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Posted: 11/6/2015 11:37:18 PM EDT
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There is an FFL in my area who was selling stripped Anderson lowers for 50 bucks OTD. That's a hell of a good price considering online options include a shipping cost and then a transfer fee, so why not right? That was a little over two weeks ago, and at the time I was not even interested in ARs and looking instead to jumping into AKs.
Two weeks later: 10 pmags 10 Brownell mags 10 D&H mags PSA Lower Build Kit MI BCG and charging handle PSA 10.5 Premium Upper ATF eForm 1 and the lower's out for engraving What happened!? Not that it's all bad, I can surely afford all this crap and hey, SBRs are cool, but hell man. Once I start something I sometimes have a hard time stopping, clearly. 
Anyone else suffer from this very obvious character flaw? 
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Nice rifles. Don't ever get started on 1911's, or SIG pistols, or CZ pistols.
My dealer had Andersons for $39 last Christmas. I only bought one because my wife was with me, otherwise I would have come home with a trunk full. We all have the disease and their is no cure. |
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It doesn't get any better...... Congrats 10.5" is the way to go. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/acman145acp/AR%20stuff/100_3036_zpsjuo8tykr.jpg NICE! 
Here's the thing. This all started with people talking about the PSA slick rifle kits that, when paired with and Anderson, can be built for under $400. I figured well alright, at least I'll have an AR if things go south which we seem to always be on the verge of. Then it was why not spend just a little more, get one of their premium uppers with the FN barrel and have a substantially nicer rifle. Which then came the whole I have a trust thing so if I'm gonna spend some money on this why not go SBR? And so on and so on and so on... Can anyone look at what I have and tell me what I should be focusing on while the stamp clears? I need ammo obviously, and I'm happy with 30 mags. I still haven't decided on what sight to go with; I've always had a thing for the profile of the A2 carry handles but with so many good red dots and back up sights it'd almost be a waste of space. Also, if anyone has anything to say about the PSA 10.5 upper that would be great; read up on them and people really seem to like them but you never know? |
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Anyone else suffer from this very obvious character flaw? Yes, 4 years ago I didn't have a single AR. I have now built a dozen plus and currently still own a 16" carbine, .458 Socom, 9" suppressed .300 blackout and 6.5 Creedmore along with more stripped and 80% lowers then I will ever use and 200+ mags. Yeah, it's an addiction. |
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It's cool you're spending on guns and all, but you might want to start sleeping on purchases... just saying. It's easy to get excited about something an overspend hard and fast, then looking back with regret.
Hope you stay interested, but some don't. Building will be a hard way to start too. Issues with parts, placing orders, shipping times, etc; will probably keep you weeks if not over a month to complete it. Plus it's possible to run into issues with builds if you have any out of spec or incompatible parts. Or simply building troubles like aligning up a gas block. Realize it probably won't happen over night and it won't be cheap. Suppose your form 1 will take months regardless though. (IF that stops you from completing and shooting it regardless) |
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It's cool you're spending on guns and all, but you might want to start sleeping on purchases... just saying. It's easy to get excited about something an overspend hard and fast, then looking back with regret. Hope you stay interested, but some don't. Building will be a hard way to start too. Issues with parts, placing orders, shipping times, etc; will probably keep you weeks if not over a month to complete it. Plus it's possible to run into issues with builds if you have any out of spec or incompatible parts. Or simply building troubles like aligning up a gas block. Realize it probably won't happen over night and it won't be cheap. Suppose your form 1 will take months regardless though. (IF that stops you from completing and shooting it regardless) I gotcha. I'm done for the moment, I really just wanted what I would consider a "foundation" for the platform; all the essentials. The nice thing about ARs is there modularity, and as such if there's anything that I really just don't care for I can always sell it to get some of my cash back. Like you said I have a little bit of a wait before I can even finish it. The only thing I might be a little worried about is the lower. I haven't seen a thing to indicate the Anderson offering is sub par in any real meaningful way BUT I'm not an expert by any means and I wonder why they're so cheap. Maybe I should have ponied up a little more cash for another brand? |
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Here's the thing. This all started with people talking about the PSA slick rifle kits that, when paired with and Anderson, can be built for under $400. I figured well alright, at least I'll have an AR if things go south which we seem to always be on the verge of. Then it was why not spend just a little more, get one of their premium uppers with the FN barrel and have a substantially nicer rifle. Which then came the whole I have a trust thing so if I'm gonna spend some money on this why not go SBR? And so on and so on and so on... Can anyone look at what I have and tell me what I should be focusing on while the stamp clears? I need ammo obviously, and I'm happy with 30 mags. I still haven't decided on what sight to go with; I've always had a thing for the profile of the A2 carry handles but with so many good red dots and back up sights it'd almost be a waste of space. Also, if anyone has anything to say about the PSA 10.5 upper that would be great; read up on them and people really seem to like them but you never know? Quoted:
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It doesn't get any better...... Congrats 10.5" is the way to go. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/acman145acp/AR%20stuff/100_3036_zpsjuo8tykr.jpg NICE!
