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3/22/2003 8:47:58 AM EDT
How come most of the M4gerys might as well be called carbines?? I can understand the barrel length, and, of course, the receiver, but a shorter stock should be available. Or is this just a drive to look cool and still have a shoulder fired rifle??
3/22/2003 8:54:09 AM EDT
[#1]
I don't get what you're trying to say.  M4s *are* carbines.  Most pe-ban M4geries have collapsable stocks, just like the majority of the real M4s.  Post-ban rifles can't have coll. stocks and you have to have a stock that is a uable length.  Some people go for fixed car-style stocks for the look, others use regular A1 or A2 stocks which is still authentic because many operators prefer a fixed stock even on a short barreled weapon.  Still other go for some of the newer stocks that are shorter and/or lighter.
3/22/2003 10:48:42 AM EDT
[#2]
Most guys say the M4gery is for CQB, yet they are still swinging a 30" rifle compared to a 34" rifle with a 20" barrel. Not a lot of difference. The legal limit is 26", so why not a shorter stock??
3/22/2003 11:21:52 AM EDT
[#3]
There are shorter stocks such as the RRA CQB stock and the "Sully" stock.  The problem is that for most people these are difficult to shoot from all positions with these than with an A1 length stock.  
3/22/2003 3:53:24 PM EDT
[#4]
The M4gery is light too, so it swings faster than the rifle, plus the flash suppresor on the A2 mean an M4gery is 5 inches shorter. A stock shorter than an A1 is hard to use.
3/22/2003 7:28:15 PM EDT
[#5]
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the M4gery is for CQB, yet they are still swinging a 30" rifle compared to a 34" rifle with a 20" barrel.

The legal limit is 26", so why not a shorter stock??
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I think if you measure your 20" barrel on the rifle you'll find it is much longer than 34" total. Even more if it has a flash hider.

The legal limit for OAL is 26" but there are other considerations. Unless you want to deal with NFA you need 16" of barrel & attachment. The lower receiver adds about 8" more. Now you need room for the buffer & spring which is shorter on the collapsable stock. Which part of this should we do away with to make it shorter?
3/22/2003 7:55:05 PM EDT
[#6]
One of my M4gery's is a 19" barrel, 16" with a 3" segmented FS, and an A2 buttstock, for a  37" total length. Not really a carbine, more like a full size A1/C7 with a carbine gas system.
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