lever (doesn’t extend over the flat round part of the selector as much) that is used on nearly all M4s and M16s. This Schmid semi selector is described as having the tick mark, but one review says the one he received didn’t come with the mark. You can see how the longer lever covers more of the round face of the selector on this later version. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/C4242BC3-286D-4576-A268-8DFAF23620CE_jpeg-877192.JPG I’d love to hear about any other options for the tick mark if someone else has found any out there. |
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BCM Enhanced LPKs I've bought have tic selectors
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Originally Posted By Dog1:
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Sorry, when I said most brand don’t put the tick mark on their selectors, I should have specified the military style notch that issued weapons have. LMT has a thin raised line on theirs, and BCM has a lightly engraved line. Here’s a military selector notch (I’ve considered asking around if someone could cut this into a standard Colt semi selector and then reparkerize it):
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I bought one of those Schmidt Tool select fire levers. I'll post some pics for reference, but I won't be home to do so for another week.
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The selector lever that came in my Geissele LPK (S marked) has the tick mark cut, not as triangular as the GI style but it's milled and not just a skinny line like some. It does have the longer lever like the 2nd one scout posted. I think on pg 1 of this thread it is listed that these are found on later A4s, but I really wouldn't know as I retired from service back in 2012.
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Originally Posted By uniform64:
BCM's aren't that bad. Better than LMT's View Quote Attached File Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
I bought one of those Schmidt Tool select fire levers. I'll post some pics for reference, but I won't be home to do so for another week. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:
Ah, I see - I didn’t realize they had updated their selector. The old BCM version just has a thin line - a little hard to make out in this photo. I may order one of the new ones - I like the more prominent tick mark. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/44E73F43-6B7B-4A1D-B659-F90FE50FDF26_jpeg-877860.JPG Very interested to see if it still matches the military selector! View Quote |
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BCP is going to be doing another run of A2/A4 marked lowers if anyone wants to jump on.
https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Another-BCP-A2-A4-Lower-run-soon-/127-738299/ |
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Originally Posted By Pothole:
BCP is going to be doing another run of A2/A4 marked lowers if anyone wants to jump on. https://www.ar15.com/forums/AR-15/Another-BCP-A2-A4-Lower-run-soon-/127-738299/ View Quote Their e-mail is: [email protected] |
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Originally Posted By MrRecon:
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FN does produce a select fire ambi safety. Think we ordered 5 ea and received 5 boxes of 50 ea! Gotta love the military supply system.
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
FN does produce a select fire ambi safety. Think we ordered 5 ea and received 5 boxes of 50 ea! Gotta love the military supply system. CD View Quote Ordered 5 boxes of plastic dust caps. Received 5 boxes of 500/ea dust caps totaling 2,500 plastic dust caps. |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
FN does produce a select fire ambi safety. Think we ordered 5 ea and received 5 boxes of 50 ea! Gotta love the military supply system. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6917_jpg-887012.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6920_jpg-887013.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6921_jpg-887015.JPG CD View Quote When I worked in retail, a girl ended up doing a similar thing on a custom order type of merchandise and ended up costing us a couple thousand. |
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What does the ‘S’ signify on the selector?
Schmidt? |
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15&16' Afganistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18'&19' |
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Originally Posted By ankratz:
Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
I've had my PSA CHF 20" rifle kit in for a week or so, but I haven't taken it to the range. What's the best way/distance to zero the carry handle to have the flattest trajectory with 55gr ball? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3766_JPG-868395.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3767_JPG-868396.JPG I assembled it with an Aero M16A4 lower, and I supplemented the kit with a GI carry handle and some surplus A2 handguards. I have a GI side sling swivel that I've been considering adding, too, but I think I'll save that until I eventually acquire an M5 RAS and ACOG. I'm kind of bummed that the barrel doesn't have that slight relief cut on the last 1/2" of muzzle end before the threads, but I'll get over it. View Quote https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/RIBZ--Revised-Improved-Battlesight-Zero/18-328143/ View Quote |
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I finally was able to take pictures of that tick safety selector:
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Here it is in my Aero M16A4 lower:
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That looks perfect - I’m definitely going to order a few. However, I’d recommend you modify the selector to remove that center “fin” to avoid any NFA “intent” complications. That’s what I plan to do with mine:
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Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
Here it is in my Aero M16A4 lower: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3820_JPG-888917.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3821_JPG-888920.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3822_JPG-888923.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/438110/IMG_3823_JPG-888927.JPG Let me know if you want more pictures of anything specific. The PSA kit I bought came with dimpled takedown and pivot pins. I will probably swap them out with non-dimpled pins (such as the ones in my retro rifle) to make this rifle a bit more clone-correct. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Website and price? View Quote Schmid Tool select fire lever |
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Originally Posted By 3ACR_Scout:
That looks perfect - I’m definitely going to order a few. However, I’d recommend you modify the selector to remove that center “fin” to avoid any NFA “intent” complications. That’s what I plan to do with mine: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27888/0E5F4491-2997-4A78-99B3-B3997F24F9EA_jpeg-889046.JPG View Quote Moot point for me, no tax stamps here in Kalifornia, but I’ve seen these comparisons before and I always wondered. |
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Forgive me if it's been discussed, but I'm curious about these FN M16A4 uppers that Ohio Ordnance Works has been selling. Someone posted a link yesterday in reddit's gundeals section when they came back into stock and said OOW had told him these were "true military surplus uppers." That sounds fuckey to me for 2 reasons. One is that the description says they're CHF barrels, which to my knowledge is not correct for military contract M16A4s. The other reason is that aside from certain items "falling off a truck" and being sold by some shop near a military base, this kind of thing doesn't get surplussed by the military.