Here's the thing. This all started with people talking about the PSA slick rifle kits that, when paired with and Anderson, can be built for under $400. I figured well alright, at least I'll have an AR if things go south which we seem to always be on the verge of. Then it was why not spend just a little more, get one of their premium uppers with the FN barrel and have a substantially nicer rifle. Which then came the whole I have a trust thing so if I'm gonna spend some money on this why not go SBR? And so on and so on and so on... Can anyone look at what I have and tell me what I should be focusing on while the stamp clears? I need ammo obviously, and I'm happy with 30 mags. I still haven't decided on what sight to go with; I've always had a thing for the profile of the A2 carry handles but with so many good red dots and back up sights it'd almost be a waste of space. Also, if anyone has anything to say about the PSA 10.5 upper that would be great; read up on them and people really seem to like them but you never know? Two of those in that picture are psa/fn chf uppers the other is a LMT. Each of the psa's have almost 3k rnds each on them they shoot everything from monarch steel case / wolf to xm193 to tap and everything in between. Can't make a true recommendation on optics without knowing the type of shooting you plan on but everyone should have a 10.5 with a red dot. |
| Yeah, many folks share that affliction. Last 2 AR'S were SBR'S and I'd make more if the wife didn't want some stupid crap like food, gas, furniture and the like. But with Thanksgiving, Black Friday, Cyber Monday, Christmas and New Years sales right around the corner, one more may sneak in somehow. |
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Quoted: Yes, 4 years ago I didn't have a single AR. I have now built a dozen plus and currently still own a 16" carbine, .458 Socom, 9" suppressed .300 blackout and 6.5 Creedmore along with more stripped and 80% lowers then I will ever use and 200+ mags. Yeah, it's an addiction. Quoted: Quoted: Anyone else suffer from this very obvious character flaw? Yes, 4 years ago I didn't have a single AR. I have now built a dozen plus and currently still own a 16" carbine, .458 Socom, 9" suppressed .300 blackout and 6.5 Creedmore along with more stripped and 80% lowers then I will ever use and 200+ mags. Yeah, it's an addiction.  |
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It's cool you're spending on guns and all, but you might want to start sleeping on purchases... just saying. It's easy to get excited about something an overspend hard and fast, then looking back with regret. Hope you stay interested, but some don't. Building will be a hard way to start too. Issues with parts, placing orders, shipping times, etc; will probably keep you weeks if not over a month to complete it. Plus it's possible to run into issues with builds if you have any out of spec or incompatible parts. Or simply building troubles like aligning up a gas block. Realize it probably won't happen over night and it won't be cheap. Suppose your form 1 will take months regardless though. (IF that stops you from completing and shooting it regardless) Cav, that's just downright crazy talk. Sleep on a purchase?...restraint in accumulating components?...not get exited?...regret? What planet are you from? LOL!...now I'm sure you know I'm just pulling your leg.  There are many good ways to approach the "gun disease" in this environment. However, I look at it...maybe somewhat conveniently for my situation of justification...a little differently. Right now guns are relatively cheap. Ammo is relatively cheap...at least in light of somewhat recent previous events. I contend this is the time to build and buy and retain. It's like the stock market but maybe with a chance at better odds than the market. The U.S. is full of politicians and social engineering whackos who are hellbent on taking away ammo and guns until it's stick-and-rock time again...at least for the common citizen. While they're being held somewhat at bay for the moment, I'll not bet my guns and ammo on that outcome. Plus, disregard the political environment for a second and just consider the economy. Inflation is coming one way or another due to the massive debt and low rates that have sustained it. Everything will cost more. Even with absolutely no gun control efforts, your $500 AR right now could gain much more value than money in the bank. In fact, we'll be lucky if all we get is inflation in a perfect world. A total collapse may be more likely at the rate unbridled debt is growing, and in that case your $500 or $2500 AR will obviously be way more valuable than money...as long as you also paired them up with large amounts of ammo. Yes...this sounds like crazy talk, and I'm sure the folks in 1929 thought the same thing.
