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11/11/2010 4:49:21 PM EDT
is there any way to get a military surplus M4 lower reciever and if so does anyone know where to get one?
11/11/2010 4:52:15 PM EDT
[#1]
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is there any way to get a military surplus M4 lower reciever and if so does anyone know where to get one?


Most are machine guns, civies can't have MGs made after 94. So no, plus I believe they are all scrapped.
11/11/2010 5:33:07 PM EDT
[#2]
AFAIK, no.

The biggest issue is that they are MG's and even if they were sold to anyone other than LE agencies, they'd be "Post 86 dealer samples."
11/11/2010 5:41:08 PM EDT
[#3]
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is there any way to get a military surplus M4 lower reciever and if so does anyone know where to get one?


Most are machine guns, civies can't have MGs made after 94 1986. So no, plus I believe they are all scrapped.


There fixed it for ya....

- Clint

11/11/2010 5:53:03 PM EDT
[#4]
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is there any way to get a military surplus M4 lower reciever and if so does anyone know where to get one?


Most are machine guns, civies can't have MGs made after 94 1986. So no, plus I believe they are all scrapped.


There fixed it for ya....

- Clint



Whoops, thinking of the AWB, all this moving to CT is getting to my head. I knew it! Truly I did!

Thanks though!
11/11/2010 6:50:37 PM EDT
[#5]
There are 4 transferrables out there.
11/11/2010 6:55:00 PM EDT
[#6]
There's a bunch of M4 lowers out there. I can't remember which company had them but they wanted almost a grand for one i think. Just marked Colt M4, guess they were an over run that was never built into a gun.
11/11/2010 8:19:57 PM EDT
[#7]
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There's a bunch of M4 lowers out there. I can't remember which company had them but they wanted almost a grand for one i think. Just marked Colt M4, guess they were an over run that was never built into a gun.


I'd love to see that. I'd probably throw down the cash for one. I've seen the magpul lowers go for 2500, so 1k for a M4 marked lower isn't a stretch.
11/11/2010 8:22:39 PM EDT
[#8]
us auto weapons or something like that.

i take that back, I think it was these guys
http://www.autoweapons.com/home.html
11/12/2010 5:22:45 AM EDT
[#9]
what about getting a colt 6920, and selling the upper(better yet, just keep it).  Then you have an m4 marked lower, and upper.  Some colts are marked "law enforcement carbine" while others are marked "m4"
11/12/2010 5:32:20 AM EDT
[#10]
The military/gov does have/use semi auto M4's for some roles. So it's possible. Not likely though.
11/12/2010 5:40:51 AM EDT
[#11]
Colt did mark a few lowers m4le. The 6921(14.5 inch version of the 6920) comes to mind. I want to say they sold some guns with lowers marked m4match or something like that as well.
11/12/2010 6:51:54 AM EDT
[#12]
autoweapons.com has several M16A2/M4s. Basically all they are, are AUTO marked M16A2 receivers
11/12/2010 7:30:17 AM EDT
[#13]
You cant buy a military m4 lower.
You can buy a xfer. form 4 mg.
My truck gun is on form 4
11/12/2010 9:08:48 AM EDT
[#14]
You are not going to be getting an RO920 or RO921 military property lower surplus any time soon.  Those are the ones marked "PROPERTY OF US GOV'T M4(M4A1) CARBINE," and presumably the ones you're asking about.  Only government agencies get them, and they are only select fire weapons.  

If you are an SOT, it is possible to purchase an RO977, also marked Colt M4 CARBINE, however, it is not the same set of markings as the RO920 or 921, and they are all post-'86 weapons.  

Most select fire "M4s" on the market today are in fact marked either "M16A1" or "M16A2," again, commercial variants, though a very few U.S. PROP marked M16A1s to exist as transferrable within the civilian market.  

In the semi-auto, but still NFA market, Colt manufactures the LE6921 carbine, which is a semi-automatic only version of the RO977, and considered a short-barreled rifle.  However, a lot of dealers have gotten into the game of having longer flash suppressors permanently pinned on LE6921s and having their serial numbers removed from the NFA registry.  These are marked <M4LE> as well as having the "RESTRICTED" verbiage on the right side of the magwell.  

In the Title 1 market (16" barrel or greater) Colt manufactures the LE6920, which is the non-NFA, 16" barreled version of the LE6921.  It is marked "COLT'S LAW ENFORCEMENT CARBINE" and it too carries the "RESTRICTED" markings.  

Colt also manufactures the MT6400C, the AWB compliant version of the LE6920, which is marked "MATCH TARGET M4 CARBINE," and lacks the "RESTRICTED" language on the right side of the magwell.  It is, however, caliber marked ".223" rather than "5.56MM."  