Are these just takeoffs from the FN Collector's Series rifles? |
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Originally Posted By DiscipulusArmorum:
Forgive me if it's been discussed, but I'm curious about these FN M16A4 uppers that Ohio Ordnance Works has been selling. Someone posted a link yesterday in reddit's gundeals section when they came back into stock and said OOW had told him these were "true military surplus uppers." That sounds fuckey to me for 2 reasons. One is that the description says they're CHF barrels, which to my knowledge is not correct for military contract M16A4s. The other reason is that aside from certain items "falling off a truck" and being sold by some shop near a military base, this kind of thing doesn't get surplussed by the military. Are these just takeoffs from the FN Collector's Series rifles? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By JupiterMaximus:
Actually I would not be surprised if FN is off loading extra A4 uppers. For the most part the rifle length is on it's way out with the US Military. Even the Marines finally came around to the M4 and other carbines. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JupiterMaximus:
Originally Posted By DiscipulusArmorum:
Forgive me if it's been discussed, but I'm curious about these FN M16A4 uppers that Ohio Ordnance Works has been selling. Someone posted a link yesterday in reddit's gundeals section when they came back into stock and said OOW had told him these were "true military surplus uppers." That sounds fuckey to me for 2 reasons. One is that the description says they're CHF barrels, which to my knowledge is not correct for military contract M16A4s. The other reason is that aside from certain items "falling off a truck" and being sold by some shop near a military base, this kind of thing doesn't get surplussed by the military. Are these just takeoffs from the FN Collector's Series rifles? |
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Originally Posted By DiscipulusArmorum:
I did think about that, but in my mind that wouldn't properly be called military surplus but more like a "contract overrun." But would a .mil contract M16A4 upper have a CHF barrel? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By DiscipulusArmorum:
Originally Posted By JupiterMaximus:
Originally Posted By DiscipulusArmorum:
Forgive me if it's been discussed, but I'm curious about these FN M16A4 uppers that Ohio Ordnance Works has been selling. Someone posted a link yesterday in reddit's gundeals section when they came back into stock and said OOW had told him these were "true military surplus uppers." That sounds fuckey to me for 2 reasons. One is that the description says they're CHF barrels, which to my knowledge is not correct for military contract M16A4s. The other reason is that aside from certain items "falling off a truck" and being sold by some shop near a military base, this kind of thing doesn't get surplussed by the military. Are these just takeoffs from the FN Collector's Series rifles? |
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Originally Posted By DiscipulusArmorum:
Forgive me if it's been discussed, but I'm curious about these FN M16A4 uppers that Ohio Ordnance Works has been selling. Someone posted a link yesterday in reddit's gundeals section when they came back into stock and said OOW had told him these were "true military surplus uppers." That sounds fuckey to me for 2 reasons. One is that the description says they're CHF barrels, which to my knowledge is not correct for military contract M16A4s. The other reason is that aside from certain items "falling off a truck" and being sold by some shop near a military base, this kind of thing doesn't get surplussed by the military. Are these just takeoffs from the FN Collector's Series rifles? View Quote |
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I think someone just put that in the product description because everyone thinks FN barrels are hammer forged (based on their commercial line). The upper I got from them has an FN CAGE code marked military barrel. I’ll email them and ask them to clarify that, which is preferable to speculating about it here.
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Distinguished Rifleman #2223
"Technique isn't something that can be taught. It's something you find on your own." - Bunta Fujiwara |
I should have an M5 RAS on the way. Should I swap out the standard FSB-mounted sling swivel for a side mounted one?
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Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
I should have an M5 RAS on the way. Should I swap out the standard FSB-mounted sling swivel for a side mounted one? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By JupiterMaximus:
The A4s I saw in use had the standard swivel still attached. The M4 often had a side swivel mount attached, but I really can't remember seeing one on any A4s. I used the BFG side rail mounted swivel on mine and kept the FSB swivel as a redundancy. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JupiterMaximus:
Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
I should have an M5 RAS on the way. Should I swap out the standard FSB-mounted sling swivel for a side mounted one? |
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Does anyone know if FN M16A4s ever had a raised “F” on the upper receiver like A2s, or have they always been stamped / engraved? I’m cloning a ~2004 FN, and I haven’t been able to find any good closeup photos from that time period. I want to say that they did not use the raised “F” on any A4s, but maybe someone out there has seen one.
I’m also curious if anyone can confirm any forge marks from that period (early 2000s). The FN that I was issued in 2005 was in the 101635XX serial number range, but I didn’t know what a forge mark was back then and don’t recall ever noticing it on the receiver. I have the choice of a Cerro or Brass Aluminum upper, but again, I haven’t really been able to find any good photos of early FN A4s to tell if a particular forge mark was more common. I know I’m a little obsessive, but I’d like to narrow it down if possible. Thanks! |
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
Probably my least used rifle :/ https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/384425/20190403_185127_resized_1_jpg-916768.JPG View Quote |
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For anyone who's been waiting on these to come back in stock, Ohio Ordnance Works has a limited number of the FN M16A4 NOS uppers available as of this morning.
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