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9/6/2007 1:47:40 PM EDT
Mega Machine or SunDevil lower?

I can only afford one.

Thank you.
9/6/2007 2:28:22 PM EDT
[#1]
I have a lowers made by stag, rock river, noveske and mega.  I can't say anything, good or bad about the Sun Devils, but I can say that out of the lowers I own, the Mega is easily the highest quality based on fit and finish.
9/6/2007 4:10:48 PM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:
Mega Machine or SunDevil lower?

I can only afford one.

Thank you.


You are in the pleasant position of not being able to make a wrong choice. They are both top notch units that will do everything you need.


9/6/2007 4:18:38 PM EDT
[#3]
Go with a Mega. I have both and I have to say the mega is alot higher quality. Both lowers work, but IMHO the sun devil cost to much for the less than stellar machining that it has.

9/6/2007 4:22:24 PM EDT
[#4]

Quoted:

You are in the pleasant position of not being able to make a wrong choice. They are both top notch units that will do everything you need.



I would not rate the sun devil lower as top notch. It's more like mediocre. I would rather get a stag or RRA before I got another sun devil.

9/6/2007 4:28:01 PM EDT
[#5]
Definitely a Mega. Fit and Finish are top notch.

Sun Devil's finish is more prone to scratching. Not Teflon-Coated.
Also the the edge of the trigger area is not rounded off like most lowers. A small but pertinent detail for me.

I use Mega's for all my builds now.
9/6/2007 4:54:10 PM EDT
[#6]
Mega
9/6/2007 5:30:21 PM EDT
[#7]
if I my ask where are you planning on getting a mega from?
9/6/2007 5:37:40 PM EDT
[#8]
Thanks guys.
Decided on Mega, but can't seem to find one. All are out of stock.hat.

Wait?
This is frustrating.
9/6/2007 6:51:22 PM EDT
[#9]
MEGA

Try here

The one looks a little "pink" but it's really a nice rich Desert Tan.



9/6/2007 6:58:00 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
MEGA

Try here

The one looks a little "pink" but it's really a nice rich Desert Tan.

i146.photobucket.com/albums/r272/nevadasun/169-6915_IMG.jpg

I always dig your pictures..Wooot
9/6/2007 9:01:01 PM EDT
[#11]
Yeah. coldwarshooters has them in stock I believe. I do not think they have that many left. They always increase the price when they have a few remaining.

rainierarms.com also carries them. maybe not in stock at this moment.

oh...dont forget to order a "mega" marked upper...real nice. I picked up one with M4 feed cuts.
9/7/2007 4:53:08 AM EDT
[#12]
awesome pair you have there nevadasun..hooters
9/7/2007 4:55:02 AM EDT
[#13]
I don't realistically think there is any reason to spend the extra money on a billet lower. Put the money you saved toward a better trigger or barrel. Mega makes nice stuff if you can find it in stock.
9/7/2007 6:06:37 AM EDT
[#14]
The mega lower that I have is awesome.  I cannot say anything about the sundevil, but the finish on the mega is great.
9/7/2007 7:22:49 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Thanks guys.
Decided on Mega, but can't seem to find one. All are out of stock.

Now what.

Wait?
This is frustrating.


The wait may be a while as it usually is with Mega. Coldwar Shooters had them in stock a couple weeks ago, but they were goin fast at $135 stripped. Rainier Arms is still showing outta stock. Don't know who else stocks them, but in any case they never last long when they are in stock. Good luck. Mega's are well worth it & they are the best lowers I own by far.
9/7/2007 4:28:49 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Go with a Mega. I have both and I have to say the mega is alot higher quality. Both lowers work, but IMHO the sun devil cost to much for the less than stellar machining that it has.



You've got me curious. Please post some pictures of the poor machining on the receiver you have. I have had a chance to examine a lot of Sun Devil lowers and have been uniformly impressed with their quality, impressed enough that I recently bought one.

9/7/2007 9:10:34 PM EDT
[#17]
The answer to this post may only be answered by pictures,... Comence the Pic posting!!!
9/7/2007 9:56:38 PM EDT
[#18]
JCweaponry has a special run of MEGA stripped lowers for sig forum members. I think he has a few left. $135 shipped. Thats where I got mine - this week.
9/8/2007 6:59:47 AM EDT
[#19]
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Quoted:
JCweaponry has a special run of MEGA stripped lowers for sig forum members. I think he has a few left. $135 shipped. Thats where I got mine - this week.