All Colt semi variants lack selector markings on the right side of the receiver, which all the select-fire variants currently produced do.  

~Augee
11/12/2010 10:28:40 AM EDT
[#15]
Here's a Colt MT 6400c lower made into an SBR with a Colt M4 14.5" upper


11/12/2010 11:49:16 PM EDT
[#16]
Here ya go, the M4 lowers.


Sorry though couldn't find one for just the lower, gotta get a whole gun

http://phoenix.backpage.com/SportsEquipForSale/1750-colt-xm4-556mm-complete-rifle-on-colt-le6921-m4-marked-lower-ar15-ar-15-car-15/10926260

I wish I could find the place that had them before, i guess it's a pretty rare thing to come across.
11/12/2010 11:56:01 PM EDT
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There's a bunch of M4 lowers out there. I can't remember which company had them but they wanted almost a grand for one i think. Just marked Colt M4, guess they were an over run that was never built into a gun.


I'd love to see that. I'd probably throw down the cash for one. I've seen the magpul lowers go for 2500, so 1k for a M4 marked lower isn't a stretch.


Well here ya go, took me a few mins but it was bugging me so I had to find them
http://www.knesekguns.com/commercial/product_info.php?products_id=1544
11/13/2010 2:57:02 AM EDT
[#18]
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There's a bunch of M4 lowers out there. I can't remember which company had them but they wanted almost a grand for one i think. Just marked Colt M4, guess they were an over run that was never built into a gun.


I'd love to see that. I'd probably throw down the cash for one. I've seen the magpul lowers go for 2500, so 1k for a M4 marked lower isn't a stretch.


Well here ya go, took me a few mins but it was bugging me so I had to find them
http://www.knesekguns.com/commercial/product_info.php?products_id=1544


I hate it when they deregister lowers like that...I guess if someone really wants a colt lower with "M4" stamped somewhere on it, I guess they dont mind spending that much on it then. Just think, with about an extra $400, you could have a complete 6921. Or if you like burning money, buy the upper separately for another $1000.

I guess it kinda makes me mad because I dont live in a banned state. I guess some firearm dealers find it more beneficial for them to take a rifle that sells for about $1400 and split it up make that MSRP of $1400 turn into $2000.

I would really like a 6921 lower...but I dont want one that has been deregistered, and I will not pay a such a high premium where if I throw in a couple more Benjamins', I get a brand new Colt upper to go along with it.

11/13/2010 8:54:43 AM EDT
[#19]
yea I won't do that either. Seems insane to pay that much for a lower. And I'm a colt fan to boot.
11/13/2010 9:43:21 AM EDT
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yea I won't do that either. Seems insane to pay that much for a lower. And I'm a colt fan to boot.


+1 but it's just because I'm cheap
11/13/2010 11:36:47 AM EDT
[#21]
One sat on in the EE for months before a newbie finally bought it.



http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=158&t=789150
11/13/2010 11:41:20 AM EDT
[#22]
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Colt did mark a few lowers m4le. The 6921(14.5 inch version of the 6920) comes to mind. I want to say they sold some guns with lowers marked m4match or something like that as well.


The Match Target M4 carbines are marked M4 Carbine (and Colt Defense).

11/13/2010 1:08:00 PM EDT
[#23]
Ive got 3 colts and I love them, but a grand for a lower? People should be ashamed for even trying to do that to people. Same with the magpul lowers. I'm sure they're very nice but in no way can that price be justified. Maybe I'm wrong, it's been known to happen before but I can go get an entire all colt rifle for the price these companies are trying to gouge the public for on lowers.

I went and bought one of the mil/le stamped guns just after the aw ban died as I figured it would be sort of a collectors thing. I got raped but oh well. This stuff there's just no excuse for.


Ok I feel better after my little rant there. :)
11/13/2010 3:26:21 PM EDT
[#24]
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Ive got 3 colts and I love them, but a grand for a lower? People should be ashamed for even trying to do that to people. Same with the magpul lowers. I'm sure they're very nice but in no way can that price be justified. Maybe I'm wrong, it's been known to happen before but I can go get an entire all colt rifle for the price these companies are trying to gouge the public for on lowers.

I went and bought one of the mil/le stamped guns just after the aw ban died as I figured it would be sort of a collectors thing. I got raped but oh well. This stuff there's just no excuse for.


Ok I feel better after my little rant there. :)


It's called a free market.
11/13/2010 6:28:33 PM EDT
[#25]
Still kind of pricey but Clyde Armory has the same M4LE complete Colt lower for 795 that Knesek sells for 995.  That gets it down to a little bit more reasonable if you really want a lower marked Colt M4.
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