And even stepping away from the crazy, negative outlook that some might have for the future, look at it this way. Unless you're a minimum wage worker with a family and on food stamps, everyone has a hobby. A fisherman might have a boat. A golfer might have super expensive clubs and a cart. A car and/or motorcycle guy might have many thousands tied up in his toys. Unless you're in poverty or you want to live like a hermit on a bag of gold, you're going to invest in something that brings you joy. It might as well involve firearms, and I can think of toys...if you want to consider them in that category...that lose thousands in value when they go out the retail door. Guns and ammo will yield more security...pun intended...on all fronts than most non-food and non-shelter necessities. Aside from literally taking the food out of your family's mouth or removing the clothes off their backs, buy guns, gun stuff, and ammo without too much guilt. |
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Two of those in that picture are psa/fn chf uppers the other is a LMT. Each of the psa's have almost 3k rnds each on them they shoot everything from monarch steel case / wolf to xm193 to tap and everything in between. Can't make a true recommendation on optics without knowing the type of shooting you plan on but everyone should have a 10.5 with a red dot. Quoted:
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It doesn't get any better...... Congrats 10.5" is the way to go. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/acman145acp/AR%20stuff/100_3036_zpsjuo8tykr.jpg NICE!
Here's the thing. This all started with people talking about the PSA slick rifle kits that, when paired with and Anderson, can be built for under $400. I figured well alright, at least I'll have an AR if things go south which we seem to always be on the verge of. Then it was why not spend just a little more, get one of their premium uppers with the FN barrel and have a substantially nicer rifle. Which then came the whole I have a trust thing so if I'm gonna spend some money on this why not go SBR? And so on and so on and so on... Can anyone look at what I have and tell me what I should be focusing on while the stamp clears? I need ammo obviously, and I'm happy with 30 mags. I still haven't decided on what sight to go with; I've always had a thing for the profile of the A2 carry handles but with so many good red dots and back up sights it'd almost be a waste of space. Also, if anyone has anything to say about the PSA 10.5 upper that would be great; read up on them and people really seem to like them but you never know? Two of those in that picture are psa/fn chf uppers the other is a LMT. Each of the psa's have almost 3k rnds each on them they shoot everything from monarch steel case / wolf to xm193 to tap and everything in between. Can't make a true recommendation on optics without knowing the type of shooting you plan on but everyone should have a 10.5 with a red dot. Thanks for the info, that's what I wanted to hear. Depending on what kind of sales PSA has this year for BF I might just go ahead and pick up another 10.5; maybe get one with a lo pro gas block. I was thinking about also getting a 16 inch for the time being to shoot until the stamp clears and turn it into a separate rifle later on but I don't know; people have told me that once you go SBR 16's feel unwieldy. Quoted:
Cav, that's just downright crazy talk. Sleep on a purchase?...restraint in accumulating components?...not get exited?...regret? What planet are you from? LOL!...now I'm sure you know I'm just pulling your leg. There are many good ways to approach the "gun disease" in this environment. However, I look at it...maybe somewhat conveniently for my situation of justification...a little differently. Right now guns are relatively cheap. Ammo is relatively cheap...at least in light of somewhat recent previous events. I contend this is the time to build and buy and retain. It's like the stock market but maybe with a chance at better odds than the market. The U.S. is full of politicians and social engineering whackos who are hellbent on taking away ammo and guns until it's stick-and-rock time again...at least for the common citizen. While they're being held somewhat at bay for the moment, I'll not bet my guns and ammo on that outcome. Plus, disregard the political environment for a second and just consider the economy. Inflation is coming one way or another due to the massive debt and low rates that have sustained it. Everything will cost more. Even with absolutely no gun control efforts, your $500 AR right now could gain much more value than money in the bank. In fact, we'll be lucky if all we get is inflation in a perfect world. A total collapse may be more likely at the rate unbridled debt is growing, and in that case your $500 or $2500 AR will obviously be way more valuable than money...as long as you also paired them up with large amounts of ammo. Yes...this sounds like crazy talk, and I'm sure the folks in 1929 thought the same thing.