  Thanks
9/8/2007 9:18:11 AM EDT
[#20]
get a Mega, I am here in AZ, got and upper lower combo with butt stock from sun devil and the upper lower fit is garbage on the sun devil. They do not pick up the phone, return calls, or return emails.
9/8/2007 9:59:12 AM EDT
[#21]
I think Jason(JC Weaponry) has several left, he just sent me two more(5 total).
I'm building one each for my wife, my dad, and my sister, with a couple spare for the safe!!
I was able to get serial numbers to match everyones birth years, except for Dad,
(The person that got #21 want to sell it!!??)
Bob
9/8/2007 5:41:20 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Go with a Mega. I have both and I have to say the mega is alot higher quality. Both lowers work, but IMHO the sun devil cost to much for the less than stellar machining that it has.


You've got me curious. Please post some pictures of the poor machining on the receiver you have. I have had a chance to examine a lot of Sun Devil lowers and have been uniformly impressed with their quality, impressed enough that I recently bought one.


You cant see it in pictures. Like I said it still works, it's just not what you should get when you pay $150 for a lower. For example the corners of the mag well are finished with a drill bit instead of being broached. Broaching give a magwell a perfect corner the way it is supposed to be. The width of the receiver is smaller than spec so the firing pins stick out of the sides. If you have a set of KNS pins there is allot of side to side play. Just allot of little things. I would expect that kind of quality from a $80 lower. I have one of the gen 1 versions, but maybe they have improved now that they are on version 472 or whatever it is. I just think that the mega is 100 times better.
9/8/2007 7:00:02 PM EDT
[#23]
Wow!

No offense but how can you tell people to stay away (SunDevil is on Rev III now) from the company after your experiences are with there original product. All first gen items no matter what industry they are in have some type of production flaws in them from being a new product. I have a 3rd gen recent as of June of this year and my machining is beautiful as is the finish. My magwell looks perfect and my trigger/hammer pins do not stick out of the sides using a Del-Ton lower parts kit.

I dont doubt your 1st gen lower may have some issues but dont knock off a product that is on its 3rd revision based on your experiences with an older version.  My 150 has been well spent.
9/8/2007 10:04:41 PM EDT
[#24]
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Quoted:
JCweaponry has a special run of MEGA stripped lowers for sig forum members. I think he has a few left. $135 shipped. Thats where I got mine - this week.



If you don't mind, can you post a picture of this special run Mega. Thanks
9/8/2007 11:02:41 PM EDT
[#25]
I like the Mega finished so I have Mega upper with M4 feed ramp and Mega lower, also have a Mega strip upper without M4 feed ramp as backup

9/9/2007 6:22:57 PM EDT
[#26]
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Quoted:
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JCweaponry has a special run of MEGA stripped lowers for sig forum members. I think he has a few left. $135 shipped. Thats where I got mine - this week.



If you don't mind, can you post a picture of this special run Mega. Thanks


Here ya go.  Note the lack of the MEGA "atomic logo" (compare to pictures on page 1 of the thread), the notation of "JC WEAPONRY" model, and the special SF serial numbers.  I got #76.  I think you can get the stripped upper too from JCWeaponry - not positive though.

Good deal at $135 shipped too.  I hear he has a few left.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/sprscientist/L1.jpg
9/9/2007 7:05:19 PM EDT
[#27]
Thanks sprscientist
9/11/2007 6:30:46 AM EDT
[#28]
Hey, I like my super atomic Mega logo. Think "total devastation".


9/11/2007 10:59:27 AM EDT
[#29]
I agree that the atomic logo is cool (like the pretty horsie), but the fact that it is missing on the SF special run doesn't bother me.  Nice rig there!
9/15/2007 9:34:57 AM EDT
[#30]
Bug22 here is what information I can share with you. I have worked as a Machinist for 22 years so I can speak about quality. Now that  stated I have built four Mega's and one Sundevil. I had a Mega lower with what I would consider a defect that would land it in the scrap bin. To Mega Machine's credit they took care of it straight away no questions asked. I have been very happy with the quality and service from Mega, you won't be disappointed. I have built one Sundevil lower/upper and am very impressed with the quality. The biggest problem in  a billet is blending tool marks from one setup to the next, in my experience it can be a real pain at times. My Sundevil is excellent, I have been unable to find any defects in cosmetics. The anodizing is very nice, the upper lower match perfect. The fit and function of all parts is 100%, ZERO ISSUES. I have had the chance to run about 100 rounds through it now and to say I am pleased is an understatement, it functions flawlessly. You are as has been stated in a very good position as both are excellent products and no matter what you choose you will have a fine rifle. Coldwarshooters is now pricing Mega for equal price as Rainier has Sundevil. Here are a few pics of my Sundevil, keep us posted as to which way you go. Group is ten shots rapid fire at 100 yards.
Pat





9/15/2007 8:03:44 PM EDT
[#31]
When I was at the Crossroads show in Phoenix last weekend, Sun Devil had a table set up. The young guy representing SD was very professional. No bashing whatsoever of other brands. One thing he did say was the SD lowers are 6061 T6 billet and not 7075, both of which are machinable. He had pink, purple, green, maroon, titanium gray (which looked killer with black furnature and a bead blasted stainless barrel), blue and so on. He said the purple was a favorite with the ladies. Us guys on the otherhand have to have EVIL BLACK which is my favorite as well as the titanium gray.

