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1/24/2012 5:33:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Finslayer83][Edited]
Do I need to do anything different to run a mid length upper with an A2 (rifle buffer / buffer tube) lower?

Or slap on and go?

I'm wanting to replace my carbine extension with a rifle one and run an A1 / C1 stock.

Just needing to know if I need different buffer weight
Ain't no changes in the weather, ain't no changes in me -J.J. Cale

"Any pirate stabbing is a good pirate stabbing" - USMC6177
1/24/2012 5:36:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: a308garand][Edited] [#1]

Slap and go.

It will run fine.
"Your times is over! You are gonna die bloody; all you can do is pick where!"
~Sheriff to Butch and Sundance
1/24/2012 5:36:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: a308garand][Edited] [#2]

Slap and go.

Slapped twice, darn it enter button!
"Your times is over! You are gonna die bloody; all you can do is pick where!"
~Sheriff to Butch and Sundance
1/24/2012 5:51:45 PM EDT
[#3]
Good to go with the military rifle set-up, whether A1 or A2 stock doesn't matter. I just returned from shooting my 16" CMMG middy 1:7 medium-contour with M16A1 stock, buffer and spring. This set-up is exceptionally sweet and has not had any kind of failure at all (only about 300 rounds so far) and as of today is shooting into a 2" ball at 50 yards with a 4x scope.

1/24/2012 5:56:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Finslayer83][Edited] [#4]
Originally Posted By 1saxman:
Good to go with the military rifle set-up, whether A1 or A2 stock doesn't matter. I just returned from shooting my 16" CMMG middy 1:7 medium-contour with M16A1 stock, buffer and spring. This set-up is exceptionally sweet and has not had any kind of failure at all (only about 300 rounds so far) and as of today is shooting into a 2" ball at 50 yards with a 4x scope.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb27/INLAND44/Guns/sightpic.jpg


More pics!

I just ordered an Aero lower as well.

ETA: what rear sling attachment setup is that?
Ain't no changes in the weather, ain't no changes in me -J.J. Cale

"Any pirate stabbing is a good pirate stabbing" - USMC6177
1/24/2012 6:32:11 PM EDT
[#5]
Aero lowers are fine. The sling attachment is the standard type for a 'patrol' sling on a full-stock rifle. It's included with the sling. When looking for a sling, you have to keep in mind what you have. I like the A1 stock because its a little shorter and fits me better, and it looks better with the 16" barrel. Sarco had a lot of these unissued stocks at one time for $65, with the military tube, buffer and spring. I have the stock cleaning kit in mine. Makes it heavier but also balances the heavier barrel some. I call this one my 'mini-rifle'.
1/24/2012 9:38:44 PM EDT
[#6]
no issues
1/24/2012 11:02:49 PM EDT
[#7]
My first AR was a RRA A2 middy. damn it ran smooth. i miss it. damn boating accidents....
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1/24/2012 11:29:10 PM EDT
[#8]


Good to go.
1/25/2012 12:01:25 AM EDT
[#9]


Nice!!
Ain't no changes in the weather, ain't no changes in me -J.J. Cale

"Any pirate stabbing is a good pirate stabbing" - USMC6177
1/25/2012 1:26:05 AM EDT
[#10]
I ran this one for years and it ate all ammo...

If you are in the Huntington, WV area check out Herd Tactical. www.herdtactical.com 304-302-0509
1/25/2012 1:52:11 AM EDT
[#11]
Mine like 62 gr. Wolf
1/25/2012 8:40:29 AM EDT
[#12]
I like this thread.
Ain't no changes in the weather, ain't no changes in me -J.J. Cale

"Any pirate stabbing is a good pirate stabbing" - USMC6177
1/25/2012 9:17:23 AM EDT
[#13]
I don't know which attachment he is running but Specter Gear makes a similar product. I have one and it's good stuff.
FREEDOM: other people doing what you don’t like.
1/25/2012 10:20:24 AM EDT
[#14]
Let's see some more pics.