And even stepping away from the crazy, negative outlook that some might have for the future, look at it this way. Unless you're a minimum wage worker with a family and on food stamps, everyone has a hobby. A fisherman might have a boat. A golfer might have super expensive clubs and a cart. A car and/or motorcycle guy might have many thousands tied up in his toys. Unless you're in poverty or you want to live like a hermit on a bag of gold, you're going to invest in something that brings you joy. It might as well involve firearms, and I can think of toys...if you want to consider them in that category...that lose thousands in value when they go out the retail door. Guns and ammo will yield more security...pun intended...on all fronts than most non-food and non-shelter necessities. Aside from literally taking the food out of your family's mouth or removing the clothes off their backs, buy guns, gun stuff, and ammo without too much guilt. See, that's where I'm at right now. Even if something goes on sale in a couple weeks prices right now are a steal compared to even just a year ago. I was reading about the Midwest Industries BCG before I purchased it, it's now fifty dollars less than last year and it's not on sale either. Paranoia about the uncertain future is a driving force for a lot of us I think, it definitely is for me. And again, even if you don't like something so long as you can afford it in the short term prices are bound to go up again, and resale in the internet age is a piece of cake. |
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... And even stepping away from the crazy, negative outlook that some might have for the future, look at it this way. Unless you're a minimum wage worker with a family and on food stamps, everyone has a hobby. A fisherman might have a boat. A golfer might have super expensive clubs and a cart. A car and/or motorcycle guy might have many thousands tied up in his toys. Unless you're in poverty or you want to live like a hermit on a bag of gold, you're going to invest in something that brings you joy. It might as well involve firearms, and I can think of toys...if you want to consider them in that category...that lose thousands in value when they go out the retail door. Guns and ammo will yield more security...pun intended...on all fronts than most non-food and non-shelter necessities. Aside from literally taking the food out of your family's mouth or removing the clothes off their backs, buy guns, gun stuff, and ammo without too much guilt. Good lord! You're an amazing enabler I like the way you think.
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A year and a half ago I got my first AR. I've got eight of them now.....and still got a hankering.............
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Anyone else suffer from this very obvious character flaw? Yes, 4 years ago I didn't have a single AR. I have now built a dozen plus and currently still own a 16" carbine, .458 Socom, 9" suppressed .300 blackout and 6.5 Creedmore along with more stripped and 80% lowers then I will ever use and 200+ mags. Yeah, it's an addiction.
What he said. I'm at 6 in about a year. Just a couple more and I'll be done.
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You think that's bad? Get into NFA, I'm only 30 minutes away from tar heel states firearms. Yeup, I've always said that NFA is like BRD on steroids. ETA: I've had close to (30) AR's at one pont in various calibers and over time, I've actually consolidated down to what I actually thought would keep me happy for a while. It just got to a point where some rifles would sit for 3+ years without ever leaving the safe so, after I had my "keepers" and now I just rotate them out every so often. I have assembled a couple of uppers since then and those are my work horses for classes and competitions. I guess nothing really excites me and is a must have since I personally feel my AR collection is well rounded. |
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Two of those in that picture are psa/fn chf uppers the other is a LMT. Each of the psa's have almost 3k rnds each on them they shoot everything from monarch steel case / wolf to xm193 to tap and everything in between. Can't make a true recommendation on optics without knowing the type of shooting you plan on but everyone should have a 10.5 with a red dot. Quoted:
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It doesn't get any better...... Congrats 10.5" is the way to go. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/acman145acp/AR%20stuff/100_3036_zpsjuo8tykr.jpg NICE!