My question which has nothing to do with the above...

Above the rear hand grip in the lower there was a second threaded hole for a set screw that when the set screw was screwed in pressed up against the rear, upper, Take Down Pin block (for lack of a better term) on the upper. It serves the same purpose as an Accuwedge. This set screw was solid steel. I would have used a nylon tipped set screw instead. The SD rep said it was a patended technology. This is their latest greatest revision.

Opinions on the set screw idea ONLY please? No bashing allowed! BTW, their lowers appeared flawless in every way.

Thanks!
9/16/2007 5:04:53 PM EDT
[#32]
If upper and lower are quality, then there should be litle to no play between the two in the first place.  Should you find a lower and upper don't have the best fit in the world, I would be very skeptical about "fixing" the problem with a tensioning set screw that is harder than to two pieces that are being tensioned.

FWIW, I have seen the sun devil lowers with a green nylon tipped set screw instead of an all steel set screw.
9/17/2007 3:15:10 PM EDT
[#33]
Skulpin, the set screw works well, there is really only a small amount of play, but if a guy wants it gone altogether all he needs to do is tighten the screw a quarter turn and there is zero play. Mine is the green tip set screw, I have it adjusted to just allow for disassembly but minimal play.
9/18/2007 7:58:43 AM EDT
[#34]
Finally got my MegaSaberhttp://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee107/ess45/DSC000422.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee107/ess45/DSC000477.jpg

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee107/ess45/DSC00025.jpg

Thank you all

sprscientist and akturbo: thank you for pointing JC Weaponry for the Mega

PatR: what barrel are you using. wish i could shoot as good as you

Wish me luck. This is my first AR and first build.
9/18/2007 5:18:14 PM EDT
[#35]
Looks like you got a sweet rig in the works there, I like the entire setup. I am running a Wilson S/S NM barrel, second one and both have shot the same. Let us see some pics when it is finished and a range report.

Congrats
9/21/2007 7:38:09 PM EDT
[#37]
Go with Mega- you won't be disappointed
9/22/2007 12:00:09 AM EDT
[#38]
They are both very nice lowers.  I haven't seen a MEGA in 6 months so good luck trying to find one though.  
9/22/2007 4:51:49 AM EDT
[#39]

Quoted:
They are both very nice lowers.  I haven't seen a MEGA in 6 months so good luck trying to find one though.  


Based on his update, I think he found one.
9/22/2007 10:48:20 AM EDT
[#40]
Another update:

Yes the lower is Mega.

The MegaSaber

http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee107/ess45/DSC00070.jpg


http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee107/ess45/DSC00069.jpg


I got the CTR kit from Rainier and it's supposed to include an H buffer but the buffer they sent me looks like an standard buffer. The H buffer is supposed to have an "H" on the buffer facing the bolt. But very impressed with their fast shipping. I already Emailed them.
9/22/2007 8:29:08 PM EDT
[#41]
I don't recall seeing the email.  Please send it again to [email protected] as David handles our shipping & returns or you can send it to me at [email protected] and I'll make sure you get a replacement ASAP.  I apologize for the mistake.  
9/22/2007 9:12:19 PM EDT
[#42]
Received an Email from Rainier. His sending me the right buffer and his letting me keep the other buffer. That's customer service.
Thanks Rainier.
9/23/2007 6:50:23 AM EDT
[#43]
I have two MEGA's and don't get me wrong, they are damn near perfect, but the mag well is tight in both of them.
I have a Stag and a factory Colt as well, and all the mags I have fall free in everything except the MEGA's. The fit and finish is like I said, perfect, but like everything else, there is always room for improvement.
Just to keep things in perspective, I would buy more MEGA's in a heartbeat........
9/23/2007 6:51:49 AM EDT
[#44]
I have two MEGA's and don't get me wrong, they are damn near perfect, but the mag well is tight in both of them.
I have a Stag and a factory Colt as well, and all the mags I have fall free in everything except the MEGA's. The fit and finish is like I said, perfect, but like everything else, there is always room for improvement.
Just to keep things in perspective, I would buy more MEGA's in a heartbeat........
9/23/2007 8:02:24 AM EDT
[#45]
Yeah, the C mag would fall free but Magpul would not.
9/28/2007 10:16:56 AM EDT
[#46]
Received the H buffer from Rainier. Thanks Rainier. All i need now is a good optic.
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