This is becoming my favorite AR setup.
Ain't no changes in the weather, ain't no changes in me -J.J. Cale

"Any pirate stabbing is a good pirate stabbing" - USMC6177
1/25/2012 10:33:03 AM EDT
[#15]
It is fine. I have used an AR midlength on an A1 buttstock for years.

My latest rifle is a midlength on a RR entry stock.  Have not yet shot it though...



With Glock 17 for scale.
1/26/2012 10:56:08 AM EDT
[#16]
I edited the title to make this also a pic / any issues thread.

let's see some more pics
Ain't no changes in the weather, ain't no changes in me -J.J. Cale

"Any pirate stabbing is a good pirate stabbing" - USMC6177
1/26/2012 11:30:10 AM EDT
[#17]
Sorry I've got no pics because back in 2005 my Colt 6721 upper build which I replaced the factory heavy barrel with a Operator midlength barrel which I temporarily tried it on my Colt Match Target HBAR lower with fixed A2 stock.

My 6721 lower was not completed yet at that time so I slapped my just built midlength upper on my A2 rifle lower just to try out my midlength upper.

It worked fine and I'm not surprised because I used to have a factory built Colt Sporter Lightweight carbine 6530 with a carbine gas system upper on a fixed A2 rifle stock back during the ban years and had no FTF problems at all using different kind of military surplus ammo.


YMMV

AR3
1/26/2012 11:32:19 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SickMAK90][Edited] [#18]

By sickmak90 at 2011-09-20

I dubbed it mini-A2.

I have since sold it to my father who installed MOE handguards and a MOE stock. I will admit, it looked nice in the A2 setup, but was very uncomfortable to me. I only had it because I had the lower back in the ban days and it was a cheap and easy stock to use.
If you are in the Huntington, WV area check out Herd Tactical. www.herdtactical.com 304-302-0509
1/26/2012 11:34:14 AM EDT
[#19]

Here's a pic of a varmint build I did a while back. It is a 16" mid length gas with an A2, no issues what so ever.
Specs are
Aero lower
PSA LPK
DIY trigger using JP 4.5 FCG spring kit, bobbed and polished the hammer and trigger engagement areas. Yields about 5.8 to 6lbs on a RCBS trigger scale.
A2 stock
Used barrel marked DTI 1-9  ( assuming Del-Ton ) 16 mid
Stag / CMT BCG ( AR15 carrier not FA )
No forward asst ( Schuster plug ) and no ejection port cover.
Primary Arms scope mount
Simmons White tail classic

1/26/2012 12:27:15 PM EDT
[#20]
I agree with what was posted above - this is definitely one of the best looking setups in my opinion. The A1 stock just looks completely *right* with a middy 16. I may have to get one some day.
1/26/2012 12:55:54 PM EDT
[#21]
Really debating which direction I want to go for optics. I kind of want a 1-4, but I don't know how that would look with the FSB. There's always the ACOG, but that obviously costs a good bit... we'll see.




1/26/2012 12:59:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Landric][Edited] [#22]
PSA mid-length Dissipator w/ A2 stock/rifle buffer.  Runs great!

-PSA Complete Mid-Length Dissipator Upper
-PSA Pictogram Lower
-PSA LPK
-Magpul Grip, Handguard, Magazine
-A2 stock for the EE
-Nikon M-223 1-4x w/ Bobro Mount
-MI Low Profile Rear BUIS
-Blackhawk Sling



"The Engine could still smile...it seemed to scare them." -Felix
1/26/2012 1:30:33 PM EDT
[#23]
Originally Posted By jmccoy:
Really debating which direction I want to go for optics. I kind of want a 1-4, but I don't know how that would look with the FSB. There's always the ACOG, but that obviously costs a good bit... we'll see.