Here's the thing. This all started with people talking about the PSA slick rifle kits that, when paired with and Anderson, can be built for under $400. I figured well alright, at least I'll have an AR if things go south which we seem to always be on the verge of. Then it was why not spend just a little more, get one of their premium uppers with the FN barrel and have a substantially nicer rifle. Which then came the whole I have a trust thing so if I'm gonna spend some money on this why not go SBR? And so on and so on and so on... Can anyone look at what I have and tell me what I should be focusing on while the stamp clears? I need ammo obviously, and I'm happy with 30 mags. I still haven't decided on what sight to go with; I've always had a thing for the profile of the A2 carry handles but with so many good red dots and back up sights it'd almost be a waste of space. Also, if anyone has anything to say about the PSA 10.5 upper that would be great; read up on them and people really seem to like them but you never know? Two of those in that picture are psa/fn chf uppers the other is a LMT. Each of the psa's have almost 3k rnds each on them they shoot everything from monarch steel case / wolf to xm193 to tap and everything in between. Can't make a true recommendation on optics without knowing the type of shooting you plan on but everyone should have a 10.5 with a red dot. How about a 10.3" 300BO SBR with RDS? |
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There is an FFL in my area who was selling stripped Anderson lowers for 50 bucks OTD. That's a hell of a good price considering online options include a shipping cost and then a transfer fee, so why not right? That was a little over two weeks ago, and at the time I was not even interested in ARs and looking instead to jumping into AKs. What happened!? Not that it's all bad, I can surely afford all this crap and hey, SBRs are cool, but hell man. Once I start something I sometimes have a hard time stopping, clearly.
Anyone else suffer from this very obvious character flaw? LOL! join us my friend! when i retired i thought i needed a hobby to keep myself busy, so i bought a Savage rifle. wanted to learn more about it so i searched for forums and the next thing i am tearing them apart and rebuilding them with the components i want to use and to my specs. i have at least 12 Savages in the safe now. i read about the Sig Sauers pistols and bought one, within the year i had all the older P-series without the rail, (i don't care for the rails). after having my fun with them and having to pay for medical bills they are all gone but one, my SigPro 2340, a nice gun for the truck. years ago i bought a Colt AR15 target model, months later bought the tools needed to do my first build and copied the a2 carbine. shot great, really liked that gun. in the last 6 months i have been buying parts for more builds, mostly uppers in different calibers. last thing i am slowly gathering parts for is an AR10 build, it will be in the 6.5 creedmoor or maybe 7/08 caliber. this thing we have is called "OCD"!! BUT IT'S FUNNNNN! Bruce |
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It doesn't get any better...... Congrats 10.5" is the way to go. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/acman145acp/AR%20stuff/100_3036_zpsjuo8tykr.jpg NICE!
Here's the thing. This all started with people talking about the PSA slick rifle kits that, when paired with and Anderson, can be built for under $400. I figured well alright, at least I'll have an AR if things go south which we seem to always be on the verge of. Then it was why not spend just a little more, get one of their premium uppers with the FN barrel and have a substantially nicer rifle. Which then came the whole I have a trust thing so if I'm gonna spend some money on this why not go SBR? And so on and so on and so on... Can anyone look at what I have and tell me what I should be focusing on while the stamp clears? I need ammo obviously, and I'm happy with 30 mags. I still haven't decided on what sight to go with; I've always had a thing for the profile of the A2 carry handles but with so many good red dots and back up sights it'd almost be a waste of space. Also, if anyone has anything to say about the PSA 10.5 upper that would be great; read up on them and people really seem to like them but you never know? Two of those in that picture are psa/fn chf uppers the other is a LMT. Each of the psa's have almost 3k rnds each on them they shoot everything from monarch steel case / wolf to xm193 to tap and everything in between. Can't make a true recommendation on optics without knowing the type of shooting you plan on but everyone should have a 10.5 with a red dot. How about a 10.3" 300BO SBR with RDS? If it's suppressed that works. I only know what i've read about them ( i realize that's not always the whole story) but without suppressing it they just don't do anything for me. Not knocking anyone else s choice i've just been vested in 5.56 /223 for 35~years now and it's always worked for me. |
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It doesn't get any better...... Congrats 10.5" is the way to go. http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h54/acman145acp/AR%20stuff/100_3036_zpsjuo8tykr.jpg NICE!
Here's the thing. This all started with people talking about the PSA slick rifle kits that, when paired with and Anderson, can be built for under $400. I figured well alright, at least I'll have an AR if things go south which we seem to always be on the verge of. Then it was why not spend just a little more, get one of their premium uppers with the FN barrel and have a substantially nicer rifle. Which then came the whole I have a trust thing so if I'm gonna spend some money on this why not go SBR? And so on and so on and so on... Can anyone look at what I have and tell me what I should be focusing on while the stamp clears? I need ammo obviously, and I'm happy with 30 mags. I still haven't decided on what sight to go with; I've always had a thing for the profile of the A2 carry handles but with so many good red dots and back up sights it'd almost be a waste of space. Also, if anyone has anything to say about the PSA 10.5 upper that would be great; read up on them and people really seem to like them but you never know? Two of those in that picture are psa/fn chf uppers the other is a LMT. Each of the psa's have almost 3k rnds each on them they shoot everything from monarch steel case / wolf to xm193 to tap and everything in between. Can't make a true recommendation on optics without knowing the type of shooting you plan on but everyone should have a 10.5 with a red dot. Thanks for the info, that's what I wanted to hear. Depending on what kind of sales PSA has this year for BF I might just go ahead and pick up another 10.5; maybe get one with a lo pro gas block. I was thinking about also getting a 16 inch for the time being to shoot until the stamp clears and turn it into a separate rifle later on but I don't know; people have told me that once you go SBR 16's feel unwieldy. Everyone is different. If i had started with SBR's i wouldn't own a 16 gun(and i have a lot )
They would all be 10.5 or 18 If you do go 16 i'd suggest the psa / fn midlength lightweight |
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I've had Enfielditus, Mosinitus, Mauseritus, Garanditus, mild strains of M1 Carbine disease, 1903itus, and small semi-auto pistol disease. Presently fighting, and losing to, a bad case of old S&W revolver disease. |
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I'd say everyone should have a 14.5" to 16" in 5.56, though I wouldn't feel undergunned with a 10.5" either. But 5.56, not 300BO. Price, and most that do have guns in 300BO don't stock much. Gun without ammo doesn't help, and if it's the end of the world and you're expecting a second attack the next day, you might spend all night reloading ammo (if that's your intended method to stay stocked).
Yep, prices are down (sort of). Wish I could say that for the LMT stuff I'm ordering. Demand is down at least, so stuff is in stock. I've been buying with the reasoning that the next shooting will happen any time now (one thing anti-2A people are correct on). That's included around 8k rounds of 5.56. Will be another $1600 to make another LMT MRP/SLK AR. So I'm spending, but this is 'my thing' so most of my money, after rent and taxes, goes to this. First black gun at like age 12 (Cetme Sporter, 2002/3 roughly), and there's been a steady evolution ever since. Everyone seems to evolve in their thinking with this stuff. Go hard and heavy at where you happen to be at in your evolution right now, and regret it later when it has changed. I have plenty of example of guns I still own that don't align with where I'm at right now. Hoping to liquidate some during the next scare, so there's at least a demand, trying to get a fair price for used. |
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Meh I've built a bunch but sold most of them. I'm down to two and honestly don't have the need or want for anymore. The only thing I might potentially do is sell one of my 16" uppers for a 11.5" and a can. I just can't find a reason to have tons of ARs. Private prediction: People start selling off their multitude of AR's in a couple years, especially if somehow Reps take the presidency. Generally to fund buying a much lesser amount of higher quality guns. The whole 'buying twice' thing, en masse. Also selling off some of the less common calibers once the fads are over... |
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