I was looking at the Primary Arms compact 3x.

might be a solid option
Ain't no changes in the weather, ain't no changes in me -J.J. Cale

"Any pirate stabbing is a good pirate stabbing" - USMC6177
1/26/2012 2:07:28 PM EDT
[#24]
1/26/2012 2:40:22 PM EDT
[#25]


Man, that looks CLASSIC!
1/26/2012 3:34:26 PM EDT
[#26]
Originally Posted By 1saxman:


Man, that looks CLASSIC!


slick side A1 upper middy, pure beauty
Ain't no changes in the weather, ain't no changes in me -J.J. Cale

"Any pirate stabbing is a good pirate stabbing" - USMC6177
1/26/2012 5:03:04 PM EDT
[#27]
Originally Posted By jmccoy:
Really debating which direction I want to go for optics. I kind of want a 1-4, but I don't know how that would look with the FSB. There's always the ACOG, but that obviously costs a good bit... we'll see.


At 4x you can't see it, a 3x there is a slight shadow, below 3x it is visible, but not distracting once you get used to it.  At 1x it is almost like looking through an Aimpoint (at least with the M-223 on my rifle), though obviously you cannot co-witness.

I am thinking about getting one of the new Nikon P-223 3x scopes for my Dissipator and moving the 1-4x to something else.
"The Engine could still smile...it seemed to scare them." -Felix
1/27/2012 12:13:51 PM EDT
[#28]
to the top for those who don't click to page 3

Ain't no changes in the weather, ain't no changes in me -J.J. Cale

"Any pirate stabbing is a good pirate stabbing" - USMC6177
1/27/2012 12:47:04 PM EDT
[#29]
Cell pic is all I have handy.

1/27/2012 3:21:53 PM EDT
[#30]


First attempt at posting a photo - hope it works!

PSA stripped lower
PSA MOE LPK
Geissele S2S
Cav Arms C1 stock (A1 lenghth)
Lilja Nordic 16" SS mid-lenghth 1/8 Wylde
Troy 10" MRF
Troy BUIS
DD BCG
DD clamp on low profile gas block

Still breaking her in, but so far runs great!
1/27/2012 3:24:50 PM EDT
[#31]
Originally Posted By Qxdash8:
http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t509/Qxdash8/5072753f.jpg

First attempt at posting a photo - hope it works!

PSA stripped lower
PSA MOE LPK
Geissele S2S
Cav Arms C1 stock (A1 lenghth)
Lilja Nordic 16" SS mid-lenghth 1/8 Wylde
Troy 10" MRF
Troy BUIS
DD BCG
DD clamp on low profile gas block

Still breaking her in, but so far runs great!


sweet rifle!
Ain't no changes in the weather, ain't no changes in me -J.J. Cale

"Any pirate stabbing is a good pirate stabbing" - USMC6177
1/27/2012 3:35:54 PM EDT
[#32]


A few of my collection.  The AR is a midlength CMMG upper on a Cavarms lower.
In memory of our God, our religion, and freedom, and our peace, our wives, and our children

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72 B.C.
1/27/2012 3:59:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cbr][Edited] [#33]
1/28/2012 10:40:12 AM EDT
[Last Edit: airgunner][Edited] [#34]
I thought we just did this recently? Oh well...

Here's the first one I did, mostly all RRA with an A2 upper and CA C1 stock....


Here's my sons, SDI upper, RRA lower with Colt CS stock, Acog and Troy BUIS...
On going to war over religion: "You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend." - Richard Jeni
1/28/2012 6:19:05 PM EDT
[#35]
Ran mine today for the first time with the new stock and it was smoooooth. I like this combo a lot.
1/28/2012 8:14:02 PM EDT
[#36]
Originally Posted By jmccoy:
Ran mine today for the first time with the new stock and it was smoooooth. I like this combo a lot.


nice!
Ain't no changes in the weather, ain't no changes in me -J.J. Cale

"Any pirate stabbing is a good pirate stabbing" - USMC6177
1/28/2012 8:25:03 PM EDT
[#37]


1/28/2012 9:07:50 PM EDT
[#38]




Not only have I not had problems, I believe this is the sweet spot for running a suppressor on a 16" gun. I have tried a few variations and this set up requires absolutely no further modification to keep the gas from blasting into my snoot via the charging handle slot.


1/29/2012 6:15:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: hotdog250j][Edited] [#39]
1/29/2012 12:33:35 PM EDT
[#40]


+1
very cool build
Ain't no changes in the weather, ain't no changes in me -J.J. Cale

"Any pirate stabbing is a good pirate stabbing" - USMC6177
1/29/2012 10:56:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: fatkid35][Edited] [#41]
awesome combo. glad i built one.go for it.just modded my extra a2 stock to a1 length. like it better.
2/4/2012 12:03:30 PM EDT
[#42]
Saturday morning bump to the top.

Best looking AR setup IMO.

Who threw that stone....come on, who threw that stone.
2/4/2012 2:38:36 PM EDT
[#43]
Originally Posted By fatkid35:
awesome combo. glad i built one.go for it.just modded my extra a2 stock to a1 length. like it better.
http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae296/fatkid35/mid004.jpg


How did you mod your extra A2 stock to A1 length?
Any diffuculty?
Any downside?
2/4/2012 9:32:58 PM EDT
[#44]
Originally Posted By CATARGADELENDAEST:
Originally Posted By fatkid35:
awesome combo. glad i built one.go for it.just modded my extra a2 stock to a1 length. like it better.
http://i981.photobucket.com/albums/ae296/fatkid35/mid004.jpg


How did you mod your extra A2 stock to A1 length?
Any diffuculty?
Any downside?


+1 for info
Who threw that stone....come on, who threw that stone.
2/4/2012 10:44:05 PM EDT
[#45]
billet 458 socom

2/6/2012 6:54:11 PM EDT
[#46]
When the next commission check rolls in this month, I've planned my build.

Here are the concepts

Build stage 1:
- SAA lower
- PSA LW mid length upper
- TG Battle grip
- DD 1.5
- MOE mid length HG
- A1 or CavArms stock


Who threw that stone....come on, who threw that stone.
2/6/2012 8:05:21 PM EDT
[#47]
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:
When the next commission check rolls in this month, I've planned my build.

Here are the concepts

Build stage 1:
- SAA lower
- PSA LW mid length upper
- TG Battle grip
- DD 1.5
- MOE mid length HG
- A1 or CavArms stock

<a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/buildbase1.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7966/buildbase1.jpg</a>


Jealous.

Post pics when it's done!

2/6/2012 8:11:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Winn][Edited] [#48]
Originally Posted By attworth:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:

When the next commission check rolls in this month, I've planned my build.

Here are the concepts

Build stage 1:

- SAA lower
- PSA LW mid length upper
- TG Battle grip
- DD 1.5
- MOE mid length HG
- A1 or CavArms stock

<a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/buildbase1.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7966/buildbase1.jpg</a>



Jealous.

Post pics when it's done!



Definitely ...

18.0, 15.50, 13.0 ...

Poznai Sebia - Know Yourself.
2/6/2012 8:17:30 PM EDT
[#49]
Couple pics of my 16" midlength with fixed Ace stock...



2/7/2012 8:50:30 AM EDT
[#50]
Originally Posted By Winn:
Originally Posted By attworth:
Originally Posted By Finslayer83:

When the next commission check rolls in this month, I've planned my build.

Here are the concepts

Build stage 1:

- SAA lower
- PSA LW mid length upper
- TG Battle grip
- DD 1.5
- MOE mid length HG
- A1 or CavArms stock

<a href="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/38/buildbase1.jpg/" target="_blank">http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7966/buildbase1.jpg</a>



Jealous.

Post pics when it's done!



Definitely ...



DD 1.5 and cavarms (Fulton armory upgrade) ordered...
It has begun
Who threw that stone....come on, who threw that stone.
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